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Contents 1 Examples 1.1 Example 1 1.2 Example 2 2 Excellent! 3 Template:Coor at dms 4 Google maps added to template 5 Categorization 6 Duplicate Template

[edit] Examples

Two examples from actual articles are below.

[edit] Example 1

{{Infobox Mountain
| Name = K2
| Photo = K2-big.jpg
| Caption = K2 in Summer
| Elevation = 8,611 metres (28,251 feet)<br /><small>[[Eight-thousander|Ranked 2nd]]</small>
| Location = [[Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County]], [[Xinjiang]], [[China]]/[[Northern Areas, Pakistan|Northern Areas of Pakistan]]
| Range = [[Karakoram]]
| Prominence = 4,017 metres
| Coordinates = {{coor dm|35|53|N|76|31|E|type:mountain}}
| Type = 
| Age = 
| Last eruption = 
| First ascent = [[July 31]] [[1954]] by Lacedelli & Compagnoni
| Easiest route = rock/snow/ice climb
| Grid_ref_uk = 
| Grid_ref_ireland = 
| Listing = 
| Translation = 
| Language = 
| Pronunciation = 
}}

K2
K2 in Summer
Elevation	8,611 metres (28,251 feet) Ranked 2nd
Location	Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County, Xinjiang, China/Northern Areas of Pakistan
Range	Karakoram
Prominence	4,017 metres
Coordinates	35°53′N 76°31′E
First ascent	July 31, 1954 by Lacedelli & Compagnoni
Easiest route	rock/snow/ice climb

[edit] Example 2

{{Infobox Mountain
| Name = Mount Shasta
| Photo = Mt_Shasta_from_the_northwest-750px.JPG
| Caption = Mount Shasta and Shastina from the Butte Valley (North-East)
| Elevation = 14,179 ft (4,322 m)
| Location = [[California]], [[United States|USA]]
| Range = [[Cascade Range|Cascades]]
| Prominence = 
| Coordinates = 
| Topographic map = [[USGS]] Mount Shasta
| Type = [[Composite volcano]]
| Age = <593 Kyr
| Last eruption = [[1786]]
| First ascent = [[1854]] by E.D. Pearce and party
| Easiest route = rock/ice
| Grid_ref_uk = 
| Grid_ref_ireland = 
| Listing = 
| Translation = 
| Language = 
| Pronunciation = 
}}

Mount Shasta
Mount Shasta and Shastina from the Butte Valley (North-East)
Elevation	14,179 ft (4,322 m)
Location	California, USA
Range	Cascades
Topo map	USGS Mount Shasta
Type	Composite volcano
Age of rock	<593 Kyr
Last eruption	1786
First ascent	1854 by E.D. Pearce and party
Easiest route	rock/ice

[edit] Excellent!

Just to say I think this template is a worthy successor to {{Mtnbox}} – thank you! I've taken the liberty of rearranging the above as the templates and code clashed on my display. As noted in the article history, I've also removed the colons as these become misaligned when the parameters that follow them wrap around. (Thanks to the color scheme, I also reckon they're unnecessary.)
Best wishes, David Kernow 17:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Coor at dms

By using these templates in the infobox, the coordinates get display with the article title as well, similar to many articles about towns and other places. Thus one might want to update (keeping the coordinates, obviously):

{{Coor dms}} => {{Coor at dms}}

{{Coor dm}} => {{Coor at dm}}

{{Coor d}} => {{Coor at d}}

Samples may be seen at: Krakatoa and Kangchenjunga -- User:Docu

In fact there is an easier way to do it, just adding the template twice to the infobox, as on Template:Infobox City Japan. As it's easy to undo, I'm implementing this change. -- User:Docu

Why the extra expression of the coordinates at the top of the article? —wwoods 05:18, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

It's the default location for coordinates of the article. Template:Coor title dms started in English language Wikipedia. -- User:Docu

So how do I turn it off? In my browser it shows up as the first paragraph of the article. Or, if there's no blank line after the infobox, in the first paragraph:

"Coordinates: 43°38′58″N, 71°54′51″W Mount Cardigan is a prominent bare-rock summit in the towns of Orange and Alexandria in..."

The coordinates are already in the infobox; there's no need for another coord link floating around the top of the article.

—wwoods 18:27, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with wwoods on this. It's just plain silly to have the same information displayed twice on the page. I do NOT recommend changing mountain articles to use the "at" template. RedWolf 22:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with wwoods and RedWolf --- it seems redundant and useless to me. hike395 05:46, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

There is no need to change the templates. The display at the default location doesn't require that. BTW which skin do you use? In Monobook, the display is correct. -- User:Docu

In Classic, it isn't. —wwoods 19:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

At MediaWiki_talk:Standard.css#Coordinates_in_article_heading, there is a fix for that skin. -- User:Docu

So what should be done with that, add it to the template?

—wwoods 07:43, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

It should be added to MediaWiki:Standard.css. That way it would fix all other coordinates that are currently misplaced in that skin. -- User:Docu

[edit] Google maps added to template

You can now get a template link to Google Maps using Google_map = 54.454000000,-3.21200000 Google_Name = Cader%20Idris

• • Remember to URL Encode the {{{Google_Name}}} Snozzer 10:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

• Don't you think you should have asked for discussion before adding these parameters? I'm not saying I would have objected but this template is used by thousands of pages. RedWolf 15:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

The existing template functionality has not been altered at all, perhaps I should have asked first yes, but no harm has been done as all the pages using the template will continue to operate without error "TheNose | Talk" 15:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, this gives undue prominence to a single map provider. It also adds no functionality, since a link to Google Maps (amongst others) is provided through the co-ordinates, or in the case of British hills, grid reference. I have reverted the template until consensus can be reached as to whether or not this feature should be added (as discussed with its implementor). This keeps the number of unnecessary edits to a minimum, as unrecognised fields in the template will simply be ignored and articles which have already been altered to take advantage will not need to be reverted individually. It will/would be easy to restore the feature if/when a consensus is reached. --Stemonitis 16:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I don't think we need this, as it duplicates info we already can access. Nationalparks 16:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

The info is not available clearly, the exisiting gbm4ibx external template is an absolute mess "TheNose | Talk" 10:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

A couple of points:

• Magnus' page is a quick hack to replace an older external page that went suddenly defunct. Magnus didn't implement the parsing of the 9th parameter, which could contain "region:UK" or "region:US" or "region:CH", and restrict the maps only to those that are applicable. It sounds like we should restore this feature.
• There is a way to reach a compromise here, which I think would make everyone happy, and also would be compatible with we are doing for US-ian mountains. On many mountain pages, we are using {{Geolinks-US-mountain}} in the external links section. That highlights specific external map providers that are particularly useful for mountains, calling them with the best parameters for mountains. This way, the infobox can be neutral with respect to map providers, and explicit links to external providers can stay in external links (where they belong). I would suggest that we start {{Geolinks-UK-mountain}} (and {{Geolinks-IE-mountain}}) to be analogous, and the Wikipedia:WikiProject British hills participants could design it to be best for their hills.

hike395 10:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

A most excellent compromise and plan, I fully agree "TheNose | Talk" 11:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Snozzer! I see you started the template, I just copied the Google Maps link over from {{Geolinks-US-mountain}}. Did you want to put this on the top 25 UK peaks? hike395 11:40, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

No Problem, I can work through and do the top 25 "TheNose | Talk" 12:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

I certainly think the {{Geolinks-UK-mountain}} template is an improvement over the Infobox entry, but as we've already got the {{gbm4ibx}} template, and its use is widespread, wouldn't it be better to improve that rather than introduce a new template? The {{gbm4ibx}} template has the advantage of being less obtrusive and can be used inline in an article, for example when discussion various features on a mountain. — ras52 12:56, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categorization

Please remove Category:Coordinates templates; this template isn't a coordinate template. Thanks. Mike Peel 20:02, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. --Ligulem 00:11, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Mike Peel 10:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Duplicate Template

There appears to be a duplicate/parallel template to this one: Template:Geobox Mountain. It is only used in a handful of places, but appears to have some features superior to Template:Infobox Mountain.

Which one should be used? Should we merge it's features into Template:Infobox Mountain? --Ozhiker 15:18, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

This has been discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains#Template --- this one is the established template, and the consensus seems to be to keep using this one. I would bring any discussion up at that Talk page. Thanks! hike395 02:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)