Template talk:Infobox Place Ireland

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Contents

[edit] Usage

[edit] Proviences

Munster
Cúige Mumhan
Flag of Munster
Location
centerMap highlighting Munster
Statistics
Area: 24,607.52
Population (2002) 1,100,614
{{Infobox Place Ireland
| name          = Munster
| gaeilge       = Cúige Mumhan
| flag image    = Real Munster Flag.gif
| map image     = IrelandMunster.png
| area          = 24,607.52
| population    = 1,100,614
| census yr     = 2002
}}


[edit] Counties

[edit] Republic of Ireland

County Leitrim
Contae Liatroma
Image:LMwik.PNG
Location
centerMap highlighting County Leitrim
Statistics
Province: Connacht
County Town: Carrick-on-Shannon
Code: LM
Area: 1,588 km²
Population (2002) 25,799
Website: www.leitrimcoco.ie
{{Infobox Place Ireland
| name        = County Leitrim
| gaeilge     = Contae Liatroma
| crest image = LMwik.PNG
| map image   = IrelandLeitrim.png
| area        = 1,588 km²
| county town = [[Carrick-on-Shannon]]
| code        = LM
| population  = 25,799
| census yr   = 2002
| province    = Connacht
| web         = www.leitrimcoco.ie
}}


[edit] Northern Ireland

County Armagh
Contae Ard Mhacha
Location
centerMap highlighting County Armagh
Statistics
Province: Ulster
County Town: Armagh
Area: 1,254 km²
Population (est.) 141,000
{{Infobox Place Ireland
| name        = County Armagh
| gaeilge     = Contae Ard Mhacha
| crest image = 
| map image   = NorthernIrelandArmagh.png
| area        = 1,254 km²
| county town = [[Armagh]]
| population  = 141,000
| census yr   = est.
| province    = Ulster
}}


[edit] Cities

[edit] Republic of Ireland

Galway
Gaillimh
Coat of arms of Galway
Laudatio Ejus Manet In Seculum Seculi
"Praise remains for ever"
Location
Location of Galway
centerMap highlighting Galway
WGS-84 (GPS) Coordinates:
53.4667° N 09.1000° W
Statistics
Province: Connacht
County: Galway
Area: 1,837 km²
Population (2002)
 - Proper
 - Environs
 
 65,832
 331
Website: www.galwaycity.ie
{{Infobox Place Ireland
| name        = Galway
| gaeilge     = Gaillimh
| crest image = Galway crest.png
| motto       = Laudatio Ejus Manet In Seculum Seculi <br> "Praise remains for ever"
| map image   = Ireland map County Galway.png
| pin coords  = left: 133px; top: 54px
| north coord = 53.4667
| west coord  = 09.1000
| area        = 1,837 km²
| county      = [[County Galway|Galway]]
| population  = 65,832 | environs = 331
| census yr   = 2002
| province    = Connacht
| web         = www.galwaycity.ie
}}


[edit] Northern Ireland

Lisburn
Lios na gCearrbhach
Coat of arms of Lisburn
Ex Ignr Resrugam
"I will arise out of the fire"
Location
Location of Lisburn
centerMap highlighting Lisburn
WGS-84 (GPS) Coordinates:
54.512° N 6.031° W
Statistics
Province: Ulster
County: County Antrim &
County Down
District: Lisburn
Area:  ? km²
Population (2001) 71,465
Website: www.lisburn.com
{{Infobox Place Ireland
| name        = Lisburn
| gaeilge     = Lios na gCearrbhach
| crest image = LisburnCityCrest.jpg
| motto       = Ex Ignr Resrugam <br> "I will arise out of the fire"
| map image   = NorthernIrelandLisburn.png
| pin coords  = left: 180px; top: 90px
| north coord = 54.512
| west coord  = 6.031
| area        = ? km²
| province    = Ulster
| county      = [[County Antrim]] & <br>[[County Down]]
| NI district = [[Lisburn City Council|Lisburn]]
| population  = 71,465
| census yr   = 2001
| web         = www.lisburn.com
}}


[edit] Towns, Villages, ect

[edit] Republic of Ireland

Ballina
Béal an Átha
Coat of arms of Ballina
Location
Location of Ballina
centerMap highlighting Ballina
WGS-84 (GPS) Coordinates:
54.1167° N 9.1667° W
Irish Grid Reference
G240192
Statistics
Province: Munster
County: County Mayo
Elevation: 7 m
Population (2002)
 - Town:
 - Rural:
 
9,478 
1,087
{{Infobox Place Ireland
| name        = Ballina
| gaeilge     = Béal an Átha
| crest image = Ballina crest.png
| motto       = 
| map image   = Ireland map County Mayo Magnified.png
| pin coords  = left: 90px; top: 37px
| north coord = 54.1167
| west coord  = 9.1667
| irish grid  = G240192
| area        = 
| elevation   = 7 m
| province    = Munster
| county      = [[County Mayo]]
| town pop    = 9,478
| rural pop   = 1,087
| census yr   = 2002
| web         = 
}}


[edit] Northern Ireland

Ballynahinch
Droichead na Banna
Image:Banbridgearms.PNG
Location
Location of Ballynahinch
centerMap highlighting Ballynahinch
WGS-84 (GPS) Coordinates:
54.343° N 6.26° W
Statistics
Province: Ulster
County: County Down
District: Banbridge District
Population (2001) 14,744
{{Infobox Place Ireland
| name        = Ballynahinch
| gaeilge     = Droichead na Banna
| crest image = Banbridgearms.PNG
| motto       = 
| map image   = NorthernIrelandBanbridge.png
| pin coords  = left: 139px; top: 113px
| north coord = 54.343
| west coord  = 6.26
| area        = 
| elevation   = 
| province    = Ulster
| county      = [[County Down]]
| NI district = [[Banbridge District Council|Banbridge District]]
| population  = 14,744
| census yr   = 2001
| web         = 
}}


[edit] Discussion

Note: Additional discussion concerning this infobox may be see an the Irish Wikipedians' notice board and its archives.

[edit] pin coords

It looks to me as if the pin coords (used for Galway and Lisburn above) produce different results with different skins.--Henrygb 10:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for bring it up, i was not aware of the problem, but i have an idea of what the cause and soultion is,. The problem is less with the pinn cord coding, at least that i can see, and more with CSS as it seems that the different skins render the width of the box differently, which has a major effect on where the pin cord is displayed. I'll put in a fix and try to see what happens. Also the ones on this page at the moment do not display correclty in default skin, due to the fact that i changed the width of the box over the weekend, and havnt changed the display on here. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 04:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
The problem with the skins should now be fixed, tested and works on all versions under the preferences. I am guessing it was a css issue, apparently the various skins interpret the "em" measurement differently though for "px" the result was the same. Their is though 2 issues that are still current, both have to do with rendering in a mozilla typer browser vs IE. Their is a "thicker" border on mozilla then their is on IE, this is a css/IE issue that is out of my control. The other problem is that the locater dot will on some, though currently for this template is used for this would only effect Northern Ireland Maps, maps will be located about 2px below what it would be on mozilla, apparently this is not an isolated issue, as i have seen the same effect happen on other templates using a similar system. If i can fix the problem i will implement a fix. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:07, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm working on cleaning up the code behind this template to fix this problem and make it easier to read and modify. ~MDD4696 02:04, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Fixed the marker location bug, tested in FF 1.5.0.1, IE6 SP2, and OP 7.11. IE is so ridiculous sometimes. Apparently there is a bug in IE where it uses the font-size property to set the height of very small DIVs [1]. The reason that the marker was off was because it was forcing the marker's containing DIV to be 20px or so, and then vertically centering the marker in that. The marker is still 1px furthur to the right in IE and OP than it is in FF, but it's hardly noticeable. I'm not sure quite why that is; it might be due to misinterpretation of the box model. ~MDD4696 23:41, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] County Colours

Any plans to add a section for county colours like the Asturian wikipedia? theKeith 20:00, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah i notcied that, some one else uses it as well. My issues with it is how offical are those flags, and the colours. I have allways had the imoression that they are more tradational then anything. I'll do some research and put out some feelers and see what i can coume up with. Even if a flag were to be added i would not be thrilled about using the one on their article. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:21, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The following is interesting Ireland: county colours, it basically says they are unofficial and often not supported outside the nationalist community - so would this be an issue? See also Flags of Ireland - counties.
Note: both websites include material by Vincent Morley - the latter is wholly his own. Djegan 12:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Intresting, i allwas out the colours as having more towrds the county teams, i.e.GAA, then offical ststus in the county then. As for it being an issue, i could see it as such espically withthe counties in the north, considering that the colours would have no official status withthe exception of the county GAA bords. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding infobox to town articles - Can you help with town crests or mottos?

I'm seeing many town articles don't have an infobox even in the top 100, so I am going through them to update to the new infobox or adding one as appropriate and am up to #30.

However, I notice that few towns have either crests or mottos. Does anyone know where to find them and would like to help? I have enough to do with finding the longitude and latitude and grid references as well as elevations but seem to be able to confirm those except it requires time to get them right. I presume there is no easy way to make these additions except manually. ww2censor 20:25, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah i was planning on filling in the gaps but i put it on hiatus due t o an issue of pouplation information in these artciles and how it would be diplayed in the infobox. As for crest and mottos i would say the best place to statrt is on on the town website, if they have one, or somethimes you might find it on the county site, but i would not expect to come across them frequenly, As for the longitude and latitude, i would use http://www.getty.edu/research/conducting_research/vocabularies/tgn/ , so far i have had a good experince with the website over things like multimap, which has a tendency of not getting the cords right, i dont know what to tell you about elevations, for grid refrences i use the UK OSI site, but the irish grid refrenc is supposed to change eventually (key word eventually). Umm yeah so far it's all manually, if you could automate it it would be grand but becides figuring out all of the infoi that you need to get for each article you also need to decide on pin pos as it differs for each article. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 23:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, any of the websites with crests and motto will have since been integrated into wikipedia so any additionally crests and mottos will have to be sourced on individual websites. However two good websites include [2] and [3] may give some ideas. Djegan 18:56, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I am always leary about the heardilic sites though, tha accuracy of the inamges is always in question, though the second site looks like a good call. I have come across several seals that are on the town sites, mostily in Kildare, that have not ben uploaded, but i did not upload then do to eh fact of the size of the image would not mak it worthwhile to have displayed on the page. Anyway i dont think we should hold back about adding the boxes if their is no seal, just having the map on the page via the infobox adds to the article. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 04:29, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Northern Ireland

A template has been developed that covers England, Scotland and Wales. It could be extended to cover Northern Ireland if there is a desire to do so. Please comment here if you have an opinion on this: Template_talk:Infobox_UK_place#Northern_Ireland Thanks. MRSCTalk 17:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

The new maps are greatly inferior, in my view. Compare existing (left) and proposed (right) below:
Lurgan
An Lorgain
Location
Location of Lurgan
centerMap highlighting Lurgan
WGS-84 (GPS) Coordinates:
54.441° N 6.356° W
Statistics
Province: Ulster
County: County Armagh
District: Craigavon Borough
UK Parliament: Upper Bann
European Parliament: Northern Ireland
Dialling Code: 028, +44 28
Post Town: Craigavon
Postal District(s): BT64-67
Population (est) 24,000
Lurgan
An Lorgain

Coordinates: 54.441° N 6.356° W

Infobox Place Ireland (Northern Ireland)
Infobox Place Ireland
Population 24,000 (est)
Irish grid reference J080585
 - Belfast 19 miles
District Craigavon Borough
County County Armagh
Constituent country Northern Ireland
Sovereign state United Kingdom
Post town CRAIGAVON
Postcode district BT64-67
Dial code 028 38
Police Northern Ireland
Fire Northern Ireland
Ambulance Northern Ireland
UK Parliament Upper Bann
European Parliament Northern Ireland
List of places: UKNorthern IrelandCounty Armagh

Is there any way the old maps can be incorporated into the proposed template? -- Picapica 09:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I've created a newer map to fit this purpose (found here). I think it is more suitable for the infobox than either of the above. It may, however, require subdivision lines (for either countys or districts) to be added. Jhamez84 13:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)