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If you see me around too much, scold me and tell me to get back to work. :) If you're looking for new tools to be created, there are a number of toolserver developers currently active. If you want one of my tools to be tweaked, I'm fine with another toolserver developer making reasonable changes to any of my tools (all of my source code is easily accessible, and they can either make their own copy, or ask me to copy their changes to my script). --Interiot 22:50, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] edit counter tool

Thanks for the realtime edit counter tool. I like it so much that I created this userbox to reference it on my userbox page. Maybe others would like to use it.

edits click here and type gbeeker in the username box - credit to Interiot.

-- Gbeeker 05:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Improvement suggestion

Thank you for the useful tool. Do you think it could display, beside the raw number of edits, also the number of DISTINCT pages edited, to help deal with newbies' etc. repeated saving of the same article within minutes? Obviously it is already partly contained in the "contribution tree", but one still has to count the lines (semi)manually.

Thanks a lot, --Malyctenar 10:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

P. S. I would also appreciate putting some of the parameters into the page's TITLE, but I can do without that.

[edit] Work

You've made 21 edits since posting that notice! (/me scolds Interiot) I'm sorry to see that you won't be around much for a while. Your contributions to the toolserver have been invaluable! And now I have no one to go to to inquire about the toolserver status - well, except IRC. Good luck on your project! --M@thwiz2020 20:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is the edit counter working again?

Is your edit counter working again? I noticed that on your (April 2006 archive) page that DaBpunkt got replication working again, and you say that there is a bug in the replication. However, for my edits, the same number is displayed in your edit counter as is displayed in Kate's/river's edit counter. — Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 22:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Both run in the same data, so if one is busted, the other one is too. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
And no, it is not correct, as Flcelloguy's Tool (which runs on live Wikipedia data) says you have 1363 total edits. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:26, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles created by

I would LOVE a run of your "Articles created by X" for me. I've been wondering for a while just how many articles I've made. I wonder how many I'm still the only contributor on. :) --Golbez 06:14, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem, it should be here in a couple minutes. --Interiot 09:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much. :) How long will it be there? --Golbez 02:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
No problem. I can remove it on request, otherwise it'll be there... for a while. The toolserver has a lot of disk space, and the reports aren't very large. --Interiot 03:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
I've been looking for such a tool some time now. Would it be possible to run it for me, Jon Harald Søby@nowiki? (Oh, and again I must compliment you for your extremely good edit counter. It's been there for a few months now, and I'm still amazed by it!) Jon Harald Søby 10:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Should be here soon (cross your fingers, you're the first non-ASCII username I've tested this with (this is the only script I really specify non-ASCII information via the command-line with)). --Interiot 10:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Fantastic, man! Thanks a lot! Jon Harald Søby 19:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd also like a list of articles created by me. Thanks! jareha (comments) 09:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Should be here soonish. --Interiot 10:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again! jareha (comments) 11:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Please, can you make me a list of articles created by me (Emx) on Bosnian Wiki? Is that doable? --Emx 18:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem, here you go. --Interiot 03:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Can you please generate the list of articles created by me (ಮನ) on Kannada Wiki? Thanks - KNM Talk - Contribs 01:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Yup, should be here soon. --Interiot 01:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! If you have a facility of updating it once in 10 days or 15 days, please do so. Thanks. - KNM Talk - Contribs 08:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll have a facility so people can update their own reports within a week or two. Keep an eye for that here. --Interiot 08:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Excellent! Thank you so much!! - KNM Talk - Contribs 08:30, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Can you please refresh this page with latest data? Thanks. - KNM Talk - Contribs 17:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Done. --Interiot 17:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Can you make a list of articles created by me (Germo) in the Spanish Wikipedia?. --Germo (talk) 14:00, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Sure thing, should be here in a few minutes. --Interiot 20:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Please, can you make me a list of articles created by me (F. Cosoleto) in Italian Wikipedia? And, did you think for editcount tool to print separate minor and major edit counts? Maybe useful... --F. Cosoleto 14:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Should be here soon. For major/minor edits, I may add that soon, yes. --Interiot 15:12, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Please, can you make me a list of articles created by me (Gebruiker:Kristof vt) nl.wikipedia thanks. ~~

Sure, it'll be here soon. --Interiot 22:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Hallo Interiot, I would really like to know how many articles I created on it.wiki. I know it's probably boring but if you have time/nothing better to do I would be grateful for the list... Many many thanks :-) Ciao --Civvi 22:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


I would also greatly appreciate one. Thank you. CynicalMe 18:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

The toolserver doesn't have enwiki data available right now, I'll do this once it's back up and working. --Interiot 18:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit counter

Why is the edit counter no longer updating from the English wikipedia?

Jean-Paul 13:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Toolserver currently has a replication lag for enwiki of about two days and some change. It's the database that's lagged, not Interiot's edit counter. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 04:23, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tool Request

I was wondering if you could consider making a tool that could show the edits of an IP range. It would certainly help with dynamic IP vandalism, and in targeting range blocks. Let me know if this is feasible, and if you are interested. I don't know if this should be tied to the database replication, as it would need to be as close to real time as possible, but you're the programmer. Happy editing! Prodego talk 01:36, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm interested in some anti-vandalism tools, yeah, though I'm going to be busy until September. Also, I'm not sure how else it could work other than the replication... it could scrape things via HTTP/HTML, but the devs really look down on that, and it's really bloody slow. --Interiot 01:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request to help us with vandalism statistics

There is currently a thread on the village pump started by my estimate that 82-92% of vandalism is from anon users, (see user:Cool3/Analysis if you'd like to know more about that figure). However, my study has several problems. So, it has been suggested that perhaps with your help we could better gauge vandalism. Do you think you could write a tool to go through edit summaries and find vandalism reverts then see what percentage of these reverts reverted an IP as opposed to a logged-in user? Thanks a bunch. Cool3 19:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I probably don't have time to work on wikipedia development until September. Also, if the analysis ends up needing to diff wikitext contents, then the toolserver wouldn't be of help, since it doesn't have access to the wikitext of pages. --Interiot 20:11, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thought you should know...

...about the change (speaking of which, the editcounter does not seem to have noticed it). Cheers! BD2412 T 05:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tool 2

I have several problems, but I think the main one is that if I go to here:

I just get the source code. I have tried Safari and Firefox on Max OS X. Here is my monobook.js. I haven't used monobook.js before, but your Tool 1 worked fine. Stephen B Streater 12:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Try taking the "if" part off... I'm... not sure it would hurt, but I'm not sure it'll help either. --Interiot 18:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
That's how I started off - same result. Perhaps you have not set the MIME type of the file correctly. This affects our mobile phone downloads anyway. Or I could have this completely wrong. Stephen B Streater 19:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I borrowed the link from the userbox above and it works on my PC at work: User:Interiot/Tool2/code.js Stephen B Streater 17:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
This one also works on my Mac at home. Stephen B Streater 19:05, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
But not my phone - this says it doesn't work on IE - despite actually running on Opera. Stephen B Streater 17:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I've found that it won't work on an iBook G3 running Mac OS 10.2 and Safari, but will work on a G4 hunting Tigers on Safari. :) (This is off topic to this header, but could run an articles created by x thing for me as well?)—WAvegetarian•(talk) 21:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Yup, it should show up here sooner or later. --Interiot 21:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks —WAvegetarian•(talk) 22:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Undead

When you got some time, would you be so kind to update http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/reports/output/undead.txt ? -- User:Docu

No problem, it should be updating. --Interiot 18:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. It didn't quite give the results I expected (articles with year of birth, but no year of death or "living people" category). Well, maybe there are just no articles left. -- User:Docu
Looks like... the program aborted before finishing. Somebody should fix that... --Interiot 08:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok. In the past gmaxwell ran a similar query on a hourly basis. It listed easily 100 new entries per day. As it has been about 2 months since, there could be a backlog of 6000 entries. -- User:Docu

[edit] new wiki

Hi Interiot, the developers recently created a new wiki, called "Wikipedia incubator". It is intended for test-Wikipedias: provisory Wikipedias in languages that have no domain of their own yet. They were conceived in early 2005 and were formerly located on meta-wiki. The domain is http://incubator.wikimedia.org/. It would be very useful if you upgraded your edit counting tool with this new wiki, especially since all of the edits on these test wikis have been transferred to it and with the deletion of the test-wikis on meta they will perish. Thanks in advance, Steinbach (fka Caesarion) 16:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC).

Do you know what its database name normally is? (eg. "inwiki"?) I'm not sure whether it's being replicated over to the toolserver... (I can look into this a little bit, but usually the people on #wikimedia-toolserver are the ones who handle the back-end stuff like updating the list of available wikis on the toolserver, and/or replicating new ones if needed) --Interiot 18:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
The database name is incubatorwiki. Jon Harald Søby 19:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Looks like we don't have it replicated to the toolserver yet. (is it really really new? is it part of a different database cluster?) Anyway, could you bring it up in #wikimedia-toolserver, and ask if one of the DB admins there could get it replicated to the toolserver? --Interiot 19:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
This is the oldest revision of any page, dated May 10th. So it's quite new. Jon Harald Søby 19:42, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Usually I can at least access the new database myself shortly after it's created, even if it's not available via toolserver webpages. Since it's a couple weeks old, I suspect it's part of a different DB cluster, and may take some extra work by DaBpunkt or something to get it replicated over. --Interiot 19:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Identified problem with tool/bot you are using

On this edit[1], it seems you may have used some sort of tool to, among other things, replace semi-colons with commas in order to align the page with the Wikipedia Manual of Style on Disambiguation pages. However, in doing so, you replaced semi-colons that were part of the name of a book and a computer game, respectively, so that it is no longer the correct title or link. -- Centrx 01:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not a tool, it's just vim, with manual search/replace, I just got a little too fast/overzealous. I'll be more careful. Thanks. --Interiot 03:13, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Simple code copy

Instead of having people copy code, why don't you have them subst it? Just say "copy & paste {{subst:User:Interiot/Tool2/Code}} (or whatever the page is) into your monobook.js", because some of us are just too clumsy with code to even copy it. (You should see me work with Perl.) — SheeEttin {T/C} 01:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you change my userpage?

Jamie 16:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

it does not matter now. Jamie 08:04, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: {{linkless}} + {{disambig}}

Thank you for pointing that out, and you're right, the perfect disambiguation page just has one inbound link, and that's from the applicable list of dab pages in the project namespace. I will work avoid doing this in the future, and I see you've already fixed the pages in question, thanks! --W.marsh 23:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images with multiple uploaders

Regarding images with multiple uploaders.... would it be possible to notify both the latest and earliest uploader (or all uploaders)? I made a minor tweak to Image:ScoobyDooGameDesign.jpg, and then was requested by OrphanBot to resolve the copyright issue. Since I wasn't the one who downloaded it from somewhere else, I'm not the best person to resolve the issue, so I had to move the message to the original uploader. Per above, you have a whitelist that allows uploaders to say "this is a minor tweak"... do you have a list of terms that I can use? ("optimized using optipng" isn't appropriate for most of my tweaks) Does the whitelist term have to be the entire edit summary, or can I add things after it? (eg. I usually prefer to explain my minor tweaks as much as possible). Thanks... --Interiot 19:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for taking so long to respond. If you include the word "tweak" or "tweaked" in the upload summary, OrphanBot will know you aren't uploading a new image. --Carnildo 03:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit counter

Hi, Interiot, nice edit counter, but I just noticed that at least in my case, while it seems to find my edits it also seems to "credit" to me edits I didn't make. Looking at [2], the first few are correct, but then we see some incorrect entries:

Then a whole bunch of correct entries, until we hit

Then some more correct entries, then

And so on. Any ideas what is going on? Among other things, does this mean that my edit count is way overreported by the counter? I have a vague memory trace I might have voted thumbs down in an AFD for Bus drivers, but I am pretty sure I never edit that article! Puzzled ---CH 09:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

The toolserver data is corrupt, see the blinking message, an external edit counter, or #wikimedia-toolserver. --Interiot 09:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Interiot, I did see that message (it is hard to miss), but I don't understand it. You might rewrite it to explain that the results are likely to be incorrect in certain ways for certain reasons, since I guess this is what you were trying to say. Actually, if it is really that bad, maybe you should disable it entirely? ---CH 14:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles I created.

Hi Interiot! Could you please run that tool of yours to check what articles I created? I have the nagging feeling, I forgot to list some. - Mgm|(talk) 10:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem, see here in 5-30 minutes. --Interiot 10:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
me too please. Why not publish this bot as an offical one ?--Procrastinating@talk2me 12:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
It'll be here soonish. The tool needs some kind of throttling, since it takes a very long time for the script to run. Code could be written to make sure that no single user refreshes their list more than, say, once a week, and that the total number of updates per hour isn't too large, to prevent a single user from requesting the report for many different users, and thus DOSing the toolserver. That code just hasn't been written yet. --Interiot 12:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I (HardDisk, dewiki_p) would request such an report, too. Greets,HardDisk 11:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
PS: Your editcounter is genius!
Of course it is. ;) The list should be here in 3-30 minutes. --Interiot 11:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 :-) thanks! HardDisk 00:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

For the sake of updating my new page archive, can you please send me a list of what I've started so far? Thanks for listening. --Slgrandson 12:18, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

If you need it for en.wikipedia.org, we'll have to wait until DaBpunkt finishes and brings the enwiki data back up. (and you might need to remind me once it's back up) --Interiot 12:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the effort, yet the report is simply wrong. I know of at least 3 more articles I created that are not listed, and articles that have a history predating my first edit. --Procrastinating@talk2me 12:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
The report does not mention any articles after April 12, as the database is corrupted, and tends to give more wrong answers than correct ones. --Interiot 12:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


Pardon me, can I get a list of articles I created, and can I also

get a list of articles that were deleted? --Masssiveego 08:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Articles created will be here in 5-30 minutes. Articles deleted... I don't have the query quite worked out for that yet. --Interiot 08:37, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Can you please provide me a list of articles created by me (Sritri) on Kannada Wiki? -Sritri 04:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much, interiotSritri 04:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, any chance to give me a list of articles I created on the no:Wikipedia? Cheers, Babaroga 20:36, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More edit counter

And yes, I read the red box, but it seems that the toolserver dropped the enwiki database completely? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, wait... it is dropped. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes. Hopefully enwiki won't be corrupt for recent data once DaB brings the database back up. --Interiot 22:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Any estimates on how many weeks that'll be? --Carnildo 23:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
DaBpunkt said "It can take hours or perhaps a few days (worst case)". See #wikimedia-toolserver for the latest info. --Interiot 23:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Awesome. Now I don't have to wait over a minute for my edit count Will (E@) T 23:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need a clarification

On welcoming and coddling newbies, I've been advising them to use your tool1 (which tonight says I'm a total newbie sans any edits, sniff) to find an admin or ten with similar Wikiwork habits as their own WikiTime, so they can work smart and spread the load as it were.
I figure the script tool wouldn't be good for this as I'd infer it'd be tied to the specific user. More to the point, is it capable of building the nice user time charts which they need to find the suggested mentors?
Secondly, is this database snafu (which has run, what, several months now?) ever going to be robust again, or should we all just plan on going up another damn learning curve and learn to put up with scripts? Not that I care a rat's arse for my edit counts themselves, but the statics (especially on others without much in the way of a user page) were darn useful in figuring out how to address an edit and it's editor! Thanks // FrankB 04:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
The script tool? I think Flcelloguy's may do some graphing, but I'm not familiar with it. My tool is still semi-useful... it doesn't get all edits wrong, and if a user was editing long before April 2006, I think the time-graphs aren't too inaccurate.
As far as when it will be fixed... I'm not personally involved in fixing it (per the sign above, I'm supposedly supposed to be concentrating on work issues), please talk to DaBpunkt or others on #wikimedia-toolserver. --Interiot 05:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
OKAY— thanks. DaBpunkt is a lead! Good luck w/RL needs! // FrankB 19:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Something wrong?

I tried to check my editcount on June 9,2006 but it was not working. It said "This user does not seem to have any edits, or they don't exist". But, before this, it was working fine. Is there something wrong or will it be fixed soon? Please tell me. Other than that, the reaplication lag looks fine. --Acs4b 00:04,10 June 2006(UTC +8)

Same Problem, also tried some other usernames without success Pyrotec 17:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The data set for the English Wikipedia is being reimported and resynchronised on the toolserver following some integrity issues. robchurch | talk 22:24, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

It is still working for my accounts in other languages. GilliamJF 09:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

  • It says en.wikipedia.org data is no longer updated. Can't you see it? Read the rules on the site. Than you will see it. FellowWikipedian 21:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SERENATA

Are you in the process of deleting the SERENATA article again???!!! -Emir214 10:23, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

The real name of the choir is SERENATA. What if we rename it instead to SERENATA (choir)? What do you think? -Emir214 05:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the laugh!

Interiot is awarded this Barnstar of Good Humour for bringing some mirth to disambiguation pages. -- Natalya 15:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Interiot is awarded this Barnstar of Good Humour for bringing some mirth to disambiguation pages. -- Natalya 15:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar. :) Perhaps it's not good to lampoon specific pages, but there are so many that need work. --Interiot 12:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trouble with external use of tool

I'm trying to run your code on another wiki server. Here are the pages in question:

http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User:ASDamick/monobook.js http://www.orthodoxwiki.org/User:ASDamick/counter.js

As far as I can tell, I'm following the directions correctly. When I run it, I get the initial input box, but then the browser briefly flashes the code at me and goes blank, as though the page were empty.

In any event, I'm using Firefox for Windows, and OrthodoxWiki is running a pretty recent version of MediaWiki. Thanks in advance for your help. —A.S. Damick talk contribs 01:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Update: I had been using this version of your code, but I updated it with the version found here on Wikipedia. It seems to work now. Thanks! —A.S. Damick talk contribs 02:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tool 2 Source Code

Forgive me if this has already been posted somewhere, I'm too lazy to read through your archives. Anyway, I was wondering how you got the <form> <input type=text . . . stuff onto wikipedia. I thought that MediaWiki converts it to "&ltform&gt". I was looking at your source code for the tool, but it's way over my head. Could you tell me how you managed to get it onto the page?

--Primate#101 02:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki software does restrict the HTML tags that are allowed. However, once you get someone to run some Javascript code of yours, you can use DOM to create any HTML tag without restriction. In most cases, people don't go giving random people permission to make them run javascript, so the tag-bypassing feature isn't overly scary, but is this case, it's useful enough that some people will go to the trouble. --Interiot 12:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Super Mario Bros box.jpg

Warning sign
This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Super Mario Bros box.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Vic Vipr TC 11:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits don't work

I followed these instructions: his tool does not work with Internet Explorer.

 1. Open your user javascript file (most often monobook.js).
 2. Edit the page and copy-and-paste the code below.
 3. Go to User:Interiot/Tool2/code.js.
 4. Press the "control" and "F5" buttons on your keyboard at the same time (the page will now refresh).
 5. Enter your username into the box and choose "submit".
 6. Your edit count should appear!

and when I refresh (if FF or IE) all I see is code. Can you help? Rlevse 21:12, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I have the same problem. Try this link. Stephen B Streater 21:23, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
That's where I see code only. Rlevse 21:32, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
This page gives me code, but the link I gave you (which I scavenged from a user box above) works for some reason. Perhaps there's a clue in there somewhere. Stephen B Streater 21:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Neither one works. Rlevse 21:39, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I couldn't work this out. Empty the Web cache and/or try again later perhaps. Stephen B Streater 21:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

PS

  • Username Rlevse
  • Total edits 9663
  • Distinct pages edited 3236
  • Average edits/page 2.986
  • First edit 19:25, 15 November 2005
  • (main) 4403
  • Talk 951
  • User 653
  • User talk 1530
  • Image 296
  • Image talk 57
  • Template 54
  • Template talk 26
  • Category 84
  • Category talk 52
  • Wikipedia 981
  • Wikipedia talk 133
  • Portal 410
  • Portal talk 33

Stephen B Streater 21:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

THANKS!Rlevse 21:55, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof and Interiot Tool

It seems the reason this didn't work is that my monobook already had code for VandalProof in it and I'd added the edit tool code after it. VP stopped working when I tried it that way and began working again when I took out the edit tool code. I suspect the same reason is why the edit tool did not work. How should I set this up so both programs work? Right monobook only has the VP code and VP works fine. Rlevse 12:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

That probably means that the code for the edit tool has a syntax error. As soon as Javascript hits an error, it stops executing anything after it. Different browsers have different/annoying ways to view javascript errors, but if you have Firefox laying around somewhere, I recommend using it and its Tools>Javascript Console. (usually clear the console, then reload the page) --Interiot 12:45, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
The problem was that I'd copied the "pre" tags when I dropped it in my monobook. Now I get the username prompt, then it says "Retrieving data...", but then I get an "Unresponsive script" warning box on your Interiot account and my Rlevse account, but on a friends Coffeeboy account, it works--he only has 213 edits and you and I have thousands. Hmm. What should I try now? Rlevse 20:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)...a bit later...do I just have to keep hitting continue on accounts with lots of edits? Rlevse 20:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Yep, that seems to be it. BUT, one last issue. On the article tab of my monobook, the code looks "broken" (ex: you can't see the refresh directions, dotted lines are there, etc), but if you view if by selecting it in history, it looks fine. What is causing this? Interestingly, the programs work. Rlevse

[edit] Tool2

Is it possible to add "deleted edits", like the original tool had? Thx. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 00:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

It would only work if you're an admin. And, congratulations on your recent RfA. Even then, I'm not sure it could work... I don't think there's any remotely on-wiki way to list all of one person's edits that have been deleted, are there? --Interiot 12:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Unrelated, but since it's a "Tool2" heading...
Jude made the basic script, I modified it for Tool2, figured you might like it and/or want to have a peek:
A script which adds "Edit counts" to the toolbox (only tested in win/firefox) ~Kylu (u|t) 17:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Kylu: Check out User:Haza-w/User cactions. --Rory096 08:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
In reply to Interiot's question, no. There is no centralized place where deleted revisions can be retrieved on-wiki. The only possible place would be Special:Asksql, but that was disabled a long time ago... Titoxd(?!?) 22:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] At long last!

The editcounter for EN is back up (after half a week on hiatus), and now it's time you gave me the new pages list. --Slgrandson 16:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I was about to go "omgomgomg [squeal]]" but it seems that the data is still a little out of date: 556000 seconds and counting.... æ² ✆ 2006-06-14t18:02z
The lag is about 6:6:50:xx (d:h:m:s). Seems the new data hasn't been replayed... Will (message me!) 22:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
6 days 14 hours according to the text version. and I'm supposed to be getting an A* for my maths GCSE? Shame on me! Will (message me!) 22:32, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, but now the data that was corrupted is now fixed. On the other hand, all the new data now being replicated is still corrupted. Meh.
Slgrandson, the report will be here soonish. It's still cut off at April 12th though, as I don't know when the new cutoff between currupt and non-currupt data is yet. I'll try to calculate that tonight after work, and regenerate it. --Interiot 23:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I think it's all good data. Looking at OrphanBot's edit count doesn't indicate any obvious out-of-place edits any more. --Carnildo 00:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Woah, that's the coolest 24-hour graph I've seen. :)
Okay, maybe you're right, the data may be 100% good. I re-ran Slgrandson's report with the latest data, and all the pages I looked at after April 12 look good (it seemed to be another script that was sensitive to the corrupted data). --Interiot 00:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
So you're saying that en_latest_revid is having issues but the replication otherwise seems okay? æ² ✆ 2006-06-15t18:45z
Yeah, that tool probably has some flaw about it, I guess. I had thought it was accurate, but oh well. Yeah, all seems well (other than replication being down currently). --Interiot 23:18, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Looks like replication's gone bad again. OrphanBot's listed as editing in a number of namespaces that it doesn't edit. --Carnildo 17:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] replication lag

hi Interiot, love the tool, bought the t-shirt man! :-) anywho, it sez the replication lag is 18 hours! it has been going up like this for quite some-time. is there a problem? have a nice day. --Suleyman Habeeb 05:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, replication is off, for now. It's actually several days behind, as the lag you're seeing is the lag with respect to Adler (the server for most Wikimedia wikis) not Ariel (the database server for the English Wikipedia).[3] Titoxd(?!?) 06:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there ANYTHING anyone can do to help cut into the lag? Its almost at 1 and a half weeks now. Just curious. American Patriot 1776 21:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tool 2

Tool 2 does not seem to work for me in Netscape - Here I only have Netscape and IE.--Irishpunktom\talk 11:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Your monobook.js seems to be empty. You need to fill it out with the bits to get the Tool2 code to trigger. --Interiot 13:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DOM

I tried what you said about inserting html through the DOM, but I can't seem to get it to work on MediaWiki. It works fine when I run a normal HTML file from my computer. I've been experimenting with User:Primate/sandbox.js, and I even inserted

document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
  + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Primate/sandbox.js' 
  + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');

into my monobook.js, I don't know if that helped at all. Is there a tag or code I'm missing, or is MediaWiki just mad at me? I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what I needed to do to get anything to work in my sandbox.js page.

Thanks.

--Primate#101 15:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

That should work. If you're on Firefox, can you try the Tools > Javascript console to see what kind of errors you might be getting? --Interiot 21:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion for Tool 2

At the moment, tool 2 doesn't work well for large numbers of edits. Would it be possible to have a streamlined version that doesn't process the edits, but just checks if there's another page and either adds 5000 and moves on, or counts the edits, and then just displays a total? That should be relatively fast even for 1000s of edits, and while knowing the various namespace totals is useful, an overall total is better than nothing. You could add an option to filter by namespace too, I guess. Thanks for a great tool, though! --Tango 22:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

It's probably possible... I keep hoping the toolserver will become functional though, so I can implement new features rather than re-implementing old ones. I didn't realize everyone was using it for RFA though, ahhhh. --Interiot 00:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Without the toolserver, it's pretty much all we've got, and edit counts are (regretably, but unavoidably) very important in RfA. Is there really much chance of the toolserver getting fixed? And even if it does, will they correct all the corrupt data? --Tango 12:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
There's a number of things that lean me away from development in Tool2... I don't have any time to code for wikipedia right now. There are more reasons than just edit counters to get the toolserver working again (StubSense and CatScan are more obviously productive), so I'd rather put any dev time I have into getting the toolserver working. There will never be a dearth of edit counters. If the toolserver does start working again, there's a possibility that Tool2's use will be discouraged by MediaWiki developers, as it's a very inefficient use of wikipedia's resources. --Interiot 14:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox Feed

Hello. I wondered if the userbox feed is being updated any more or if it has been discontinued. If you want to respond here, that's fine, or you can respond at my talk page. --Think Fast 22:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

It should actually update from time to time... is the cache functionality not working properly? I've manually cleared the cache, maybe it will work now. --Interiot 00:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
It's now updated. Thanks for your help. --Think Fast 02:41, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Counter

Hello Interiot. When I typed in the URL for your Edit Count, it seemed to be removed. What the hell happened, and, can you please put it back on? Thank you. Weirdy 06:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC).

Hrm, both Tool2 and Tool3 seem to be working for me. What specifically are you trying, and what specific error message are you seeing? --Interiot 07:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
It's not removed as far as I can judge, but it is terribly behind: the replication lag is 50 hours at the moment. Steinbach (fka Caesarion) 11:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your "Tool"

When I added your tool to my Monobook.js, and I "purged" my Page Cache on Mozilla, it started doing things that are not meant to happen, such as whenever I click on a link Mozilla creates a new page on my toolbar ( a new window pops up, instead of connecting within the same window). This applies to all sites that I attempt to connect to.

Could you explain this?

Cheers,

Booksworm Talk to me! 08:21, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not Tool2. Press and release your shift/ctrl/alt keys a few times to make sure they're not stuck. Check your Tabs settings in Mozilla. --Interiot 11:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please delete my monobook subpage

Hey Interiot, I am sorry but can you delete my monobook.js page because my Mozilla wont let me edit and my IE will. I don't want to be kept from editing, so we you delete that page? Thank you! Red Director 03:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, for the typo. So will you delete that page? Red Director 03:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
You can blank it via MSIE as well then? Anyway, it's deleted. --Interiot 03:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cswikisource

Hi. Since yesterday I cannot get any answers if I try to get edits for cswikisource_p for any user. The answer is This user does not seem to have any edits, or they don't exist - an obvious nonsence, I should have about 1000 at least. -jkb- 22:02, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Hrm, that's odd, the information is in the database, it's just not showing... I'll look at this shortly. --Interiot 01:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

It works since yesterday, thx, -jkb- 09:22, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The King

I saw your disambiguation page and wondered why no reference to a male Monarch, but there is a disambiguation page King which includes other references to people called "the king". Perhaps your page should be a redirect page. I'll leave it to you to decide. --Richhoncho 15:22, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The page isn't owned by anyone, least of all me (I didn't start the page). Anyhoo, feel free to add a {{mergeto}} notice or otherwise merge/redirect if you want. As a more conservative edit, I added a "See also: [[King]]", as you're right, they do refer to a few of the same things. --Interiot 15:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of articles created by me

May I have a report created of all the articles I've created, like your list? —THIS IS MESSEDImage:R with umlaut.pngOCKER (TALK) 17:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

If it's not too muhc trouble, I'd quite like one as well... Shimgray | talk | 17:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
No trouble at all. They should be here in 5-30 minutes... [4] [5]. --Interiot 18:40, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Could I have a copy too? Thanks Agathoclea 06:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
sure thing. --Interiot 06:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much -- Agathoclea 19:04, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Shimgray | talk | 17:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

May I have a report like this as well? Thank you! — Catherine\talk 07:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure thing, will be here in 5-30 minutes. --Interiot 07:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

And me please? — Garykirk | talk! 11:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

here you go. --Interiot 14:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Me too please. I've been looking for a way to do this for ages. -- I@n 05:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

here you go... --Interiot 05:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
2 minutes! I can't complain about the service here. Thanks -- I@n 05:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

May I also have a report made, greatly appreciated. Hossens27 06:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

All the Western Australians are coming out of the woodwork! And me please? Snottygobble 06:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

He speaks for all of us sandgropers no doubt, me please too? -- SatuSuro 06:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem, these should show up here in a few minutes. I guess I should make this more automated so that manual intervention wouldn't be required, but that would make some german law-abiders angry, no doubt. --Interiot 06:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your help! SatuSuro 06:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks from me too. Suggestion: one of these days you might like to consider breaking out the redirects into a separate count. Snottygobble 13:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
eg. a summarized count? Or break them into a separate list? Or...? They're already sorted at the bottom, right? --Interiot 13:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I beg your pardon, so they are. Ignore me, you're light years ahead. Thanks again. Snottygobble 13:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Another user thought of that, actually. I'm just here to listen to suggestions and code. --Interiot 14:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Hossen27 09:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toolserver TOC

Here's what I see...
Here's what I see...

Uh, why is TDS's article contribution counter listed twice on the TStoc? I'm trying to figure out where the duplicate entry is, but I can't find it... Titoxd(?!?) 07:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I... only see one of them? [6] Did you manage to fix it, or are you still seeing two? --Interiot 07:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I still see two. I don't get it, I've deleted the cache and all the other usual tricks... Titoxd(?!?) 07:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Ahh, I see the two you mean. I see the same thing, yes. I have a small trick up my sleeve... /home/interiot/tstoc.txt is a file that gets overlaid on the meta.wikimedia.org data, allowing toolserver account holders to add data that is private or shouldn't be edited by random users (eg. I may add a largish HTML pop-up description for each tool at some point, and didn't want to go to the trouble of mucking around with HTML-filtering to prevent malicious javascript). It's overlaid, but the one thing that needs to be common between the two files to allow them to overlay is the URL... and the two URLs [7] [8] point to the same thing, but don't overlay so well. Anyway, problem should be fixed for this now, I just removed the old (now unneeded) overlay data for that specific tool. --Interiot 07:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
So that was it... ah. And I was going nuts trying to figure out what was wrong on the muggles' side... it's fixed now in my screen too, BTW. Titoxd(?!?) 08:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:INT

Mind if we reappropriate this shortie for Wikipedia:WikiProject Integration? -Ste|vertigo 01:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how many people use the shortcut. While I thought the page refered to the first tool (Tool1, not to Tool2 or Tool3), making it a page for a deprecated tool, other users seem to assign other meanings to it, so it's possible other people will have opinions on the shortcut. But in lieu of that, I went ahead and reappropriated it for you. (though if the integration project goes inactive without acquiring many backlinks, I may eventually redirect it to Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters, just because it has a few (talk page) backlinks relevant to external edit counters) --Interiot 02:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CAT:CSD

A discussion on the use of headers for the page Category:Candidates for speedy deletion is currently being discussed at Category_talk:Candidates_for_speedy_deletion#Category_Header_Information. Your input would be welcome. — xaosflux Talk 01:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My

I went to the Interiot tool and typed in my screenname "RainbowSprinkles" and it said This user does not seem to have any edits, or they don't exist I have MANY edits and I DO exist! LOL! I typed in Kylu's name and it worked! Respond on my talk! RainbowSprinkles [[Talk [Contributions] [Email me] 13:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

The toolserver is only replicated up to June 10th, and so doesn't know about any of your edits yet. It's better to use the Tool2 instead. --Interiot 14:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Just used your Tool2 edit count script, and have to say it's about 100 times easier to use than Flcelloguy's!

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 18:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My article creation page thingy

Could you please update this? Thank you. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 13:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure. It should be here in a wee bit (note the change in URL to include the "enwiki"). --Interiot 17:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article creations

May I have a report created of all the articles I've created in the Finnish Wikipedia? There my username is Hartz (.../articles_created_fiwiki_Hartz). Thanks. --HartzR 09:50, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Should be here in a few minutes. --Interiot 10:56, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] lag link

I seem to have lost the link to the lag of Ariel. DO you have it? Thanks. American Patriot 1776 19:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Leon's graphs? (To infinity, and beyond!). --Interiot 23:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Heh. Is there any schedule to get that fixed? Titoxd(?!?) 00:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I've heard several stories, I'm not sure which ones are the root issue(s):
  1. enwiki replication is slowing down dewiki/et.al. replication, and they're waiting for a faster hard drive to be installed before turning on enwiki replication again
  2. enwiki replication is slowing down dewiki/et.al., and they're creating a second toolserver for enwiki replication only [9] (erm, though Robchurch has said this isn't the case, and the email says that the 2nd toolserver is a non-database computer, so this is probably not correct)
  3. DaBpunkt's enwiki replication script is corrupting data, and that needs to be fixed before replication can continue [10]
I'm pretty confused about the first two though. --Interiot 02:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
It was a white page with just a few lines of text on it I believe. It was also a live feed. American Patriot 1776 04:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
This maybe? Replag is just a single SQL query that most people on the toolserver have, so it's available in a variety of forms (two IRC bots, a couple of different web pages, at the top of many of my and duesentrieb's webpages, ...). --Interiot 05:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that's it. Thanks! American Patriot 1776 21:41, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Last I heard, they'd turned on the replication script, found it was corrupting data, fixed the problem, dropped the enwiki data and replicated from a database dump, turned the replication script on again, found it was corrupting data again, and turned it back off. --Carnildo 00:37, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] tweak for editcounter

Hi, Interiot.

The English Wikisource recently had a custom namespace (Author: and Author talk:) created. On the editcounter it displays as "Unknown namespace 102" and "Unknown namespace 103". Is there anyway this can be changed to display the actual namespace? Namespace 102 is the "Author:" one, and 103 is the "Author talk." Also, when you click on the "Unknown namespace 102" link, it brings up a list of pages and how many each of them have been edited, but it doesn't make the pages in the "Author:" namespace as it should. This is not a major issue, so only worry about this when you want. Thanks!—Zhaladshar (Talk) 20:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Yup, should be working now. --Interiot 23:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Undead

Would consider running the "undead" report once more? Possibly with longer timeout value. -- User:Docu

DaBpunkt is the one killing queries, in an effort to keep dewiki replag down. Anyway, yeah, it's restarted. --Interiot 13:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Did it go through? undead.txt didn't update. -- User:Docu

[edit] Account Finder

Your account finder tool ([11]) does not find accounts at test.wikipedia.org. It may be that the account was not set up recently enough, or it may be a genuine problem. Thank you! —Daniel (‽) 16:37, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles created

Could I get a report of the articles that I created on the German Wikipedia as de:Benutzer:Liesel. Thanks Liesel 17:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long, I've got to make this so end users can more directly run it. Anyway, here it is. --Interiot 14:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem. Thanks. Liesel 14:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the entry at Lisls german page. I read there from this nice script. And the disabled Editcount is a very helpfull tool ie. for easier infos about admin-candidates. (I can see there more esealy the lemmas where i have knowlege about.) // I hope for you that your efforts to make the script for created articles so that end users can run it more directly are successful. I would have also a list from my created articels. I'm de:Benutzer:Fg68at. And can you also made a list of de:Benutzer:Hansele? Thanks Fg68at de:Disk 13:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know at this time, but 1 hour bevore you leave me the message he ask in "Questions to Wikipedia" for such a Tool. :-) Now, he say "Thanks, Super!" :-) --Fg68at de:Disk 08:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Fg68at told me about the nice feature you created to get a list of all articles one has started. I would be interested in such a list both for my German and my English Wikipedia activity, if you would be so nice as to run the necessary scripts.--Bhuck 10:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Yup, no problem, see the top two entries here. --Interiot 15:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] enwiki replication

DaBpunkt has gotten all known replication data-corruption issues fixed, and replication is running again. If it doesn't negatively impact dewiki replication, it will continue. If it does impact dewiki replication, they'll stop enwiki replication and wait for the faster hard drive to be installed on the toolserver. --Interiot 14:36, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

There's still corrupted data on the server. What are they planning on doing about it? --Carnildo 20:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
What kind of corrupted data? Any examples? Titoxd(?!?) 21:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the underlying corruption is, but if you look at OrphanBot's edit counts, you'll see edits in places that OrphanBot doesn't edit, such as the Portal Talk: namespace. --Carnildo 00:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
There's about [tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/queries/tmp/en_munged_pageid ~3 days] of corrupted data (june 7 - june 10). I'll ask DaBpunkt next time he's back on whether he plans to replay the whole thing again, or if there's a way to patch up this data. Anyway, it looks like enwiki replication is turned off again, until they get the disks? --Interiot 01:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] StubSense problem

I did a query on Category:Cornwall and here's the resulting list: [12] I'm concerned because it lists 6 stubs has having {{Cornwall-stub}}, which doesn't actually exist. What could be causing this? ~ Amalas rawr =^_^= 18:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Those articles did have {{Cornwall-stub}} at one time, until the template was deleted... the toolserver data is ~1 month old, so it doesn't have the latest-greatest information, but StubSense is still largely useful as long as you remember that caveat.
  1. Cornish Yarg cheese
  2. Fry an Sprys
  3. Great seal sanctuary
  4. ...
The toolserver may also be back to real-time sooner or later. --Interiot 02:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editcounter again

Sorry to be bugging you about the editcounter this late in the game, but I was wondering if you could recommend a system or program that would list all of my edits? I tried to look at some of the java ones, but my technical expertise in java code isn't that great, so I need help finding the best one that you would recommend. I liked your system, is there another one that is similiar to it? I'm sorry if I have asked any of the same questions as the ones posted above, but I just want to check and see how addicted to Wikipedia I am. Thanks. --Nehrams2020 18:56, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Tool2? --Interiot 01:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Features disabled

The following features have been disabled pending review by a lawyer to make sure that they comply with German privacy laws (the toolserver is housed in Amsterdam, but is owned and controlled by the German Wikimedia group):

  • the daily graph on the edit counter [13] (although the underlying data is fully publically available, it's possible that displaying analysis of this public data falls afoul of German profiling laws)
  • the weekly graph on the edit counter [14]
  • the monthly bars on the edit counter [15]
  • the contribution tree [16]

This is a decision by the German Wikimedia group to limit possible legal liability. These features will be re-enabled once they're reviewed by a lawyer and confirmed to not cause any legal liability. --Interiot 15:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, could you tell me how long it will take to do this? --84.156.175.24 16:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
It's an estimation, so don't hold me/WMGermany to it, but it's estimated that they'll be able to discuss it with a lawyer on Monday (July 17). --Interiot 16:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
In case of negative response from the lawyer, there's a way a user will be able to access this kind of informations on his own edits? Maybe it would be possible to have a link, some thing like "Snowdog My talk My preferences My watchlist My contributions My stats Log out" that depending on the project in which is logged into, will redirect to the correct editcount page. --Snowdog 00:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Anything owned by global Wikimedia and hosted in Florida would still be legal (eg. Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters). Opt-in might work on the German-owned toolserver, but will almost certainly be as difficult for end-users to use as installing a Java app for the first time. (I don't know of any easy way for the toolserver to verify that a user is who they say they are, whether linked to from monobook or not) --Interiot 00:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Sigle sign-on? extended to the toolserver? --Snowdog 16:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, just few words of support - your tool is doing great job with or without the now disabled features. If it would be of any help, I personally can opt-in for them (although I almost do not use them). Greetings, Goldie (tell me) 10:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't have any implementation yet that makes the edit counter capable of opting in, since I'm not sure whether that'll be necessary yet. Thanks for the thoughts though. --Interiot 10:50, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Maybe the counter could be made into a special page or would this be too much for Wikimedia servers? --Nux talk | didn't answer? drop a note 12:46, 17 July 2006 (UTC) PS: validator for the counter - most are because you've missed some </li> and type of <script>. Also most links don't have & converted to &amp;

That might be possible. I'd be surprised if someone else hadn't written one already since so many non-wikimedia wikis seem interested in edit counting.
Anyway, de wikimedia has advised me to implement an opt-in feature as it may take the lawyer a while to respond. So... I guess I'll try to do that this next weekend... --Interiot 00:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Indeed they have. It's just not enabled. Titoxd(?!?) 06:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] note to self

Note to self: encoding problems [17]. --Interiot 16:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish stubsense

I don't mean to be a bother, but I was wondering if any progress has been made on stubsense for the Spanish wikipedia. There's a fair amount of work to be done over there, and before I hop in and do it manually I thought I'd ask to see what the tool status is. Thanks! --Spangineeres (háblame) 16:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not complete yet. I have to rewrite some parts of StubSense since Spanish wikipedia mainly uses categories for stubs, not templates. I suppose this would be pretty useful to have? --Interiot 00:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I think it would be useful—there are thousands of stubs that should be in more specific stub categories, and going through the categories manually is quite a job. I know you're busy though, so if it's too much work that's fine. --Spangineeres (háblame) 13:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
How's this? --Interiot 09:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Awesome! Thanks so much. --Spangineeres (háblame) 01:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] StubSense database

Something's screwy with the database StubSense is using. I just tried a query on Cat:Channel Islands and the top of the list with 313 entries was {{Russia-stub}}. I checked to make certain that there wasn't an inappropriate subcategory, and there wasn't one. Caerwine Caerwhine 17:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Could you give the URL used when running this? (I'm having trouble reproducing it) Also, did you click on "link" and try to investigate one or more specific links to see if they were in a subcategory or not? --Interiot 00:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
I normally go for the max 4000 entries, so I used this link. I noticed I wasn't getting anything notably screwy at the default 100 articles. I've checked going down from Channel Islands, and I tried going up from a couple of the links provided, but going up led to some very lengthy and trips up the categories tree. Caerwine Caerwhine 20:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with the subjects to know which of these are good or bad, but the trail seems to be: [18] --Interiot 11:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Aha, but in this specific case, Category:Geography of Georgia (country) was created on June 9th, a period for which the toolserver data is corrupt (the toolserver data doesn't match the on-wiki data), and that's the reason. So, in this case, you're right. DaBpunkt will be fixing the corrupted data sooner or later. Sorry 'bout that. --Interiot 11:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category philosophy

(Someone should probably write a tool that lists all categories that are the parent of a given article (per GMaxwell's suggestion). The category structure is really weird in places, and going deep often gives unexpected results (eg. "Duracell" is eventually listed underneath Category:Vehicles... Vehicles > Electric vehicles > BEV components > Electric batteries > Duracell. Each step makes some sense, but the conclusion (that duracell is a vehicle, or is even related to vehicles) is completely wrong). Without having more information, I assume something similar is happening in your case. --Interiot 00:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
(happened to see this) The category structure is not a tree, but a directed graph. It may have cycles and all manner of other nastinesses. The fundamental "upward" relationship should not be thought of as "is a", but simply "is a member of" (with no special formal semantics attached). Since the categorization is done by humans, and there is no software enforcement (of anything), I think the only rational conclusion is that categories are useless for any sort of formal analysis. -- Rick Block (talk) 02:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I certainly agree that categories don't convey any specific relationship currently, and that different people have different ideas about the relationships that should be conveyed by categories. I basically argued your standpoint with GMaxwell previously (that categories are too messy to be used in category-recursion tools, though with the caveat that hopefully as these tools become faster and more widely used, that people will hopefully start to treat category relationships more formally). GMaxwell's standpoint is that categories could be cleaned up with less effort than you might expect. I threw out a couple examples, and in those cases, he seemed to be right, that there's usually one rational change that could be made that made the example useful for more formal analysis. In one case, it would have been difficult to convince others that the change was needed or would be productive, but again, the changes are relatively small, and if tools like these are used by more people, it might be possible to move towards more formal relationships. (with the "list all parent categories of this article" functionality being hilighted by GMaxwell as the first place to start)
(though maybe "formal" isn't the right word for what I'm thinking of... I don't know if categories can lay out a semantic web any time soon, but hopefully incremental changes can be made that allow tools to answer a few more very basic kinds of questions)
(and as an aside... I thought that cycles aren't allowed by current category policy (not that they don't happen, but that they could be easily fixed)) --Interiot 03:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I think the basic issue is that the one relationship (category member) is actually used simultaneously for different semantic meanings. For example, the "is a" relationship is very common, but many categories also include as a member the "defining" article of the category and other related topics (see, for example, Category:States of the United States which contains U.S. state - does this mean the article U.S. state is a state?). At one point, I spent a fair amount of time on categories but I stopped paying much attention a while ago (too much of a clusterf*** if you get my drift). Samuel Wantman has been trying to rationalize the simultaneous multiple uses of categories for quite a while. The current stance on cycles is "discouraged, but allowed", see Wikipedia:Categorization#Cycles should usually be avoided. There's always discussion on WP:CG's talk page about this if you're interested. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, certainly it's because other things than "is a" are used. The example of "defining" article isn't so much of a problem... the cl_sortkey is usually " " or "*" in that case, so that could be ignored well enough.
One example where "is a" might not be enough... I think there should be a category that ties all automobile-related categories together, even though they're not all "is a" the same thing (Category:Auto parts are parts, Category:Car manufacturers are companies, Category:Auto shows are events, ...). So "related to" or something might be needed as well.
But again, even if it's not possible to construct a full semantic web, maybe it's possible to say "all categories under this one are isa relationships", which would allow you to answer at least let you answer a few more questions than is currently possible. --Interiot 04:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh my fucking god, my eyes have been opened. Can't some of these be changed? (list of all parents of Category:Electric vehicles):
So categories are sometimes just random free-association with little to no meaning? --Interiot 11:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Multiply by 100,000 categories getting populated by 10,000 active editors most of whom are not programmers (and thus are unaware of things like "is a" relationships) and you start to get the picture. Wikipedia:WikiProject Categories is probably the right place to talk about this if you're interested. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I came here looking for more about your tool, but since I find myself referenced, I have to join the discussion. I have to agree with Rick. I think the nature of a Wiki makes it almost impossible to come up with a clean taxonomy for categories. But I think the more important point is that categories are not just a system of classification, but a tool for helping people browse. If you go to a category you are looking for articles about the subject. Sometimes the relationship of the aricles to the topic is an "is a" and sometimes it is a "mentions this or is related to this". Sometimes it is a bit of both. This gets even fuzzier when you go up the categorization hierarchy. If we limited the relationship to "is a", I think categories would be much less useful, and the politics of maintaining them would get much worse. I've seen many NPOV battles about category inclusion related to the "is a", "relates to" distinction. I'll give you an example. Matthew Shepard is in Category:Hate crime. I spent weeks trying to settle a dispute where an editor insisted that he should not be in that category because Matthew's murder was not technically a hate crime. Another position you could take is that Shepard the person does not belong because he is not a hate crime. But his article spends many paragraphs talking about hate crimes, and his murder focussed attention on hate crimes, and stimulated attempts at hate crime legislation. Someone looking for articles related to hate crimes would likely want to find that article. There is definitely utility in having his article in the category. Categorization is not classification of the titles of articles, it is about creating a web of knowledge, and helping people browse. -- Samuel Wantman 09:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that it's realistic to simply make sure that the further up you go, the more general categories become. According to that, it wouldn't be a problem to put Matthew Shepard under Hate crime. The chain I list above goes more general, then more specific, then more general... doing this allows parents to wind their way around to eventually having nothing in common with the bottom article. 2) If you want to browse, use wikilinks. Feel free to put wikilinks in category pages. Just don't make a parent category be more specific than the things below it (except for when cycles are specifically needed). --Interiot 09:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree with what you are saying. Many of the connections in the example above do not belong. Instead of being subcategories, many of these should be replaced with a manually created "See also:" links on the category page. I once proposed that we have "related categories" coded into the software as well as subcategories for just this reason. -- Samuel Wantman 09:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
You can add ==See also== on any category page... --Interiot 09:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I do this all the time. I've also added instructions to do this at Wikipedia:Categorization. -- Samuel Wantman 06:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] note to self:

SUL/DannyB doesn't work... it should most likely find cswiki cswikt csbooks csquote cssource commons meta test incubator frwiki skwiki ruwiki, but it's not. --Interiot 08:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding backup edit counter

I noticed that my Wikimedia user edit counter has not been updated for quite a while. Does this mean I have to add your backup edit counter (or at least something similar) to my page for the Wikimedia counter be updated? (Or is something else wrong?) Thanks. Wild Wolf 19:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The data that the de.wikimedia.org counter is currently not being updated due to technical issues outside user's control. The get an up-to-date count, you'll have to use a counter that doesn't rely on the de.wikimedia.org's data... use Tool2 or Essjay's or something. --Interiot 00:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Artificial satellites currently orbiting Earth

Thanks for your comment. Yes I do plan for it to include satellites that are in relatively stable orbits but are no longer functioning. I got the idea when I saw Category:Living people and I finally decided to make the category today. It will hopefully be helpful to people wishing to know more about whether certain satellites are orbiting or not. DarthVader 07:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

The da Vinci Barnstar
I award this barnstar to Interiot for all the wonderful tools and lists and technical stuff he has created for Wikipedia. Steve block Talk 16:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Have a good wikibreak, hope to see you around again. --Interiot 00:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] opt-in

The edit-count opt-in is only half working, but already people are clicking away on links, and a few have gotten it to work already [19] [20]. Note that the current setup makes it hard for the user to specify if they want to opt back out, or if they want to opt-in for only specific features (eg. the monthly bars, but not the daily graph), but I can manually change those settings for a user if they specifically request it. --Interiot 08:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I love your editcounter. I'm a regular interiotcolorfetisjist :-) Call me stupid. but I could not find links to the opt-in procedure. I'd like to opt in for all the counters at your disposal. :-) for en:User:Zanaq, nl:User:Zanaq, de:User:Zanaq, es:User:Zanaqo, meta:User:Zanaq, commons:User:Zanaq. :-P Good luck with your lawyer. — Zanaq (?) 09:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
*grin* Thanks. It should be working 100% now. Just run an edit count on yourself, and then click on the big "OPT IN" image near the bottom. --Interiot 09:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanx: couldn't miss it. :-) — Zanaq (?) 14:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Using my German wiki account I get the following:
Content-type: text/html
Software error:
Not an ARRAY reference at editcount_optin.cgi line 130.
For help, please send mail to the webmaster (toolserver@paperlined.org), giving this error message and the time and date of the error.
Agathoclea 14:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Opt in doesn't work for me at the Hebrew wiki. I did what you asked to at my talk page, and from what I understand the change should be immediate (it says "Then come back and reload this page to verify that everything worked" - it should work immediately), however it doesn't - check out my stats page. ⌠Yellow up⌡ 14:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, toolserver replication-lag should not affect the opt-in, since it uses YurikBot's wonderful query.php. Okay, I'll debug this... --Interiot 14:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Okay, both issues are fixed. Thanks for noting the bugs! --Interiot 15:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for the opt-in! ;-) --84.56.11.95 14:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC) (fubar) (aka --Fabur 15:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC) ;-))
I've got problems with it, too. It works neither for the German wikipedia (de:Benutzer:Traitor nor for Commons (commons:User:Traitor), nothing appears on the page telling me to reload it after i've made the dummy edit. 87.78.114.191 16:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm... unable to find the dummy edits you made. Could you point out the diffs, or otherwise check to make sure you made the dummy edits? --Interiot 16:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps I don't understand the concept of the dummy edit correctly... I've tried both an edit with no changes in the wikitext, only "I agree to the edit counter opt-in terms" (without the marks, of course) in the summary, and adding a newline plus the summary. According to Help:Dummy edit, it should be correct that they do not appear anywhere, so how do I check them? 87.78.114.191 17:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I really did not understand it correctly. I thought I should make one of those edits that are not recorded in the history, but it must be the other way. Now it's working. Pardon for the disturbance, but maybe you could make clearer what kind of edit one is supposed to do so that no others will come up with the same problem. 87.78.114.191 17:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, the Help:Dummy edit page actually covers two separate (and nearly opposite) things: 1) a dummy edit, and 2) a null edit. I tried to amend my wording to make it clearer [21], but maybe someone else has a better way to phrase it. --Interiot 17:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Interiot, I, too, am grateful for the opt-in option, but the thing itself seems to disagree. I have tried to follow your instructions, have subsequently clicked on Opt In — and found myself opted out all the same (blank page). What am I doing wrong (and why does everybody hate me)? Kind regards, Bessel Dekker 17:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, got it now, thx a lot once more. Bessel Dekker 17:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I previously opted out of the daily/weekly graphs, will that be overwritten if I opt-in now? NielsFTalk to me.. 17:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I've got it set up so your opt-out will override your opt-in (making the bar graphs and the contribution tree work, but the daily/weekly graphs not work), but I can manually tweak it to use whatever settings you want. Just let me know clearly which of the four things you want turned on or off: 24 hour graph, 7 day graph, monthly bar graph, contribution tree. --Interiot 17:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Quick response, thanks! One last question: do I have to separately opt-in for each project (I'd guess yes?)? Anyway, maybe an overkill on information but: I only want to opt-out of the daily/weekly graphs, nót the monthly bar graph and contribution tree, for the following projects (all accounts are named NielsF): wikipedia: af, de, en, es, fr, it, nl, la, pl, pt, sv; others: commons, meta, nl.wikimedia.org, nl.wikibooks, nl.wikinews, nl.wikisource and nl.wiktionary. Is this enough information? NielsFTalk to me.. 18:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, each account has to be opted-in separately. And yes, if you opt-in, that should be the default behavior that you'll see since you were previously opted out as well. --Interiot 02:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello - I have the same problem with your great tool - I put the line on da:Bruger_diskussion:Nico, but with no effect . What have i done wrong ? -- Nico-dk 08:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
You have to put the agreement text in the edit summary, not text of the talk page. --Interiot 08:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
OK - now i got it - thanks -- Nico-dk 08:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Vandalism

Thank you for your message. I gave that user a t3 because of previous instances of vandalism (none of which were reported by me) on his/her account. Normally I would give a t1, which is, to the best of my understanding, a friendly note to edit more constructively. It is written on each Wikicalendar page "Do not add people without Wikipedia articles to this list," so an editor adding someone without an article is making an unhelpful edit to the page which merits a t1. (However, in same cases I simply revert an edit without giving a warning if it seems the person might be notable but does not yet have an article - i.e. (from my experience reverting these types of edits for several months) a birth before 1980, since it seems the vast majority of "vanity" edits come from users under 25-26 years of age.) In the case of the edit I reverted, I would assume that it is vanity - "Indian, love life dancer" does not seem like the occupation of a notable person, and being born in 1985 is another indication of possible vanity. I see that for whatever reason, that tag was removed from December 23 (often people remove it when they are adding someone without an article to the list), so I have restored it - thanks for alerting me to that. Though I've made hundreds of edits to the Wikicalendar pages in the last several months trying to maintain their quality and therefore am prone to making honest mistakes now and then, I stand by my original action in this case. However, if you feel that the t3 was too harsh considering that the tag had been removed, I would be happy to change the t3 to a note clarifying this. Please let me know what you think. Fabricationary 17:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bad article name

Hello, I'm ja:user:Kkkdc. Thanks for the Contribution Tree. But I notice only a few bugs. Please look at this page, it show about ja:杉山とく子. However, in fact, those edits are in ja:Wikipedia:井戸端. You can confirm it, click the "(diff)" link. Similar problems happen in [22] etc...

Maybe you already noticed the bug, I give you by way of precaution. Thank you.

I can't speak English... --Kkkdc 19:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Hrm. It's probably the same data-corruption issue that en.wikipedia.org had, caused by DaBpunkt's replication script. We'll discuss it, and see when the data can be fixed. [23] Thanks. --Interiot 03:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for speedy reply! --Kkkdc 05:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Ahh, all the new asian databases have corrupted data just like enwiki. :( I've promised DaBpunkt I'd work on a more robust tool for checking that newly-replicated data is good, so any further data problems (if they exist) will be caught more quickly. --Interiot 14:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] edit count: limited opt-in

hi, is there a way to opt-in to the contribution tree only? If so, would you please take my words here as opt-in for all my accounts under the same name (en, de, commons)? TIA --h-stt !? 10:46, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

done --Interiot 12:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with opt-in

Hi, I have two problems with the contributions summary and I am not sure what I did wrong. I opted in yesterday, the required edit summary appears in the history, but my detailed edit count information is still invisible. Second, my basic contributions summary significantly differs from another edit count (which seems to be really up to date). Tankred 15:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Tool2 is up to date, the toolserver is not. The toolserver admins are working on getting enwiki replication going again, but it's been slow going (it's been down for 48 days). The other issue is that the tool says to make the revision to User talk:Tankred, not User:Tankred. I've manually updated it, you should be good to go anyway. --Interiot 15:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I am so stupid:-) Thank you very much for your help. Tankred 14:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WatchlistBot

I've been reorganizing how the bot works, and need to update its page. Basically, it can do three things:

  • interactively find all categories in a project, starting from some top-level category, and browsing the tree. These categories are then tagged with the project tag. This is much easier if there are some keywords that if they're present don't require confirmation. For example, categories containing "Texas" belong in WikiProject Texas.
  • get the list of tagged categories, find all articles in those categories, and tag them (with optional user input, but I can't really judge articles outside of my interest area). The bot does not deal well with categories in which some articles should be tagged. There are some workarounds, and the bot could be modified if needed.
  • from the list of tagged articles/categories/images/etc, create a formatted list. This can be used with related changes to create a project watchlist.

Other features could be added easily enough, if you can explain exactly what your goal is. Do you want to create a list of articles without tagging them first? That would be easy. If you'd like them to be tagged, that's easy too (but time consuming, since the bot only makes 6 edits per minute, and I don't like to run it unsupervised). I'm tagging Texas right now, and then will work on Hawaii, but if you let me know exactly what you're looking for, I'll put it on my to do list. Ingrid 17:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It does work with any single template. It's not very sophisticated though. It doesn't keep track of changes to what's in the categories or even what's tagged. I run it fairly regularly (at least once a month, more when I'm more active on wikipedia) to update the list based on "What links here" for the tag (this is very quick). I run it very infrequently to update what is tagged. Mostly that is done once, then maintained by people working in the project, once they understand that they should tag new articles (this could be run more often, but it's very slow -- I can give you my code if you want to run it yourself -- it's Python). Deleted or renamed articles are handled automatically, since they no longer show up under "What links here". The bot could be made more sophisticated -- right now it doesn't use the existing list to weed out already tagged articles, it just checks their talk page. There are probably other things, but I didn't worry about it, since I use it to tag infrequently. Ingrid 18:12, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
It does not already do what you want, but it comes close. I'll update it to do what you want sometime soon, and let you know. I need the template name, and the location of the list (doesn't have to exist yet). Do you want me to put it at the link you already sent me? Is whenever I get around to it often enough for it to be updated, or would you rather run it yourself? Ingrid 18:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for bringing this up. I've updated the bot, and it works much faster now generally. A couple more questions. Do you want it to only list untagged articles, or all? Do you want any formatting? Ingrid 20:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I just made the first scan. It's set to list all articles in the tagged categories each time I run it. If you'd prefer something else, I can change it. Ingrid 14:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

It runs whenever I get around to it. I'm very active now, and will probably run it every couple of days, maybe even more often. When I was on wikibreak, it was about once a month. Even when I'm on wikibreak though, I'm usually still here reading. So, feel free to leave me a message if I haven't run it for awhile and you'd like me to. Ingrid 14:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the limit is. I ran into it with the Texas project between about 9000 and 12000 articles. Is it 10000? Do you know? I started having trouble saving pages, but it would still work sometimes. Whatever I do, I'd like to make it work for everyone rather than have separate code for each project. How about all articles (up to 10000) stay on the main page. Non-article pages, and talk pages go to subpages. I'll change the code now. If it doesn't work for you, let me know. Ingrid 13:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opt-In Sucks!

I can't find the number of edits per month for any user with this new Opt-In crap. I used to be able to see the number of edits per month for Jimbo Wales, Curps, Royobycrashfan and other admins, as well as some non-admin suers, but this is gone do to this sucky downdate that claims it's good.Walkeraydz 02:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I certainly agree, and I hope that opt-in won't be used for very long. A few points: 1) as long as the toolserver is hosted in Germany, there may be some possibility of some sort of restriction due to German privacy / informational self-determination laws. (though if the only restriction is the 24hr/7day graphs, maybe they weren't actually all that productive, and it's not such a problem) 2) Wikimedia DE is having a lawyer review the edit counter, to have a better answer as to what their legal liability is. Apparently this may take several weeks. Once a lawyer reviews it, hopefully at least the contribution tree can be displayed again, and hopefully the monthly bars as well (and if they can't, then my plans for some sock-checking tools will have to be delayed until we can find a non-German-solution). --Interiot 03:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to disable ?

Perhaps i want to disable my Opt-in-Access. How to ?

Mail me your username. Sorry this is not so easy to do at the moment, but we're hoping that opt-in is not a permanent feature, but that opt-out may be. --Interiot 07:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Put this info into your FAQ.
I want to opt-out, how can I? Charbelgereige 23:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
You're not opted-in. Do you want to opt-in? Or do you want to make sure you're never opted in? --Interiot 23:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for images

Hi - thanks for your hard work in creating the page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles/Requested images. It should provide a valuable guide, stimulus and focus, for editors wishing to embellish pages. However, in taking a look at the article Brake, I found pics of Disc & Drum brakes in the relevant articles, so I am unsure of what you envisage for the 'Brake' article itself. - Ballista 11:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

No probs - actually not pointing anything out, just querying whether you think a new pic would be constuctive &, if so, what sort of shot? - Ballista 11:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll go for a bike brake and a disc brake and will upload today! - Ballista 11:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
We have pics! Please check & see if in line with requirements - can do new ones, if required. Had done a few other components but too much dirt in the pics was very distracting - clean up time for the motor, then more pics. - Ballista 14:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editcount for an old friend?

Greetings! The editcounter seems to have given up on me in June - could you be so kind as to drop me an edit summary on my talk page? Cheers! bd2412 T 12:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks. bd2412 T 13:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles created by ..

Would it be possible to create a list of articles created by myself nl:Gebruiker:Magalhães on nl.wikipedia similar to User:http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/reports/output/articles_created_Interiot.html. I would be very pleased. Thanks, Magalhães

No problem, should be here soon. --Interiot 13:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Oooooh... I assume if you ran one of these for me it would crash the system! ;-) bd2412 T 13:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
It might reveal the identity of the masked ranger... Anyway, it'll be here eventually, but it might take a while. If dewiki replication lag goes up, it might be because of this. ;) --Interiot 13:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Lord, it took only 19 minutes to run. --Interiot 14:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again! bd2412 T 02:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Magalhães 18:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi! id like to see articles i created on fi.wikipedia? Can't remeber all of those. My username is fi:User:Zxc in fiwiki. Thanks! --Zzzzzzzzzz 13:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Zzzzertainly. It'll be here in a few minutes. --Interiot 13:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Would you like to update that page? Or if its possible, do it someway once in a month. Thanks ;) --Zzzzzzzzzz 18:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
It should be updated soon. As far as later updates, I should eventually have a way you can run it yourself, but it's not ready yet. --Interiot 18:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
You dont have yet added features such as manual update? If not please update it again ;) thanks! (once in a month) --Zzzzzzzzzz 21:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Could you please create an enwiki creation report for me as well? Thank you! — Catherine\talk 00:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Yup, should be here in a few minutes. --Interiot 00:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Would you be able to do that for me as well? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 01:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Yup, see here in a few minutes. --Interiot 01:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Me me me! :D Please? I'll give you a bunny :) Haukur 15:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I've always wanted a bunny. The report should be here in a few minutes. --Interiot 21:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Take three! Thank you :) Haukur 21:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Take three! Thank you :) Haukur 21:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Open Editcount

Here is the c&p of my dummy-edit: [24] I hope I get now the view to my Edit-Count. German: de:Benutzer:Juliana da Costa José Thanks --Cascari 14:19, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colbert

Hey let stephen join ISV, hell surely make vice president nexxt to me Senior Vice President and Jack the Executive Vice President. Mr. Vacatour 17:44, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opt In Editcount

Hi! I´m not en:wiki user, but in es:wiki you'll see my "agree" here [25] . Email sending to you also is not allowed from spanish wikipedia. Please, help me to opt in. Thanks- Antur (es:wikipedia) --190.49.223.8 00:41, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

You're opted in now. You're supposed to add the text to the edit summary. --Interiot 02:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colbert vandalism

I'll stop adding nonsense once Wikipedia gets versioning of pages that can be frozen and verified. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.87.134.91 (talk • contribs).

Hell yes. Absolutely. --Macarion 02:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Wikiality

"No, Wikiality is not notable yet. Colbert has run an awful lot of 'Wørd' segments, many of them with made-up words, and obviously we don't report on all of them."

You're correct- but how many 'Wørd' segments have explicitly referenced Wikipedia? This term is EXTREMELY notable, if only within the Wikipedia community. Was it not notable that Wikipedia administrators had to protect 20+ elephant-related pages from vandalism because of the segment? For Wikipedia, this was an important segment, and I propose that your refusal to acknowledge that (considering the fact that Wikipedia already has dozens of self-referencing articles) is not based on logic at all, but personal feelings. I propose that the segment hurt your feelings by illustrating the mainstream concern that Wikipedia is not a reliable source of valid information. And I propose that you get over it. And finally, I propose that you are a !@#$@. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DANh (talk • contribs).

We're here to write an encyclopedia with a neutral global point of view, not a point of view that promotes the immediate interests of the Wikipedia community. In 5 or 10 years, Wikiality will likely be forgotten. If it does become a notable phenomenon, it will take a few months, and we can write more on it at that time. --Interiot 05:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Truthiness certainly didn't take a few months to reach national newspapers. I think this whole situation is as ironic as it gets. "Wikiality" means reality based on a certain consensus rather than fact, but one or two administrators get to decide that the word can't get its own page even if the majority of people thinks it deserves one. It's megalomanic--Tomsintown 19:55, 2 August 2006 (UTC).
Regardless of how much time it takes, the criteria seems fairly clear... as soon as a reliable source covers Wikiality as an important event, as soon as an RS recognize Wikiality as something culturally important, then it may get a small article of its own (eg. if it's covered in a few mainstream media websites at the very least). That's been policy for a very long time, and that's not nearly "reality based on consensus rather than fact" as a bunch of Wikipedians deciding whether or not Wikipedia (or anything else) is important. --Interiot 01:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vehicle component images

Hi - As promised, I've taken a few pics of various components. I have posted them up on a sub-page: User:Ballista/Images/Vehicle components if you want to take a look. I've uploaded most to relevant articles but can't find one on car air-con or climate control. Let me know if you feel I should alter these in any way. - Ballista 07:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverted your recent revert on Infocom

70.52.234.11 changed an external link to an article at "The Dot Eaters" on the Infocom article (edit). You reverted it (edit). While 70's edit did look a little odd, it appears to have been legit; the URL of the page at The Dot Eaters changed. The old URL is now 404 Not Found. So I reverted your revert. If you believe I've made the wrong call, let's discuss it on Talk:Infocom Alan De Smet | Talk 22:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

You're right, the thedoteaters.com change was needed. At first glance, 70.52.234.11 seemed to be link-spamming (appeared to be adding links indescriminately without careful regard for whether they're useful for the encyclopedia. We get a lot of external-link spam from IP's who don't use any edit summaries and seem to go through pages very quickly)... In many cases though, the user fixed links rather than adding them, and in this case the changes were obviously desired. I've gone back and reverted myself in all cases where the link was pre-existing. (further, the site is a good one, and some of the link additions were probably useful... if 70.52.234.11 was connected to the site, then I'm happy if others review the links and revert me where they're clearly useful) Thanks for letting me know so I could fix this. --Interiot 01:37, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elephant

I've spoken to many people and they all seem to agree the elephant population has exploded in the last three months sir. While I am not a zoo-ologist I edited the article to the best of my knowledge. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.77.214.22 (talk • contribs).

[edit] User_talk:Stephencolbert

[edit] User talk:Stephencolbert

Howdy! Just a heads up, I posted a quick summary at WP:AN#User_talk:Stephencolbert. Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 20:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I agree to the edit counter opt-in terms

I agree to the edit counter opt-in terms Zboralski 21:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] edit counter issue

Hate to bother you, but someone reccomended that I use your edit counter...except I can't get it to work. I honestly have no idea what I did wrong - I followed the instructions exactly 3 or 4 times and all I manage to get is code. Admittedly, either I'm very stupid (which is probably the case) or the direction seem very unclear - for example, when you say "edit the page and copy-paste the code", I don't know which page you're talking about, where to copy the code from, and where to paste the code to. I'm unsure whether I'm supposed to actually submit my changes or leave it in the edit box, if I'm reading it correctly. Forgive my technological ineptitude, but it seems so cool that I wanted to try it. Perhaps I'd be better off counting my edits manually, considering. *sweatdrop* Again, sorry to bother you. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 21:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you using Internet Explorer? It has a bug with Internet Explorer. If you're using IE, try Essjay's counter instead or something. --Interiot 04:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, what in IE makes tool2 break? And a small sales pitch for the just-released editcounter... Titoxd(?!?) 04:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
No idea, I haven't looked at it. I don't know, people should use Essjay's tool or something. Or I shuold revive Tool1 on the toolserver, since that had some of the graphs and edit-summary checkign and such, and since Essjay is apparently getting away with it without being blocked. But it still seems like a waste of time since it still seems at least possible that the toolserver will be working again sometime in the next decade or two. --Interiot 11:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, the problem with reviving Tool1 on the toolserver would be that the graphs would be under the same privacy restrictions as the current editcounter... and I wonder if being on the same network makes the toolserver scrape contributions faster? Titoxd(?!?) 17:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the toolserver is in Amsterdam, so it wouldn't be faster. But it would have the advantage of avoiding bandwidth bills for myself...
Anyway, yes, I suppose that even the monthly-only graphs might not be kosher for de wikimedia, or at least we won't know until the lawyer responds. :(
But supposedly there's a chance that the toolserver will be replicating enwiki as soon as ~1 week from now, so we'll see. --Interiot 17:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not using IE, I'm using Camino...I'm not sure what's up *sweatdrop* sorry for not responding earlier...well, if you don't know what's up, that's fine, but I suppose you would have wanted to know or something. —Keakealani •Poke Me•contribs• 22:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Enforce inclusion of categories

I've started a proposal to change the software to prevent mainspace pages from being saved unless they contain a category. Please offer your thoughts! bd2412 T 21:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, by the way (not to criticize or anything) I got a few false positives on the list of articles I started (or purportedly started). Just a handful, but I thought you should know. Cheers! bd2412 T 01:32, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the enwiki toolserver data is corrupted from like June 7 to June 10th... you'll find that all of the false positives were created in that time. Maybe these things should be documented somewhere, but it seems like the list of caveats only increases, and the usefulness of the toolserver only decreases. :(
Anyway, I'll take a look at the proposal. --Interiot 03:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opt-In problems

Hi Interiot, I'm trying to opt-in for your editcount tool. I did the dummy edit as described in the opt-in procedure, reloaded the page but nothing changed. See here for the dummy edit. --Carstor 17:04, 5. August 2006 (CEST)

uhm ... another reload and it worked pretty well. Thanks anyway ... :) --Carstor 17:06, 5. August 2006 (CEST)

I was pretty happy to see your opt-in instructions after a long hiatus in being able to use the editcount tool. So I did the dummy edit. I now get the graphics, however the edit count remains stuck at a value from about two months ago. Can you assist in getting the updated number? Sunray 17:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the toolserver still isn't replicating data for en.wikipedia.org. For a more up-to-date count, you might want to try Essjay's. --Interiot 17:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


hi Interiot, opt-in does not work for me... I think i followed the opt-in procedure as described, but still get no graphs and and message that i need to opt-in. My discussion page is here: [26], the edit counter here : [27] --84.190.146.36 11:25, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit-count tool and name change

I recently had my username changed to Springeragh, but since then, when I look myself up on the tool, on Springeragh it tells me either "this user has no edits or he doesn't exist", and on my old name, CliffHarris, it only had my old edits up to July 29 (the date which it was changed on). Is this a glitch or does it happen often? —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-T|ε|C|L-) 00:41, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

If it's on enwiki, then the toolserver only has data up to June 10th. DaBpunkt is working on getting the toolserver working again for enwiki. --Interiot 00:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] make "OPT IN" in zh-yue wikipedia

I use OPT IN in my zh-yue talkpage,but it has some problems in here.--Alexsh 04:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

It looks like there's a bug with YurikBot's query.php. I've added a work-around in my code, and you should be opted in now. Thanks for the bug report. --Interiot 05:49, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lancia Y10 -> Autobianchi Y10

Hi Interiot, I would like to ask you for a small admin favor :D According to the WikiProject Automobiles standards, the current article on the Lancia Y10 should actually be swapped at the Autobianchi Y10 (i.e. Lancia to redirect to Autobianchi not the other way around), as the vehicle was marketed as Autobianchi in its original market. This is a rather minor issue and I wouldn't like to start a big bureaucratic procedure about it, so I would be most obliged if you could execute that. Thanks a lot, Bravada, talk - 13:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Grazie! ;) I will edit the article accordingly in a moment. I also cordially invite you to help improve the Autobianchi articles in your spare time ;) Bravada, talk - 14:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Edit counter tool2 does not work in Cologne Blue

Hi, Your edit counter seems to dislike cologneblue. I have tried using it in Firefox and Opera both, and it only works (in both browsers) if I switch to monobook, which is not my preferred skin. The contents of my cologneblue.js and monobook.js are identical.

I don't really have a serious interest in maintaining Tool2. Its main benefits are that it is difficult for admins/devs to block * (it was written shortly after my Tool1 IP was blocked, and shortly before I got a toolserver account, after which I spent my time developing Tool3 instead), and that it is potentially easier to set up on other MediaWiki websites. At this point, there are many edit counters available, and some of them are decidedly more user-friendly (eg. Essjay's), so I likely won't be working on Tool2, unless there's clear interest from non-wikimedia mediawiki users (though even then, it's not always easier to install on those servers). Also, Ais523 is working on an improved version of Tool2 [28], so perhaps it would be better to make sure that version fulfills all of your requirements. That said, I would be more than happy to answer questions or otherwise support anyone who is interested in making code improvements to any of these javascript edit counters (it's fairly trivial for anyone to make their own copy of a Javascript edit counter and start hacking at it).
* There is no single IP or single user agent to block, and while the page must be located on-wiki due to Javascript security restrictions, any user can install it at any location, so deleting one of its pages doesn't necessarily cause it to become unavailable. --Interiot 05:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Done this the right way?

I agree to the edit counter opt-in terms --Algont 08:32, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Not my talk page, your talk page. --Interiot 08:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I tried to follow the OPT-IN instructions.

And now? --Bundesstefan

Next Try --Like this?

Thank you, very much...

[edit] note to self

display problems on line 751 and 752 of this. Maybe just HTML encoding problems, the link works fine. --Interiot 03:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opt In Editcount

Hi! I´m not en:wiki user, but in it:wiki you'll see my "agree" here . Email sending to you also is not allowed from italian wikipedia. Please, help me to opt in. Thanks --83.184.251.100 06:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC) William

[edit] What the...?

Recently I changed my Username on de: from Sarazyn to Benutzer:Jonathan Groß. Your counter tells me to opt-in. I do, but no effect. Can you help me? Sincerly, Sarazyn • TALK • DE 10:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Seems to be working now for some reason. Did you do anything? For what it's worth, there's potentially a 5-second delay in between when you save the page, and when you reload the toolserver page (after replag gets to be 5 seconds, I switch over to a non-toolserver way of checking) --Interiot 10:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hehe. That very Immedatism of mine... THX anyway. Sarazyn • TALK • DE 10:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Bravada/template

Hi,

I know you aren't a big fan of my propositions, but I think at least some of them can help realize your priorities too! As a first-class WikiMagician, I hope you could help me with developing some useful tools for our WikiProject.

I am really fascinated by the practical and useful template our fellow WikiProject Trains utilizes, so I decided to shamelessly steal it and do some reverse engineering :D See the page linked in the section heading for where the secret lab in which the process takes place :D I will put some questions regarding technicalities on the talk page, if you could take a look, I would be grateful :D Bravada, talk - 12:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello again,
I do not intend to make any changes to main namespace, categoryspace or templatespace or actually anything but my userspace. I actually hope when we will be sure we have a solution that will answer all our needs, I could ask you to implement it so that no vital link is broken. As concerns Template:AutomobileWatch, I was hoping the new features would be integrated into it so that it could perform more functions. I hope this is feasible.
As concerns your other questions, it wouldn't be OK. It would be ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS if you could do that. I can now see that there is a bot that operates basing on the current template, so perhaps it's just a question of adding a more complicated script? Bravada, talk - 13:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] While we're at that...

A Smart car!
Hereby I award you the original MCC Smart car, which was created in cooperation with Swatch, for being very smart and creating the extremely helpful Group-wide watchlist, as well as numerous other important things I probably take for granted.
Or do I need to be told to stop making poor puns? Bravada, talk - 18:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

...could you take a look at the General Motors -> Opel issue? Bravada, talk - 18:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] for some reason edit count work

The title line with "//" won't get go into the box that goes around the code. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.--Scott3 21:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you trying to opt in? Could you explain a little more? --Interiot 20:30, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Updating your editcounter

Hello Interiot, I've been using your editcounter for several months but as of August 2006, your editcounter as stoped counting my edits since June 2006 which I don't know why and came to tell you after waiting and wish that you can help something about it. And also, I'd like to OPT-OUT my daily/weekly graphics too. So can you help me about this? Thanks. Alastor Moody (talk) 22:11, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The old-data problem is being worked on DaBpunkt and the other folks at German Wikimedia. I'm not sure when this will be fixed, sorry. :( I really need it working too.
You should be opted out of the graphs... Currently you haven't opted-in yet, is that right? But if you ever do opt-in, the daily/weekly graphs still won't show, only the monthly graph will display. --Interiot 22:31, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:RECALL

Hi, I think you might find this policy proposal at WP:RECALL relevant, and I would be curious of your comments there and on the talk page. Thanks! rootology (T) 17:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page history tool?

Hi - I think I saw something somewhere about a tool that could extract a text version of an article's history (for copying into a talk page, for example following a merge and delete). Does this ring any bells with you? Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Click on the GIANT LINK on my homepage, search for history, and it's right there. :) --Interiot 01:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Ah yes, I've apparently clicked the link before (I'm pretty sure this page is where I've seen it). This list is hard to find from Wikipedia:Tools, maybe I'll fix that. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GDFL-something issues

I am turning to you as a seasoned admin and senior member of the WikiProject with an issue I have regarding image copyright. I am completely not familiar with all those Creative Commons GNU GFDL stuff that some images get marked with (I upload all my photos as public domain). In the French version of an article I have just created fr:Simca Ariane there is a photo marked GFDL, if I understand the tag correctly. I was wondering whether this license would allow me to copy the image to the English Wikipedia and if so, under what conditions. Moreover, I was wondering whether I could crop the picture so that it showed the car only and not the background. Regards, Bravada, talk - 11:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply! I knew you are the right person to turn to :D I will take advantage of the GFDL then and upload the Ariane to the Commons and crop it later for our article :D One thing bothered me however as I tried to dig through the English article on GNU or GFDL - there was something about commercial use mentioned. All that we do here has to becomes automatically licensed under GFDL, doesn't it? So, this means that anybody can use Wikipedia for commercial purposes, like just dump the content and make money on it?
Well, that would be quite improper, as people here are doing a lot of great work but I guess certainly not for somebody to make money on that! I am not speaking about my puny contributions, as these are just results of my, I guess overly abundant, spare time, but I guess there is quite a lot of great work done here and it would be a shame if somebody just took it and made money on that. I thought of it more like community service - nobody will make money on your helping an elderly lady cross the street, and that's why one has a clear conscience doing that. Or perhaps I am just tired and misunderstood something... Bravada, talk - 15:21, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, I guess you cleared some of my delusional misconceptions. I am all for Wikipedia Foundation making loads and loads of money - they are the good guys, may God bless them with all the money they need. Though if anybody would pay anything for the content generated by myself, they would get the sh*tty end of the deal :D I only have problems with some corporations making money using WP content - I don't care about being credited (actually I'd rather not be), but I would prefer if they were bound to pay the Foundation something. What-EVER... Bravada, talk - 16:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What links here tool

Hi Interiot, is it possible for the what links here tool to have an option to filter pages so that only mainspace articles show up in the list or instead of that to show the total number of mainspace backlinks? Regards, Erwin85 08:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that's on my todo list... I was thinking of, at the top, with the current summary, of having something like:
Total (main) Talk User User talk ..
Page links 4000 2001 999 .. .. ..
Transclusions 1000 450 .. .. .. ..
And then each of the numbers would have a link that you could click on to see just that set. Would something like that work? --Interiot 09:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
That would be useful. --Erwin85 10:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Articles

Hey Interiot, I heared you're able to show all the new articles I made. Is it possible for you to show the articles made by me on the Dutch Wikipedia? Emiel 13:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Happy to. The report should be here in a few minutes. Cheers. --Interiot 13:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Same for me? NielsF on nl.wikipedia. Cheers! NielsFTalk to me.. 22:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Yup, here you go. In a week or two, I'll try to have a way for users to run it on their own. --Interiot 00:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! NielsFTalk to me.. 22:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you veryy much! Emiel

[edit] Image removal

Interiot, thanks for your kind interest in the issue - I really appreciate that! You can find the request for the explanation I did not receive at User:Durin's talk page. I am not sure whether he would be interested in replying to that in any meaningful way, and as you have managed to convey some very important information regarding related policies so that they could be processed within the limited capacity of my brain :D , I would be glad if you could explain me all that.

First and foremost, how would you argue to the owner of the Garage that he needs to license the images under CC, GFDL or whatever CDU-CSU stuff rather than simply giving the permission, and inform him about the caveats. Please do not direct me to the boilerplate letters, I have already acquainted myself with them and they do not answer my questions and would not convince me if those were my photos. Moreover, why am I treated worse than a vandal ("Jimbo said so" is not the answer, "Jimbo said so because..." would be), and why sneaking those pics under fair use would be a better solution than undertaking the toil of securing the permission?

The Wikipedia Foundation needs serious consulting regarding "customer relations". As I have some experience in this area, I can provide it to the Foundation free of charge. Bravada, talk - 13:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC) PS. Is it possible to reach you by Skype?

  • Interiot, thanks for working with Bravada to help clarify this issue. Much appreciated! --Durin 16:36, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I said I will let you know when and where I will start a discussion on the topic. Well, I am still contemplating it, but at present an interesting discussion ensued on talk:Ford Vedette. Bravada, talk - 14:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Konnichiwa Interiot-san! I would like to bother you for copyright advice once again - User:BabyNuke has emailed Mr. Stedehouder again asking him if he would license the photos under Creative Commons 2.5 (BY), providing the link to the license text in Dutch. He answered something like "OK" (see BabyNuke's talk page for details), but I am not sure whether this is enough for us to upload the photos using the CC tag. Would you be so kind and tell us whether it would suffice or do we need something more from Mr. Stedehouder? Thanks, Bravada, talk - 21:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lousy barnstar

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
I hope you will accept this lousy RAoK barnstar for going the extra mile, or actually ten extra miles or even more, to help intellectually-challenged and emotionally imbalanced Wikipedia users understand what's going on and just make them feel better :D In short - for absolutely top-notch Admin service to the Wiki community! Bravada, talk - 17:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Interiot, I can't express how grateful I am that you found the time in the middle of the night and agreed to listen to the problems I have with myself not (hopefully) damaging some items or developing the need to physically harm somebody, while also providing me with very substantial answers to the trivial issues I could have figured out myself and just comforting me when I was upset, which is not among Admin duties for sure :D

I would like to award you a Barnstar for Superb Admin Service (SAS Barnstar, see!), but I haven't found anything like that. So I just used the lousy overused and devalued RAoK Barnstar with the reservation that I wish you to replace it with the Barnstar of your choice, which you would find relevant. Actually, this is a Barnstar for showing a quality which is in quite short supply here, as it seems - empathy!

Thanks again and excuse me for pestering you in the middle of the night... Bravada, talk - 17:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] veteran 1900 => 1905

Per the change in various places that veteran includes cars produced until 1905, could you make sure that the autos previously in Category:Brass auto stubs and which were made from 1900-1905 get sorted to {{Veteran-auto-stub}}? (I don't really have an opinion on the matter, it'd just be nice to have things consistent) (I went ahead and made all the text in the other templates and categories consistent, but there's the 181 brass articles to sort through...) --Interiot 10:05, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I have sorted them as appropriate and fixed a few other problems at the same time. The discepancy over the dates has been there for a while and needed fixing I thought. Malcolma 12:20, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for cleaning up Hand (disambiguation)! --Piet Delport 13:37, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Partial opt-in

Hi Interiot, I'd like to partially opt-in: I would like others to see everything, but not the following two things: (a) the 24-hour graph and (b) the weekly graph. Is this possible? What do I have to write into the summary of my dummy edit? So far I have accounts in four Wikimedia wikis, en:User:Wutzofant, de:Benutzer:Wutzofant, fr:Utilisateur:Wutzofant, and commons:User:Wutzofant.

Oh, and btw.: thanks a lot for this great tool. --Wutzofant (✉✍) 01:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Done, no problem. --Interiot 01:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, sorry, I still can't see any graphics; I'm only seeing the "OPT IN" logo: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Wutzofant&dbname=dewiki_p , http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Wutzofant&dbname=enwiki_p , http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Wutzofant&dbname=frwiki_p , http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Wutzofant&dbname=commonswiki_p Or is there some delay?
Sorry, thought you had opted in already. Okay, you're good to go. --Interiot 01:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] When you're online...

...which, I believe, will be in the morning your time (how are you enjoying Tokyo, btw?), could you take a look at the Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors? There is a fairly important (at least for me) notice I left there nobody seems to have taken note of :(

Secondly, I have abused BabyNuke and in the end even emailed Mr. Stedehouder myself, and he confirmed repeatedly and out and out that he is absolutely aware of all the things that might happen to the photos from his site and he totally allows anybody to do anything with them, including commercial use etc., and the Wikipedia use is actually not the first one, as they appeared in magazines before. So I basically thought that applying the commons:Template:Copyrighted free use tag would be the most appropriate, even though we more-or-less have his permission to use the CC 2.5 license - but I guess this is quite questionable to license "on behalf" of somebody. Anyway, I have started uploading the photos there - I guess compared to some people who upload whatever with rather skimpy descriptions, I am quite OK with copyright stuff here, but I was thinking it would also be good to set up a page with a quotation from the email correspondence for all those pics like you did for the Merc.

I have some concerns about that however, so I would gladly email you the correspondence together with them. If you think you could find some time to look into them, please send me your email over Skype. Thanks! Bravada, talk - 02:17, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding DYK - having observed the DYK thing for some time, I can tell you it's within normal policy, otherwise I wouldn't ask you for that. I have asked Samir, who updated the template, for that too, but it seems he went offline before I managed to type that in :D Bravada, talk - 02:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
PS. I will address to copyright thing in a moment.
Re:copyright - Oh well, I'd rather you see the correspondence, it's kinda strange, Mr. Stedehouder is basically reiterating "do whatever you want with that". I can re-tag it with CC, but I'd rather have an explicit expression of agreeing to the license, which Mr. Stedehouder somehow elduded to send me, rather stating what I mentioned above. So I would be hesitant about applying a license, which is a legal agreement, without an explicit statement, and the tag I applied seems to be less "legal" to me and more a statement of fact. I can of course retag the images, but I would really prefer to have somebody look into the correspondence and THEN give their opinion first. Bravada, talk - 02:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi! Thanks for replying! I have replied concerning the DYK on my talk page, I will try to email you via the "Email this user" function, but I guess it would be easier for me to forward everything to you if you could mail me first so that I had your address. There's no rush if you think the tag is OK, but I'd just like to add the reference to my claim... You'll see what I mean. Bravada, talk - 03:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for that!!! I know realized there are two more things to it - one less important (Template talk:Did you know#Instructions to admins) and one fairly important (see top of T:DYKT, the to administrators section, bullet three). Sorry for the bother, but then you became fully qualified to update the DYK and can have a go from time to time, which I think is fun (besides we need more admins involved, sometimes almost 20 hours pass until somebody updates). I hope you won't hold that against me... Bravada, talk - 04:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] E-mail

Hey Interiot, can you e-mail me at moe_epsilon@yahoo.com? I have something I need to ask you.. I would use the "e-mail this user" function, but my e-mail function doesn't work for some reason, so can you e-mail straight to me? Thanks! — Moe Epsilon 04:38 August 21 '06

[edit] Wikiversity

Could you add de.wikiversity.org and en.wikiversity.org to the list of user stats sources? sebmol 17:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

de looks like it's there already (dewikiversity_p). But I'm not seeing the data for en coming over to the toolserver yet... The site has been up for a little bit, right? I'll check with River or DaBpunkt when they get on IRC. --Interiot 01:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NASA WorldWind

Hi there... Could you please spare 30 seconds and give me a direct link to a page with downloadable maps on NASA WorldWind? I browsed the site a little and didn't find what I was looking for. If you don't know where to look right away, don't bother to look at all then. Only if you used the maps already and know exactly where to find them. --Dijxtra 09:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, thanks! I didn't realise I have to download the software. Great, i figured it out now, and Šolta has an image now. Not as good as the one on google maps, but hey, it does it's job. --Dijxtra 11:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Renseignements

Bonjour, Gorille me demande de lui fournir toutes les contributions faites sur la Révolution française, or il ne peut accéder à la liste ma page est désactivé comment faire pour la réactiver, pouvez-vous me répondre en français, merci--88.139.141.245 16:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't speak french, sorry. Who is fr:Utilisateur:Gorille? --Interiot 17:30, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WatchlistBot

The bot already knows whether it's creating a new talk page, so I can easily create a new articles list for you. The other stuff you mentioned would take more work, but probably wouldn't be too hard. I don't know when I'll get to it, but will add it to my to do list. Ingrid 03:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I forgot that the articles aren't tagged. I don't know that it really matters if the articles are tagged or not. It does help advertize the project. I think User:Bravada was going to work on creating a template with task forces similar to what they use at Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains. I'm going to (try to) get back to some real-life stuff I have been avoiding. Let me know if you want me to do anything else specific. Ingrid 22:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the "otaku" page

Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Otaku&action=history since I have leaved a message to you in that page. By the way, as I am a newbie comtributing wikipedia, I am not quite understand the meaning of "RV". Could you please tell me its meanings? thanks! Please feel free to discuss anything regarding this with me via my Talk page or email. Hkcbgcs 20:10, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

(this section is proofread)

[edit] Hey, I've done more editions

Yeah, there's a problem with that edit counter, it says that i've done 121 editions, and i've done more. I'm Juan S.

The toolserver is having problems replicating enwiki right now, try using Essjay's counter. --Interiot 23:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

The categorization system is having growing pains. There seem to be several different view about what our category system should be; a way to browse, an index of articles, a classification system, and/or a database search tool. Each of these views leads editors to different conclusions about how categories should be populated, and many conflicts result. To deal with these problems, Rick Block and I have been working on a proposal to add the ability to create category intersections. We think our proposal will address these problems and add some very useful new features. It might also address some of the proplems we discussed higher up on this page. We are asking editors and developers concerned with categorizaton problems to take a look. We'd appreciate your feedback. Thanks. -- Samuel Wantman 05:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] [editcounter] unknown namespace on it.wp

Hello;
it.wikipedia has now two new namespaces, 102 is "Progetto" and 103 – its talk – "Discussioni progetto", can you please add these to the edit counter? Thanks. --.anaconda 11:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Try it now, it should be working. --Interiot 14:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Report request

I'm trying to find all the biographical articles I created to track down their sources. Can you update this list that was first created back in March? Thanks. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-09-06 03:50Z

yup, no problem, they'll be here (though the toolserver is still behind by ~3 months). --Interiot 08:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Some of these show no evidence that I created them. For example, Fanfare Ciocârlia (listed at 1146). I didn't create the article or any of its redirects, and there are no deleted edits on any of those pages. I also looked through my contributions on June 9th, and didn't find anything related to that. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-09-06 16:08Z
Yeah, the latest toolserver data, from around June 9 - June 10, is corrupted. The original problem that caused the corrupted data has been fixed, so we shouldn't get new corrupted data, but we still have to go back and fix the existing corrupted data.
And actually, word is that the equipment needed to get enwiki working on the toolserver again is now at the toolserver colo... so it might be as sono as a week that we have good enwiki data again on the toolserver. --Interiot 16:14, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-09-06 16:15Z

[edit] Inactive Projects

You created a tool that shows the number of days to the last edit[29]. Why are there some cells in the table missing? Is this a bug? Thank you for your help. --129.27.234.17 19:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Some of the "Letzter Edit auf Diskussionsseite" cells are blank, is that what you're refering to? I think in most cases, that's because there is no talk page. --Interiot 19:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
You are right this is what i wanted to say. But why are there some empty cells in the column with existing discussion pages? For example de:Portal:Tanz [30], or de:Portal:Karneval [31]? Could you please add an information to the blank cells which shows that the discussion page doesn't exist. If you want to put the information in German the correct hint will be "Nicht vorhanden.". Thank you for your help! --129.27.234.213 10:20, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Ahh, there was a bug, it wouldn't show the talk: page for any portal page. This should be fixed now. --Interiot 11:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your fast help. --129.27.234.213 11:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Badlydrawnjeff

Hi, I'm writing in regards to the Bdj incident this morning. I disagree with your statement that "incessent arguing against well established policy" deserves a block. I understand if you think the ANI discussion wasn't going anywhere, but a block? How could that possibly help the situation? Obviously Jeff is going to continue arguing against IAR, and a 3 hour block could only worsen the situation. If you feel Jeff is a net-negative influence on the project there are plenty of places to air such grievences. Blocking and protection of his talk page seems punitive and inflammatory. I know you are an experienced editor and an invaluable asset to the encyclopedia, and I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on my arguments. Thanks. --Nscheffey(T/C) 21:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I certainly didn't support the block to try to silence civil discussion in any way... Multiple people on-wiki and off expressed feelings that dead horses were being beaten, so I think Jeff had (and continues to have) abundant opportunities to discuss his side of things. If he can figure out ways to explain his thoughts more clearly to the other side, I'd definitely be interested in hearing that.
I think the "he needed to cool off" explanation is about right. --Interiot 22:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the reply. I noticed you linked to my proposal at the WP:BLOCK talk page. I would love it if you could also present your opinions there, as I am trying to gauge the opinion of the community in an appropriate venue. Thanks again, --Nscheffey(T/C) 22:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish Encyclopedia Tool

User:Jayjg has told me that you are the man to ask about tools. I have been looking at the missing Jewish Encyclopedia articles, and it occurred to me that there must be a way to put in the text from there into some program and make most of the changes needed to convert most (pre-1900 issues and people that don't have an article - c.11,000). I'm thinking: 1. Change the 7 different special characters to our way of transliteration. (eg. h with a dot on top to ch) 2. Add the "this article incorporates text from the Jewish Encyclopedia tag". 3. Convert the Bibliography to references, and add wikify the style. 4. Automatically add categories for bios, e.g births by year etc. 5. Automatically add internal links These changes would give a text that could then just be checked by an editor briefly and inserted. Can any of this be done? Yours, juicifer 13:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

So are you looking for a bot that posts articles like this, or just a tool that massages the various text, which a human then copy-and-pastes, and reviews before creating? --Interiot 09:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles created

Hallo Interiot, I would really like to know how many articles I created on it.wiki (utente:Civvi). I know it's probably boring but if you have time/nothing better to do I would be grateful for the list... Many many thanks :-) Ciao --Civvi 22:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

It takes almost no time to start up, no problem whatsoever. It'll be here soon. --Interiot 13:29, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Uhm...that's the list for en.wiki not for it.wiki ;-D --Civvi 16:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Oops, didn't read, sorry. It'll be here soon. --Interiot 16:03, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WatchlistBot: Automobiles

I don't know what happened. I'm running it again right now, and if it messes up again, I'll try to fix it ASAP. If there is some easy way to check if a page is new (without having to load the page, which would take a long time), I'd be happy to add that functionality. Ingrid 21:26, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

It did the same thing. I've gotta go right now. It looks like it's trying to process an article called [[<1880s automobiles]] which I don't see. I'll dig into the code later. Do you have any idea what article it might be? Ingrid 21:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I figured it out. Unfortunately, it's not my bug. I've sent in a report, and will update again once it's fixed. Basically, it doesn't like Category:Mercedes-Benz vehicles. Pywikipedia doesn't handle the table properly. This is also where the reference to 1990s is coming from.Ingrid 21:49, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
It wasn't my bug, but it was my fault. I forgot to update to the latest version of pywikipediabot. It appears to have been fixed. I updated the article list. Let me know if there are any more problems. Ingrid 14:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree to the edit counter opt-in terms Absar

[edit] Can't get my editcount

Dear Interiot,it is VERY IMPORTANT form me to watch my wikipediholism, so could you please allow me to see it. Thanks a lot fr:Utilisateur:'Inyan

Just update fr:Discussion Utilisateur:'Inyan with the edit summary that the edit counter gives you. --Interiot 19:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Can you remove the statisticians of my editcount? pt:Usuário:João Felipe C.S 15:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Is that good? [32] --Interiot 15:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes! Thanks! João Felipe C.S 15:43, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi, although I did this and also emptied my cache, I can't see anything here. Thx for help, de:Benutzer:He3nry

[edit] Irony?

Ooh, nice :) you have a list of those? >Radiant< 22:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Ooh, make a list, make a list! :-) Kim Bruning 09:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I think that list is far far too WP:BEANS. :) --Interiot 12:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, then you should make a list to go along with beans, and call it WP:KETCHUP. >Radiant< 22:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Old merge requests" page needs updating

Hi,

I wanna thank you for what looks like an awesome job you're doing contributing to all things Wiki. I have a little requset: your report of old requests of articles to be merged seems to need updating. Many thanks!! --Ling.Nut 17:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

The entire toolserver is really far behind right now. The toolserver admins are working to get it up to date, and it's possible they'll have it more updated in a week or two (though there have been many delays so far). --Interiot 01:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:EL

Interiot, there are important discussions going on what might be one of the more important guideline pages of WP, which may lead to quite extensive changes in the guideline and have far-reaching effects for all of the WP. It tends to be a bit one-sided, since most of the disputants seem to represent a pretty similar stance on that. I believe there is a need for a voice from an experienced admin and an authority on Wikipedia as such, which is why I would be grateful if you could spend this few bits of time and see about it. It would be good if you could also invite a few other fellow admins to monitor the discussion and weigh in with their voices. Thanks a lot in advance. Bravada, talk - 19:04, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Admins don't/shouldn't have any extra weight given to them in content/policy discussions. Anyhow, I'll have a look. --Interiot 01:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
My English might have just been revealed to be seriously deficient, but by "weigh in" I meant simply "take part in the discussion", without attributing any "extra weight" to your prospective comments. I would just feel better if more experienced users would also participate. Bravada, talk - 03:49, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] edit-counter opt-out

Hello Interiot, i just made the opt-in for my accounts de:User:BLueFiSH.as and commons:User:BLueFiSH.as. please remove the hourly and the daily graph. i want only the monthly bars. thx. --BLueFiSH ✉ 15:08, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it should be configured that way now. --Interiot 15:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
hm, is there a reason why the monthy bars are not shown [33]? I made a dummy edit [34] which created a history entry. Same on Commons. --BLueFiSH ✉ 15:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
It looks like you haven't opted in yet. Once you do that, the settings you're looking for will show up. --Interiot 16:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
after i made another edit on DE (without "minor edit" checked) it works. Commons works also. Thank you, for the opt-out and especially for the tool! =) --BLueFiSH ✉ 16:18, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello Interiot, the hourly and the daily graphs are active again. please deactivate again. (also i don't want the contribution tree, which is still disabled, just don't touch it ;-) Thx! --BLueFiSH ✉ 17:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that, things regressed when the toolserver hardware changed. You shoudl be opted out now. --Interiot 17:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles created by me

Could you run one of these for me please? --Durin 15:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Yep, it'll be here in a few minutes. --Interiot 15:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I was also wondering if I could get a report as well. Thanks for your consideration.--Andrew c 15:14, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

And for me also, please when you get time. Thanks for all your efforts. JQ 04:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can you do "articles touched by"?

(I originally asked at WP:BOTREQ, but maybe you are the best person to ask). I would like to have a list (ideally, a wikified bulleted list) of all pages ever edited by banned user User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg. Over at Wikipedia:SU we are currently trying to clean up his contributions (including at least a hundred pages that need to be brought in accordance to the MoS:DP). For some background information, see also this thread at the village pump. To make sure we catch everything, it would be best if we could work from a complete list. Since he has 20k edits, it is too cumbersome to do this manually. Can your tool do this? If it can't, then the list of articles created by him would be a big help already. And if you'd like to help, it would be great! Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 18:26, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I can do this for edits up to June 10t, 2006 I guess. Would that be enough? --Interiot 18:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I think we can easily take care of the newer stuff, especially if we know the cutoff date. Thanks! Kusma (討論) 18:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
How's this? It stops on July 9th, 2006. Redirects are on the bottom half, non-redirects at the top half. I can't guarantee the data is good... it would be good to figure out some way to double check it. --Interiot 18:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
On first glance, it looks about right (except for the odd empty first 106 entries). Thanks a lot! Kusma (討論) 19:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted Edits?

Hi Interiot, firstly I want to thank you for the really great editcounter! But I have one question: what does the line "Deleted Edits" count? And if it counts what I think it to count (the times, one of my edits has been reverted by someone), is it possible to make these deleted edits viewable like the edits I have done myself. As I always want to improve my work on wikipedia (nobody's perfect ;-) I'm very interested in why my edits were deleted. Is it possible to get such a feature soeday or can you possibly tell me which of my edits were deleted in the german wikipedia? Thanks for your efforts! de:Benutzer:Cliffhanger 84.56.106.115 19:37, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

It counds the number of diffs you've made to articles that were subsequently deleted. Eg. If you AFD something, then you've made at least one edit that will likely be deleted later. These edits aren't available for viewing because of Foundation policy... some vandals were including personal information in edit summaries, and even when the page was deleted, the information was still available. --Interiot 19:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your fast reply and the explanation! In this case it's really useless and impossible to show further information. Thanks again for your great work! de:Benutzer:Cliffhanger 84.56.106.115 19:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor EditCounter bar-graph bug

Hi Interiot,

first of all, kudos for the phat tool.

Secondly, if you can spare a minute, have a look at my EditCounter graph: the bar labeled “3910” is shorter than the one labeled “3617”. I guess there's an overflow somewhere.

Cheers and thanks again, --Schwallex 22:33, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

The number on the left doesn't count certain actions, like blocking/deleting/uploading (I think those are the ones)... it only counts the edits that show up in Special:Contributions (what people traditionally consider to be an edit count). The bars, on the other hand, show more than what Special:Contributions shows (eg. includes admin actions). So there can appear to be a discrepancy sometimes. --Interiot 00:44, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree to the edit counter opt-in terms. My all account. tr:kullanıcı:Absar

[edit] #wikipedia-en-admins

Hello! Can you grant me access to #wikipedia-en-admins on Freenode? My nick there is kimchi_sg. Thanks! Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 11:44, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Done. Just type /cs invite #wikipedia-en-admins before joining the channel. --Interiot 16:46, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] edit-counter opt-out

Hello Interiot, i just made the opt-in for my account de:Benutzer:Sinn. Please remove the hourly and daily graph and the contribution tree. i want only the monthly bars. thx. ---Sinn- 07:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Done. --Interiot 14:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where have our paths crossed feature

Is there some tool already that can tell me common articles where two chosen users have edited. Thanks Shyamal 15:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hrm. It wouldn't be hard to do a query manually if you're interested in this just once. Besides that though, there are a class of sock-puppet checking tools that would likely give you a similar answer... I'm not sure if any have been built yet, but it's likely that some amount of work will be put into those sometime in the future. --Interiot 15:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IRC Admin channel

You're one of the folks that I'm supposed to ask for access, I think. If you could be so kind, please just pop me an e-mail. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 15:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] State of Denial

Oops. Sorry for overwriting your edit, don't know how I did that.

And I'm guessing the Washington Post do have access to the book, given that they are publishing extracts tomorrow (today?). AlistairMcMillan 02:03, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm assuming you know that Woodward still works at the Post. AlistairMcMillan 02:08, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry again. Trying to do too many things at once and didn't notice the article had changed before hitting "Edit this page" I think. AlistairMcMillan 02:30, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SUL conflict checker

The SUL conflict checker is not reading Wikiversity data, as I know I have an account on the English Wikiversity, yet it doesn't come up in the SUL query. Just to let you know of that little bug... Titoxd(?!?) 06:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't control the list of servers that are replicated to the toolserver, but I'll ask the toolserver folks about this. --Interiot 03:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with edit counter opt-ins

When I attempt to include my account on the Danish Wikipedia, an error occurs: The page http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/editcount_optin.cgi?user=Meco&dbname=dawiki_p gives an interwiki link to http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruger_diskussion:Meco, however, that is incorrect syntax. The correct link would be http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brugerdiskussion:Meco.

Also, with regards to dummy edits, some sites don't accept the addition of 1 newline only, but register a dummy edit only when two newlines are added (naturally starting from 0 newlines). __meco 07:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I updated the namespace names for da.wikipedia.org, maybe it's fixed now? --Interiot 03:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, the problem was solved. __meco 12:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Open my I agree to the EditCounter

I agree to the edit counter opt-in terms. http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Absar&dbname=trwiki_p

[edit] Thanks!

Gee, I have only just seen your message, it got buried under Renata Beger :D It's so nice of you to ask (can't put it in any less naïve way, my English is having a weekend now)! Well, it's a combination of a few things:

  1. Just as I have joined the initiative, or should I say uphill climb, to bring the Good Articles system back into shape and give it a meaning, the project got totally paralyzed by a group of stubborn people who would engage into endless unproductive debates, which led to proclamations that "GA is worthless" and "GA is in a mess" (it is, because some people just can't let go...) - having invested quite some efforts and actually emotions into this project, I found it very disheartening to have to give up...
  2. We have a rather tense situation in Poland at the moment, and our government is trying to try every spin to bleach out some very compromitating events. As contemporary Poland is very poorly covered on WP, I have taken a stab at updating an article to cover the very important event that happened last week, and found myself pitted against a frequent edit warrior forcing the government's POV. This is the last thing I want to fight about on WP, so I had to leave the article exhibiting POV...
  3. As the GA thing, and a previous WP:EL debacle, consumed most of the time on WP, I have found myself doing very little actual contributions, and the quality of the remaining ones rapidly decreasing.
  4. Having quite a few articles on my watchlist, I try to revert any vandalism that appears, even if the article appeared on my watchlist by accident only, and I might have as well not cared. So, on top of all the above, I am now being accused of incivility, and any user that would wonder on my talk page would learn first that I am uncivil. How nice!

Now, you asked for that, you got it :D I guess I will be limiting my activity in WP now, as it became much more frustrating than fulfilling (or what's the word), as it used to be. Thanks again for your message! Bravada, talk - 13:37, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toolwerks?

Hi there! I seem to recall you were quite adept at getting logs from the toolserver and such (which iirc isn't presently available). I would like to hear your vision on a current problem... the WP:CVU is working hard on reverting vandalism and warning vandals, and they have an escalating system of warnings that may lead to blocks. However, this system is dependent on an accurate log of such warnings; if a user removes said warnings from his talk page, that breaks the system (or at least requires the CVU to look in history logs). But it's not technically feasible to stop warning removal (except by semiprot but that has other problems, or by prohibiting it but that, too, has other problems). So the question is, would it be feasible to create another sort of log somewhere? It doesn't have to be toolserver queries, it could e.g. be a bunch of javascript that drops a talkpage warning and adds a line to some offwiki log or somesuch. Please think about it. >Radiant< 00:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CVU

Well, yes, the history would work, but people argue that false warnings also show up in history. Basically it's a matter of convenience; the CVU wants to use as few clicks as possible to find out a user's "status". At present they warn people that removing warnings is disruption or vandalism, and there have apparently been revert wars over warning removal. Since preventing warning removal is not actually enforceable on-wiki (regardless of whether or not it's desired) I'd say an off-wiki log would help. >Radiant< 10:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contribution Tree

Hello, please deactivate the Contribution Tree for my account on de.wp: de:Benutzer:BLueFiSH.as. thank you. --BLueFiSH ✉ 12:17, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] edit counter opt-in

Hello. What am I doing wrong? [35] [36] [37] [38] ~~helix84 22:43, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] counter opt-in

Hi, i want to see de counter opt-in. What i am doing wrong? ([39]). Thank you,

Likewise for me, it's not working :-) --Storkk 10:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The toolserver hardware just got swapped out, and various environment bits changed (Solaris to Linux, for one). So some things broke, I'll try to get it sorted out... --Interiot 15:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Add articles created stats to editcount

Perhaps it's a good idea if you can add the number of articles created per namespace on your editcount tools. Meanwhile, could you run the list of articles created by :id:user:Irwangatot for sysop nomination analysis (but could you filter it articles on main namespace only). Thanks. borgx (talk) 00:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

The "articles created" query can be really really slow, so unfortunately can't be part of the faster edit counter. But it could be part of queued (eg. you'd hit a button to request, and the query would be run overnight with other people's queries) set of analysis queries that would be good for things like RFA. --Interiot 01:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with edit counter

Your edit counter doesn't seem to work. It says I have made no edits. Rintrah 15:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't work properly for enwiki yet. Until the toolserver works for enwiki, you should try one of the other edit counters, possibly Lupin's. --Interiot 15:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lupin's counter

There's a bunch of counters listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters. I think Lupin's is rumored to be easyish to use. --Interiot 23:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for trying. I don't know how to use javascript. --Dweller 07:30, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] editcount opt-in

Obviously I'm not the first wikipedian who has problems with the editcount opt-in. I made the edit on my German user talk page [40], but the graphics still do not appear. What do I have to do? --MSchnitzler2000 14:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

There's been some environment changes on the toolserver, and I've fixed a few problems, but it looks like some keep popping up. So, this says you've opted in, but this says you haven't? --Interiot 14:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Did you just change something? It just started working. --Interiot 14:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Now I can see the graphics. Thank you! --MSchnitzler2000 14:59, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
I didn't do anything. ;) --Interiot 15:01, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another editcountoptin problem

I have done what it told me to do, but it still says i have to do the dummy edit?????? Whats wrong?? Jamie|C 13:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

You must edit something Make a &nbsp; or something ;) NorwegianMarcus 17:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I added an extra line. It still wont work. Jamie|C 20:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Is the count even showing up for you? [41] --Interiot 22:33, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
It says I have no edits or don't exist. Jamie|C 14:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Right, it appears to do that for everyone on enwiki. I'll look into that, I assume it has something to do with their efforts to get a more updated set of enwiki data. Anyway, what server was your opt-in question about, since enwiki isn't working? --Interiot 14:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The edit count

I have done opt-in, and it all worked out, but now I can't see the graphs [42]. I use Opera 8.0 and 9.0, on Windows. You now why? NorwegianMarcus 17:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

It does neither work in IE. NorwegianMarcus 17:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I see the problem (note to self: [43] needs to be installed). I'll have it fixed as soon as I can find a toolserver admin. --Interiot 18:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, it's working now, thanks for the heads up. --Interiot 15:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name space names switched back to the old dawiki names on counter

For some reason the name space names on the counter for dawiki has switched back to the old names. Please update to the new names again.--Jan Friberg 22:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The toolserver hardware was recently changed. Should be fixed now. --Interiot 22:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks--Jan Friberg 22:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions and some comments

Hello Interiot, first of all thanks for all the time you spend on the EditCounter. Here are my thought on it as

  1. suggestions:
    • The graphical display of the user contribution are per month. It should be possible to integrate a graph displaying the total edits above the detailed edit summary.
    • Displaying the the replication lag is currently only displayed as time. A nice addition are some indicators diplaying a tendency whether the lag is currently increasing, decreasing or stagnating.
  2. comments:
    • I liked the old version of the edit histograms with the thin line better for it was easier to me getting information at what time I do how many edits.
  • some further going thoughts

If I understand your filter right, one is quering the frequency the edits of a given user so one is able to tell article XY was that many times edited by this user. My idea is inversing this query: One applies this filter to a given article to get the count how many times this article was edited by User:XY. As you might see, it is in principle the same way I get the count of my total edits. In this case the name of an article is given and not the name of a user. It is a summary of the version history of an article. I do not ask you realizing this filter; it is only intented to be thought and talked about for I am not sure why I want such a filter ;- --Wendelin 19:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll change the daily/weekly graph back to a line when I get time... this was an inadvertent change as a result of the toolserver hardware change (yeah, that sounds strange, but it's true). --Interiot 19:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Replag increasing or decreasing can be found on another tool on the toolserver... I've had an idea to do this myself at some point, but haven't done it yet. It may happen sometime, but I've got other tools to work on.
I don't understand suggestion 1A.
For editors per article, are you looking for something that's different from what Special:Statistics or Special:Mostrevisions do? --Interiot 19:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Something enumerating this, I presume... Titoxd(?!?) 19:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
TDS had something like that for a while, but maybe it's broken now. [44] --Interiot 20:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Undead

Would you try to run the query for output/undead.txt? As the toolserver seems to be in better shape, it might work this time. -- User:Docu

Toolserver seems to not be working that great... [45] It says nobody on enwiki exists at the moment. Ping me in a week, and I'll run it then. --Interiot 12:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contribution tree

Is the contribution tree working right now? I just made a dummy edit to my talk page but it's not doing much right now. Assistance would be greatly appreciated, but don't worry too much about it. :-) theProject 01:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Seems like enwiki doesn't work for any usernames at the moment. --Interiot 03:25, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Undeletion

No problem, and it was a speedy delete, so speedy restore is in process as far as I'm concerned! I overlooked {{hndis}} useage when I hit this and 3 other pages that were on CAT:CSD. I've restored the others and tagged them as well, thanks for the note! — xaosflux Talk 05:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Essjay's counter not working

Hi Interiot, I've been trying to use Essjay's counter for the last few days.. maybe couple of weeks. It keeps returning an error(below). Please look into it.

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, zedler-admins@wikimedia.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Apache/2.0.55 (Debian) proxy_html/2.4 Server at tools.wikimedia.de Port 80

Sarvagnya 21:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

There's some discussion at User talk:Essjay. I'm not an admin on the toolserver though, so the most I could do would be to put up a tool that's similar in functionality to Essjay's. --Interiot 21:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Doesn't work

Opted in per instructions. It doesn't refresh (even with ctrl-F5). What do I do? •NikoSilver• 22:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused somehow. I'm not seeing edit counts for any enwiki people... are you? [46] --Interiot 22:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

So, I understand there's a problem, huh? I used to see them quite a while ago, but that stopped. Then I fell into this subpage of yours that says I have to opt-in. So I did. Still doesn't work. What do we do? •NikoSilver• 18:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, there's an issue the toolserver guys are working on. How did you fall into the opt-in though, if it didn't show any edits for you? This keeps happening to people, but I don't understand how it's happening. --Interiot 19:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Simple! I clicked on someone's edit summary link (see mine)! It directed me to a sub-page of yours and then I clicked the first link (edit counter). You may want to write a highlighted notification in that sub-page... •NikoSilver• 19:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] not agree

if whenever I change my mind and wanna disable the static I need write "(I NOT agree to the edit counter opt-in terms" ? Now I DO WANT it that make the counter

Please email me your site and username, and I'll opt you back out. Thanks. --Interiot 13:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Counter not working?

Is there a place I can read more about why the counter is not working? Btw, I believe I 'opted in', but I still cannot see my contribs. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help, I believe your tool is very useful. Although, few weeks ago some Polish wikipedians talked about starting a toolserver in Poland; perhaps Polish privacy laws would be more friendly?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  04:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Probably the best place is #wikimedia-toolserver. Twincest/River/Kate and DaBpunkt are the more active admins. --Interiot 04:31, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wow

How uncommonly kind of you. Thanks. --Dweller 18:10, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles I created

Hi,

can you please do a list for me of articles I created on the Norwegian WP (link)? I would really be grateful, thanks Babaroga 18:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Here you go: [47]. --Interiot 19:08, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your time, it's briliant. Babaroga 19:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, please update again this [48]. -- Zzzzzzzzzz  22:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The script should be done in a few minutes. --Interiot 22:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your "wannabe kate" edit counter tool

Totally great! Well, I was supposed to come here for comments...or bug reports... Charlie MacKenzie 23:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. :) It's code I wrote 1.5 years ago though, so I didn't really have to do much. I'm not sure if/when the developers will block it again, but I guess Essjay got away with it for a while... --Interiot 23:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
By the way, did you ever fix the off by one error in the tool? That way, I know if I have to recalibrate the tool again... Titoxd(?!?) 05:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
It should have been fixed... are you getting a mismatch? If you are, then it might be Tool1's fault.... --Interiot 05:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I would tell you, but the toolserver is completely dead at the moment. Titoxd(?!?) 05:52, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, of our two main toolserver admins, DaBpunkt doesn't know how to fix it, and twincest/River/Kate is busy... --Interiot 05:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Ugh. Is that on toolserver-l? :( Can't they just replay the enwiki database again? Just a thought... As for the edit count: I bypassed it using the link on WP:COUNT. However, I do get a mismatch for AySz88, of exactly one edit. He has 1879 main namespace edits per Tool1, and 1878 per FT, and the 5001st edit is in the main namespace, so I imagine that's the culprit. I'm running an editcount on you to double-check... Titoxd(?!?) 05:59, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, as expected, you have 12836 edits per Tool1, and 12834 per Flcelloguy's. The discrepancy in this case is two User talk: edits, and one of them is in Radiant's user talk. However, irony must have had its way, as the other one is in my talk... In total, your tool says that you have 1249 user talk edits, and FT says 1247. Titoxd(?!?) 06:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, it should be fixed now. Sorry, it slipped my memory, I thought I had fixed it already. Thanks for letting me know about the issue.
(for what it's worth, I added a debug parameter, limit=... set it to limit=100, and it will fetch chunks of 100 (you can see by the list of pages at the bottom that it says it fetches)... compare that to the default limit of 5000 [49] and the number now matches with the fix I just put in) --Interiot 06:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
No problem. It's the kind of thing that you don't have to worry about when you actually can use the toolserver database directly. By the way, I think I found another bug... trying to run an editcount for AySz88, I tried to type in 1000 edits in the debug parameter, but I accidentally put in 100... then, the code threw about 30 Too many pages fetched. Terminating. messages, but it kept reading, and eventually it read 54 pages, for the full count. I'm not sure that was the desired behavior... Titoxd(?!?) 07:02, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Haha, nice catch, again. That's fixed. Do you do this for a profession? :) --Interiot 07:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't, but I should... I guess I just like to abuse tools, that's all. ;) Titoxd(?!?) 15:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Nearly valid XHTML"

I wouldn't call that "nearly valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional" ... TZMEverything is notable 16:15, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

You caught me. Everything I do is a hack. Is there a specific rendering problem you're seeing? --Interiot 18:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Edit count

The topic of merging Edit Count to Edit Counters has no grounds for being done. The request was put in 6 months ago and every discussion has said it should not be. It's time to move on and the articles are clearly different. Similar, but different so let's stay away from merging for the sake of word similiarity. Mkdw 22:00, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Whatever. Like I said, I don't really have strong feelings about it. It's been undone. --Interiot 03:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Database problem after opt-in

Hi, yesterday I tried to opt-in. Obviously I made a mistake, because I didn't read the manual exactly (I did some changes and put the text in the summary). But after that, I have some serious problems with tools.wikimedia. On [50] I get the message Software error: Unable to connect to database: Can't connect to MySQL server on sql (111) at /home/interiot/public_html/perllib/ZedlerUtils.pm line 48.

I do not only have that problem with your count edit page, but even with the tool Catscan (Database Error: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'zedler.ts-local' (115) (zedler.ts-local) - failed to connect to log database - failed to log script start!). My Firefox does not seem to be part of the problem, it also doesn't work with Internet Explorer. I also reconnected and rebooted, but that didn't help. It really would be great if you could help me! -- German User Aktionsheld 84.171.92.139 12:30, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Yup, the whole toolserver is down for a little bit. [51] --Interiot 13:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
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