Talk:Internet pornography

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[edit] Neutrality

I don't think this is neutral.

To take the most obvious example, in paragraph 1, you say certain types of pornography are 'sick' and 'totally unacceptable'. This is definitely opinion, even if it is a very common opinion, and should be marked as such. Moreover, a good many people think that many of the other forms of pornography that you mention are sick and totally unacceptable.


Seems a good point to me. How's that?

Fonzy - All pornography is illegal somewhere; child porn is probably legal in some places. Therefore, singling out child porn as "illegal" is distinctly parochial. - Khendon

I do not believe that child porn is legal anywhere. Our children are children, they do not become a sexual beeing until their age of puberty. So, show me a country where the children enters the age of puberty earlier than other countries and you have a point.

What matters here is not your "common sense" reasoning, but what is considered legal or not in jurisdictions that may have standards vastly different from the Western world.

I know pornoraghy is illegal some where. But i dont know anywhere where child pornography is legal. -fonzy. But if it is legal somewhere(which i doubt) its illegal everywhere else. - fonzy


This page seems to be somewhat redundant. The pornography article covers most of this material. If there are no objections, I'll integrate any new material here with that article. --Stephen Gilbert 13:28 Sep 22, 2002 (UTC)


An 86 year old man I'm doing a film on told us about when he first had sex, at age 10. How's that for child pornography? Oh yeh, that would put it at 1926. Another blow to the reactionaries.  :-P --KQ

He seems to be an early adopter, and you know very well that is not what this discussion is about.

No. I did not know that, and I did think it relevant. You would do well not to make assumptions about what people do and do not know.
My point is: he wanted to have sex, he had sex. To him, it was no big deal. We may find it disgusting but he wouldn't care. In other words, leave your value judgments out of the article.  :-) Best, --KQ
But how's he doing now, sexwise?

Removed ....

Nowadays, few other Internet industries can say they pull the kind of money that Internet pornography pulls every year.

Internet pornography has undergone the same sort of shakeup as other businesses. There really are relatively few sites that are actually making money.


What does this mean?

"Internet pornography is distributed primarily via websites through USENET."

The whole first paragraph is redundant and uninformative and the article as whole seems to be defensive and somewhat POV. Ortolan88


I removed the italicized text, inserted by 61.9.192.173:

Today there are many forms of internet pornography available, though these should not be made available to children, and adult supervision must be maintained:

While this is certainly a common enough point of view, Wikipedia does not have an opinion on the matter. We can state (as is elsewhere stated in the article) that many people do have beliefs about protecting children from pornography, but we should always be careful to ascribe those beliefs to some person rather than expressing them in Wikipedia's own voice. --FOo 22:37 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)


On the proposed list of pornographic websites: I am not sure that Wikipedia is capable of sustaining such a list without causing huge problems. First, it would be an open invitation to spammers. Second, there are hundreds of thousands of pornographic Web sites if the term is construed widely, and the list changes too rapidly for Wikipedia to keep up. Third, even a list of "important" pornographic Web sites would be filled with points of massive contention, since nobody can be expected to agree on what is or isn't pornography. —FOo 14:00, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Limiting it to porn sites with Wikipedia articles might help. Or lead to a spate of articles about porn sites... —tregoweth 15:36, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] My complete rewrite of this article

I have completed a complete rewrite of this article though it could possibly use further improvement. I'm also working on a seperate article to discuss the legal issues related to internet pornography in different contries so as to keep this article at a managable length. I kept a brief summery of the legal situation though with a link to the posted article. --Cab88 09:09, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Article needs pictures!

Seriously. Even after the current rewrite it looks too dowdy without illustrations. Surely there must be a way to provide some? Mareklug talk 09:12, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

I added some screenshot pictures appropriate for use in this article. --Cab88 11:23, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures are offensive..

I don't think the pictures should be included here - especially the first one. I imagine that an encyclopedia would want to be informative about internet porn, but the picture is a little much. I am deleting it... The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.231.165.220 (talk • contribs) 22:42, 19 November 2005.

Sorry ... Wikipedia is not censored. If you're looking for a place where it's acceptable to censor information because you are offended by it, then you're looking for a different encyclopedia project. --FOo 05:20, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Dude,you are looking at an article of an adult website...so what would you expect,Donald Duck serenading Barbie. Sugreev2001 13:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phishing scam

I remember reading in PC Answers once that at one time the most common form of Internet fraud consisted of bogus pornographic websites which asked for credit card details, supposedly as proof of age. Does anyone here know more about this? GCarty 15:34, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Too defensive

I'm editing the following section under "Legal status":

The concern over internet pornography is largely the result of activists and politicians who have expressed concern of the easy availability of pornography, especially by minors. This has led to a variety of attempts to restrict children’s access to internet porn such as the Communications Decency Act, many of which have either been ruled unconstitutional by the US Supreme Court or are currently tied up in court.

This section sounds like thinly-veiled POV--first arguing without support that "the concern over internet pornography" really is mostly just activists and politicians, then generally implying (with no details) that attempts to restrict it have failed or are hopeless. It also seems unduly preoccupied with the U.S. --Mr. Billion 09:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mention of BBSes

Hi-

There's a mention (in the History section) of how porn was distributed over BBSes. While this is most definately true, BBSes are NOT the Internet in any way, shape or form (hmm, was FidoNet integrated with a few apps that ran on the 'net?). I'm also very unsure about whether or not people were sharing stuff on Usenet before BBSes.

Stilroc 05:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


Those are good points. I've made some corrections to the article. KarlBunker 10:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for removing that piece of info without even discussing it. I'll try to keep up with any relevant discussions in case of future edits. -FrostyBytes 22:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change title?

As mentioned above, BBSes are not the Internet. Should the title for this article not be "Online pornography"? 91.64.30.17 16:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Since BBS's are no longer a major player, I think the title "Internet pornography" best reflects the current situation. Including mention of BBS's makes sense as a part of the history, but I don't think that mention warrants changing the name of the article. In any case, "Online pornography" currently redirects to this article. KarlBunker 16:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)