Talk:India/Archive 9
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Military of India
I think its not a bad idea to mention a few lines on the Indian military in the Government section. --{{IncMan|talk}} 21:09, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Holidays
I think that the Holidays list be annual and updated anually since the dates change annually. I have also added this holi image.
--Electron Kid 02:08, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Pronounciation of Bharat
- IPA: bɦəːɾət̪h OR
- Dictionary: bhα:rət
=Nichalp «Talk»= 11:28, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Who is Kumar Kaushik?
Some one just added Kumar Kaushik to the India article. But who is he? I did a google search and have not yet found him. Please add a reference about him. -- Ganeshk 21:44, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Indian Literature
An anon added that Indian literature is the oldest in the world. I have some doubts about that, so far as I can remember, the Epic of Gilgamesh is from 2100 BC. Indian literature may be "one of the oldest", but it is certainly not "the" oldest. Thanks. --Ragib 21:58, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Northeast India
I think we should find a picture of a tribal dance from either Nagaland, Manipur, or Mizoram. It will show some unexpected diversity in India.
- I fully agree. I've also asked on a Nagaland site for a free image, but unfortunately as with all India-related sites we get a 'no response'. =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:58, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Culture
"A sizeable number of Hindus (almost entirely in the cities) also eat beef, though not so openly" - I request you to remove 'almost entirely in the cities' from the above sentence as this is not true. People generally relish Chicken than beaf in cities.Subramanya
How about some description of India's rich religious traditions? It seems strange to me that this is not really mentioned in the article. Why demote India's greatest treasure to some sub-section of the culture article. 12:25, 29 November 2005
- Its not strange. Its a summary of India's culture. You can add it to Culture of India. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:32, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
History of India link
I removed this link from the top section, but didn't transfer it to external links because I'm not sure how appropriate it is. It seems to be more focused on Pakistan history with some coverage of the surrounding countries. Furthermore, I'd like someone with more knowledge of the region to review it for political agendas. Jasmol 17:49, 18 November 2005 (UTC) [1]
Fauna and flora of India
This article needs more work. Please feel free to improve on it and add to article. Shyamal 11:38, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Please direct such issues to Wikipedia talk:Notice board for India-related topics. This page is the India article only. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:26, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant, a section on the same could be added to the India article. Shyamal 03:34, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Bhārat Ganarājya
Why is there a final 'a' in "Ganarājy" and not "Bhārat"? Should it not be "Bhārata Gaṇarājya"? Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 23:23, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- My browser is picking up an unrecognized character ṇ between the "Bhārata Ga" and the "arājya". This may have been something done in cutting and pasting. --G. Moore 23:39, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Satyamev Jayate
- In the article, Meaning of this statement is written as written as "Truth Alone Triumphs"
I think It should be "Truth only Triumphs" Does anyone object?? - Shilpa Choudhari
The Bengal Famine of 1769-1773 and the great Calamity period.
In 1757 the troops of the the British East India Company seized Bengal and plundered the Bengali treasure. The British East India Company monopolized the trade of Bengal. The Bengali craftsmen were inevitably fixed at foreign posts of the Company, where they were obliged to render their labor at minimal compensation while their collective tax burden increased harshly. The result was the famine of 1769 to 1773 in which 10 million Bengalis died, followed almost a century later by the catastrophic Great Calamity period, resulting in part from an extension of similar policies, in which up to 40 million Indians perished from famine amidst the collapse of India's native industries and skilled workforce.
That is true History. Don't rv Ben-Velvel 12:47, 2 December 2005, St.Petersburg (UTC)
- Did you read this above: All sections are a summary of more detailed articles. If you find any points missing, please add it in the section's main article rather than on this page to keep this page size within reasonable limits. So it will be reverted even if it is true. --Pamri • Talk 17:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Headers
Is there a good reason why the notes and references sections are at the end of the article instead of before External links, according to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings)? Just curious. --Jtalledo (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- The MoS is just a guideline, mentioning the preferred structure. References are usually at the end of any encyclopedia, so its ok here. =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:07, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Map of India is wrong!
This map incorrectly depicts the section of Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) as being part of Pakistan. It should be noted that The entire Jammu and Kasmir is a sovereign part of India. Please upload a map that correctly depicts the borders.
Thanks.
-From amitroy5 I have to agree with that. The map of India is done from an "American" perspective. We have to remember that America's view is also biased. I think that China and Pakistan occupied Kashmir should be labled as such. Also, the disputed mark for Arunachal Pradesh should be removed because no country other than China sees it that way. Plus, the whole state is under Indian rule. This article is about India, and it should be written from an Indian perspective, not in an American perspective. -From amitroy5
- No, it's written from a neutral perspective. Mark1 00:41, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
-From amitroy5 At lesat if we want to be neutral, we should clearly label on the map what is POK and China-occupied Kashmir. Also, for Arunachal Pradesh, that is Chinese perspective, not neutral.
- No. The Chinese perspective is that AP belongs to China, not that ownership is disputed. That ownership is disputed is a neutral fact. Mark1 00:50, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Please give any document that Arunachal Pradesh as a "disputed" territory is neutral. At least we shoud write on the map that it is Indian territory and claimed by China, not the other way around.
- A google search will throw up the relevent results. The map, supported by the footnotes and the appripriate colouring is perfectly fine. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:13, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
I have to agree that the map of Arunachal Pradesh should be marked as an integral part of India. Because the American perspective also shows the bias. This article is about India. We don't want to give the wrong perception that India took this land illegally from China, like some Chinese want the world to think. In fact, the Chinese claim that the India-China war for China was a defensive war to take back China's lost territories. I see that the views here are split. And I think I will change the map to reflect what is correct. And to show it in an Indian perspective, not an American perspective. Also, on Pakistan's page, Pakistan Occupied Kashmir is NOT marked as disputed. If that's the case, why can't India show what should be her's? Either Pakistan's page should be fixed or the Indian page will change.
- Please see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. It is not an American perspective. We have to mark all territories which are claimed. China regards AP as its soverign territory. We have to mark the region as Claimed by China, administered by India. It is an easily verifiable fact. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Please explain why Pakistan isn't marked then. That shows Wikipedia's bias towards India. Like I said, if someone doesn't change that, then I feel India should be marked the way India sees it. Not the way the United States does.
- Read this. Hopefully it will clear things up for you. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 20:52, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- The United States way? How about the way 'the rest of the world' does? The Pakistan article on wiki doesn't even have a proper map, just a grey-green map marking the location of the country in the region. The 'ethnic groups in Pakistan map' shows that the Kashmir border is disputed. --Soman 21:02, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Actually, Wikipedia is bias in the holocaust too. You mention that it should be neutral. Then it deserve mention about people who deny it. Just to take all sides into account. All of us agree that the holocaust happened, but we are taking a side. We aren't neutral.
Aryan Invasion
-Key parts of Indian history, the Aryan invasion, the invasion of the Persian Empire, and the arrival of Alexander the Great are left out of the history section. The Persian Empire isnt even in the History article. As key periods of India's history, these should be included. Every time I add them, they get erased. I dont care what some fucked up Hindu nationalists think, an Aryan invasion did happen, they did not brind Hinduism with them, they made it with the Dravidians once they settled down. Theres genetics to prove. Give me a break. -a historian
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- Please also see the top of this page
- Please see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. -- ran (talk) 03:04, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Agnotheism
What is the percentage of the non-religious of India's population?
--204.60.171.230 17:33, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Most people in India who do classify themselves as atheists generally put down the religion they were born to during the census. The exact breakup though is not available from the Indian census site. It seems to be classified under "others'. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:40, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
wiping with left
anyone know the significance in wiping their bum with their left hand only?
A Call To Arms
Friends, there is a swiss-german admin of wikipedia called Dbachmann User: Dbachmann who holds deep hatred of Hindus and Indians in his psyche, for reasons best known to him only. He has been vandalizing any good article edits which even mildly favorable to Hindus. In place of that he spreads lies like Bhagvad-Geeta was written after Jesus christ's times and so on.
He was unknown to most Indian wikipedians till he tried to mess up the Rajput article. A cursory glance of his contributions on wikipedia convinced us to report this guy to other admins. He deserves to be banned from wikipedia altogether, and at the very least his admin previledges needs to be revoked. We have filed a complained against him. Here is a link to that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Dbachmann_%282%29
All self respecting Indians are called upon to go to this link and sign the petition. A complete list of charges against this user can be found in the petition.
Thanks everybody Sisodia
Your A Call To Arms is chauvinistic, xenophobic and myopic. Most experienced Indian wikipedians know Dab pretty well, and has been helping out on the History of India for a long time now. Dab does provide verifible sources, so I doubt that that it is his personal research. Please familiarise yourself with the wikisystem, and get credible and updated sources before you launch an RFC. Regards =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:04, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:MalayalamScript
Template:MalayalamScript has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:MalayalamScript. Thank you. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 18:51, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Please place such requests in the Notice board for India-related topics. This page is for the India article only. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
