Talk:International Harvester Scout
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The Scout line included four wheel drive wagons, what we call SUVs today, as well. It should also be noted that they were produced until at LEAST 1980.
Their Rally S line included a 345 cubic inch, 300+ ft/lb of torque engine with a Holley 4-barrel, a Torqueflite transmission, and positive traction rear diff.
- Since all the Scout line was four wheel drive, I'm assuming you mean the four wheel drive, four door Travelall which, while somewhat cosmetically similar to the Scout II, was not an actual Scout. -- Lost Cosmonaut 01:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- I suggest adding an info box (for quick reference) somewhere on the page like most other vehicle articles. This table would have all the vital specs. See Land Rover Range Rover Classic for an example of such.
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[edit] First SUV?
Maybe, maybe not. Partly it depends on how you define SUV. The Jeep CJ series predates the Scout, as does the Chevrolet Suburban. --Badger151 20:41, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
The first SUV would be International's Auto Buggy and Auto Wagon vehicles produced from 1907 to 1915. They had tall wheels to negogiate the rugged rural roads. The Auto Wagon also had a removable rear seat in the cargo area. It could be used as a people carrier or a cargo carrier. Farmers hauled seed during the week and then took the family to church on Sunday using the same vehicle. Sounds like a SUV, doesn't it?
SUV is short for sport utility vehicle. Originally vehicles such as the Chevy Suburban or International Travelall were not considered SUV's. They might have the "utility", but their large size did not fit the defination of "sport." As two more decades progressed, magazine writers began to include the Suburban and Travelall as "SUV's", too.
International Scout's claim to fame is that it broke into a totally new market that no other vehicle had ever entered. The Jeep CJ was mainly used for work only, but the Scout could be used to plow snow and yet the wife could feel comfortable getting groceries with it, too. This new market even surprised International and it became its best selling vehicle. The sales caught the attention of other auto makers who all came out with vehicles to compete in the Scout market. Ford basically copied the Scout with the Bronco in 1966. Jeep introduced the Comando and the Cherokee. Chevy and GMC brought to market the Blazer and Jimmy. Eventually Dodge and Plymouth had the Ramcharger. The Scout started a whole new market of vehicles that America still thrives upon today.
- Before believing the above, consider that Willys Jeep introduced a 4x4 station wagon in 1946. That was the vehicle that really laid the groundwork for vehicles like the Scout...
[edit] Image
I guess this used to be an image of the first design. I like the idea of having it in the article, but for the moment the link seems to be broken or the file missing; I've pulled it from the article and stuck it here for safekeeping, in the hopes that it can be reattached. --Badger151 07:33, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 7" wheels
I read this as meaning wheels with a 7" diameter, which seems peculiar. What does the 7" refer to? --Badger151 17:51, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sherman Balch
Can someone confirm that this driver was driving a Scout when he had the wins mentioed in the article? --Badger151 18:03, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Line Setting Ticket
was this specific to Scouts? Or did IH also use them on their trucks? --Badger151 18:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] End of the Scout
Anyone know why IH stopped making the Scout? That'd be an intresting addition to the article. --Badger151 18:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
