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[edit] MTV2
Is Invader Zim still shown on that channel? On the Sic'emation page it says that all Nick shows are no longer being aired. Since I don't have the channel I can't really verify it, so if anyone knows for sure, make sure to remove that from the article. RyGuy17 16:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Archive
I archived it. It was getting too long.--SUIT 23:33, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] german name
I just removed the "(Eroberer Zim)" thing from the name list, because it is called "Invader Zim" in Germany. Adding "(Eroberer Zim)" to that name gives the false impression that this might be some sort of subtitle. It is not. 130.83.73.250 15:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bloody GIR
I'm not putting it here asking about it, I'm just putting some info. The Bloody Gir in BBRP is RIGHT in the middle of the screen when it goes totally white. You can see his whole body.
[edit] G for Garbage
I've absolutely no idea what Invader Zim is, but going through the page's history I saw quite a few insertions about G in GIR standing for garbage. If it's not true, then please subst {{needsource}} or {{vw}} on the users' talk page. Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 18:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- In the episode that introduces the GIR character, Zim asks why GIR's name starts with a G and the Tallest shrugs, so it is pretty specific in the series canon that the characters don't know. Whether the show's staff had an inside joke or not hasn't been attested yet. They don't mention it in the DVD commentary I've seen. --Fire Star 火星 21:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- I've never seen a source that says specifically that it stands for "Garbage" either so I suggest any edits which insert this information should immediately be reverted unless it has a reliable source. BillPP (Talk) 22:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- The Tallest shrugs and GIR itself just says "I don't know." There's also no mention of a full name on the commentary track. Unless there's some creator interview or leaked script I'm not aware of, the "G" stands for nothing in particular, other than the first letter of a kinda-funny name. ShaleZero 03:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- This is getting pretty rediculous. The reason you've never seen a source that specifically says the G in Gir stands for "garbage" is because one doesn't exist. Why? Because Johnen's laughing at you. The fact that he made it so obvious yet there's still debate over it is pretty ludicrous. Yes. It's never been stated officially. Hell, it was never stated officially that the US and Russia were at war. That doesn't change the fact that they were, even if they decided to word things just so to appear to be a country that's amidst a war without actually being "At war". The bottom line is this. In the show, Gir was put together last minute to address the issue of not having a robot for Zim. Since all of the other invaders were being given "SIR" units, Zim expected one. However, the tallest did not expect to even see Zim nonetheless be sending him on a mission, so while the mission was made up in an endeavor to rid them of the nuisance known to them as Zim, they still had to play it straight lest Zim become suspicious. So they made a new unit out of the body of a Sir unit (that apparently had just enough of it's innards in tact and working that all it needed was a brain) and a handful of... you guessed it... GARBAGE!!! So, you may ask why no one as explicitly stated if it stands for garbage. One doesn't have to be told what SNAFU stands for to know what a SNAFU is, no? So Johnen instead decided to portray it completely comedically offering several punch lines instead of just answering the question. Odd behavior for a guy who is trying to write a COMEDY. So when Zim asks what the G stands for and Gir responds with "I don't know", it's just a punch line. You wanna take a little more serious than that then fine. One can assume Gir either properly doesn't know, knew but forgot, or doesn't even care what the question was in the first place (as he often finds himself talking for no paticular reason other than to be heard, holding his own discussions about irrelevant topics even amidst life threatening disasters). As for the response from the All-Mighty Talest... the shrug makes perfect sense, and DOES serve to lay creedence to the notion that G stands for "Garbage". After all, if you sent a man on a presumably dangerous mission with nothing to assist him but garbage, would you want to be the one to break the news to him? Zim thought his Gir unit was BETTER than a Sir unit. Gir said I don't know. The shug? That's basically the tallest saying "If he doesn't know, I'm not going to be the one to tell him". Not the "I don't know" that everyone seems to THINK it is.Smokachu (talk • contribs)5:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- Or it could stand for nothing, the first letter is a coincidence, and you're reading WAY too much into an animated shrug of the shoulders. Without a source, it's not encyclopedic. And it's still a joke if GIR's crazy and made up its own name without not knowing what it means. ShaleZero 16:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- This is getting pretty rediculous. The reason you've never seen a source that specifically says the G in Gir stands for "garbage" is because one doesn't exist. Why? Because Johnen's laughing at you. The fact that he made it so obvious yet there's still debate over it is pretty ludicrous. Yes. It's never been stated officially. Hell, it was never stated officially that the US and Russia were at war. That doesn't change the fact that they were, even if they decided to word things just so to appear to be a country that's amidst a war without actually being "At war". The bottom line is this. In the show, Gir was put together last minute to address the issue of not having a robot for Zim. Since all of the other invaders were being given "SIR" units, Zim expected one. However, the tallest did not expect to even see Zim nonetheless be sending him on a mission, so while the mission was made up in an endeavor to rid them of the nuisance known to them as Zim, they still had to play it straight lest Zim become suspicious. So they made a new unit out of the body of a Sir unit (that apparently had just enough of it's innards in tact and working that all it needed was a brain) and a handful of... you guessed it... GARBAGE!!! So, you may ask why no one as explicitly stated if it stands for garbage. One doesn't have to be told what SNAFU stands for to know what a SNAFU is, no? So Johnen instead decided to portray it completely comedically offering several punch lines instead of just answering the question. Odd behavior for a guy who is trying to write a COMEDY. So when Zim asks what the G stands for and Gir responds with "I don't know", it's just a punch line. You wanna take a little more serious than that then fine. One can assume Gir either properly doesn't know, knew but forgot, or doesn't even care what the question was in the first place (as he often finds himself talking for no paticular reason other than to be heard, holding his own discussions about irrelevant topics even amidst life threatening disasters). As for the response from the All-Mighty Talest... the shrug makes perfect sense, and DOES serve to lay creedence to the notion that G stands for "Garbage". After all, if you sent a man on a presumably dangerous mission with nothing to assist him but garbage, would you want to be the one to break the news to him? Zim thought his Gir unit was BETTER than a Sir unit. Gir said I don't know. The shug? That's basically the tallest saying "If he doesn't know, I'm not going to be the one to tell him". Not the "I don't know" that everyone seems to THINK it is.Smokachu (talk • contribs)5:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- The Tallest shrugs and GIR itself just says "I don't know." There's also no mention of a full name on the commentary track. Unless there's some creator interview or leaked script I'm not aware of, the "G" stands for nothing in particular, other than the first letter of a kinda-funny name. ShaleZero 03:47, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- I've never seen a source that says specifically that it stands for "Garbage" either so I suggest any edits which insert this information should immediately be reverted unless it has a reliable source. BillPP (Talk) 22:14, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
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- People refer to RSJs as Reinforced Steel Joists because obviously they are reinforced, the fact is that's an incorrect term (it's Rolled Steel Joist) even though it appears to be correct. My point is that just because you've made a link and it seems like it fits, it's still going to need a source because it could easily be wrong. --BillPP (talk) 16:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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- It would be nice to add in the little joke that grrr is a common description of the sound a dog makes when growling and that GIR often wears a dog suit disguise, but that is too close to original research on our part, IMO...--Fire Star 火星 16:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I don't think anyone mentioned this or if they did I'm sorry. Are you implying that the G is for garbage because that is what was put into Gir at the time he was created? I think I remember the Tallest reaching behind him or something, grabbing some trash and putting it in Girs head. Or more likely he wanted to stick with the wierd little 3 letter names and Gir is just a cool name. (-Kid. 16:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC))
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- If the G in GIR stood for garbage, GIR's technical name would be "Garbage Information Retrieval". Another possibility is that GIR's name is a pun. His earthly disguise is a dog.
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Wait, somebody already put something about this. Sorry. Pengwiin 12:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject Invader Zim
I've created a WikiProject page for Invader Zim to help us all coordinate what we can do to the articles. I've put a few tasks that I've been doing lately but need to be finished across all the articles. See the project page if you want to join or have anything to say about it. --BillPP (talk) 06:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The show takes place in the future, not an alternate reality
I want to see a source stating otherwise, because the evidence in the show indicates it takes place in the future. Specifically, there is one proof: in the Tak episode, when they're handing out slabs of meat for Valentine's Day, Dib says something like, "I read that long ago, people used to pass out candy and flowers." That implies we're dealing with a future Earth. CGameProgrammer 07:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Or it could be the future of an alternate reality :D Zazaban 22:31, 7 April 2007 (UTC)