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[edit] Aliases Field

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I say we take the alias catagory off the character templates at all. Doesn't really apply to Avatar too much... -Dylan0513 10:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

All they seem to do is cause arguments. I nominate it be taken off too. H2P (Yell at me for what I've done) 14:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I've got no problem with it so long as I don't start seeing "The Blind Bandit", "The Blue Spirit" or "The Dragon of the West" being listed under their character's "Position" category, which was what was happening before "Aliases" was added. Sage of Ice 19:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I vote that it be taken off. It's really not that important, and if you want the aliases in there so badly, we can stick them in the Trivia. Raven23 20:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

We're dealing with a visual medium here, and appearances do matter. Currently, listing everything makes the infobox look too cluttered. Personally, I still say I'd prefer to list the more significant aliases but leave off the minor ones, but since that's apparently unacceptable for some editors, I'd rather just remove the thing all together.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 21:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The problem with keeping only the significant ones is that not everyone can agree on whether or not an alias is significant. It's not worth the argument, I don't think. Raven23 13:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Appearences are everything. But cheap one-liners aside there are some aspects that apply to a show more than others and due to its particular execution, aliases and aren't all that prominant in this show. Though it would be a shame to get rid of Zuko's Blue Spirit (as plenty though it would never resurface on its first occassion and like several other things, the creators probably didn't originally plan for it to) or Iroh's Dragon of the West, as we're about to go into a book called "fire". So basically it'd be nice to keep those two and do away with the rest. ~Father's Wish 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Fyre:
If you refer to me, then you have your facts mixed. I told you I would be fine with "Significant Aliases" being used instead of just plain "Aliases". In fact I was the one who suggested the whole idea in the first place, you just replaced "Important" with "Significant". Considering how I was the only other editor on that topic that discussed that with you, I do not know where you got the slanderous thought that an idea I myself suggested is "unacceptable" to me. You may wish to review what I typed before proceeding with allegations.
Father's Wish:
Keeping some aliases over others is a double standard that is only acceptable if we use the "Significant Aliases" solution that I have already proposed before and which Fyre somehow thinks I am against. Otherwise, all aliases must go if the whole category on the infobox goes.
And like I said before, if it's not under some form of "Alias" category on the infobox, there is no place for "Blue Spirit" or "Dragon of the West" or whatnot on anything except under the trivia section or somehow entwined in the stories section. They are not a "Position". Sage of Ice 04:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I still really just don't agree with this idea that saying just aliases automatically means we MUST list every single one, but I think we just have the agree to disagree on that one. Anyway, I don't think its necessary, but I'm willing to add the word "significant" if that's where the consensus goes.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
It could be "Notable Aliases" if you prefer... it's what the comic book pages do. Even then, they still list some pretty unimportant aliases anyway (such as "Mr. Friese" for Iceman). Doesn't seem to be a problem there and they have loads of high-traffic pages.
I stand by the notion that you presented simply because I don't like to omit stuff unless there is an imposed limitation. "Notable" or "Significant" would thus create that limitation. It creates a visible standard which explains why some aliases aren't present. That choice is acceptable to me. Omitting an alias from simply the "Aliases" field makes it seem like it's a refusal of the fact, and that's something I just don't support. Adding on "Notable" or "Significant" just categorizes the fact in order to explain the omission. So that's where I'm coming from. Sage of Ice 02:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
If having an alias section means putting what were essentially one-time jokes such as "Pipinpadalopsicopolous" on a character's overview, I'm entirely against them. Even if it wasn't a joke to the gang, a name like that... just looks wrong and unencyclopedaic in an overview template. - Joshua368 22:13, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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