Talk:International Commission of Control and Supervision

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[edit] Ringma's principle

Please explain why this content is relevant to this article: [1]. It appears to be about one person who worked in relation to the ICCS, and some saying of his. As such, it doesn't appear to be relevant or add anything of encyclopedic value to this article. --MichaelZimmer (talk) 16:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, and in addition, if you note the user name of the author, appears to violate WP:AUTO and WP:VANITY. --MCB 17:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ringma's Principle

Please forgive us - we are new to Wikipedia and my Dad is new to computers generally. I had not noticed the discussion pages and am only beginning to familiarise myself with the edit functions, and only to help out Dad. I have told Dad a bit about how this is working and why his article was so edited by you. I have asked him to justify his addition to "his" article on the ICCS and either he or I will post an answer to your query. He is presently writing an entire book on his involvement in Vietnam in 1973 so I know his knowledge is thorough. We will get back to you.JuliaR 12:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll post some helpful policy links to your talk page (User talk:JuliaR). --MichaelZimmer (talk) 00:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The rationale for Ringma's Principle

The following is from an email sent by Bob Ringma to me, as he could not figure out how to add it to the discussion:

"Canada's Department of National Defence, Directorate of History and Heritage (DHH), is producing a book to be the official history of the Canadian involvement with the ICCS in 1973. Since I was the Deputy Chief of Staff (Support) for the Military Component of the Canadian Delegation I was asked to be a member of an editorial committee to assist DHH. Our committee is headed by LGen Duncan McAlpine, who as a MGen, was our Commander in Vietnam in 1973. The DHH principals responsible for the book are Dr. John MacFarlane and Dr. Charles Rheaume, addresses are available for both. One of the sources of material for the book are recollections from Canadian servicemen who served with the Commission. These have been solicited by DHH and the replies passed to our committee for our observations. In reviewing the material it was clear that a number of persons remembered "Ringma's Principle" and commented on it. It has been published in various reports including a book of photos issued to all members of the delegation after July 1973. One of the replies from a former member quoted the Principle from a book entitled "Hearts and Hockey Cards" being written by his daughter Véronique Dorais. "Ringma's Principle" therefore is a fact of life. I am not trying to insert it for egotistical purposes. Just as I wrote the "stub " on the ICCS aiming for accuracy, I propose inserting the principle because it is a fact, has some humour, and does explain some of the frustration experienced by our crew when in Vietnam in 1973. I propose inserting other articles as we progress with our job of assisting DHH in the editing process. I have in mind one particularly interesting piece written by a member of the Prisoners of War exchange team. I believe that the history, and whatever portions of it Wikipedia will contain, would be incomplete without the Principle and without the first hand reminiscences of some of our members. I would be pleased to answer any questions you may have and thank my daughter Julia for her help as a go-between with Wikipedia."

Assisted by JuliaR 21:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)