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removed

I've removed some sections as it is hard to maintain it. The contents are available here: /Archive 1. It will be nice to include it once again, provided this page is revived. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:30, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

Request for help with Vijayan, M. N

I am not sure I am right here but I am certain people here know more about the subject than me. I found the article Vijayan, M. N by accident and I don't know how to really improve it or whether it's an article that fits into Wikipedia at all. I'd appreciate it if someone knowledgeable could help out. --zerofoks 10:19, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Stats

Shouldn't we have some stats for the India article on Wikipedia like in the London portal? For example:

We could also have something like the number languages in which India has an article on Wikipedia. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 12:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Naming conventions on Indian people

Someone started wikipedia:naming conventions (people of India and Sri Lanka) - just notifying about it here. --Francis Schonken 08:43, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

User box : Indian universities

Just wanted to let everybody know that I have started a page Wikipedia:Userboxes/Education/India which could be used by students of Indian universities. --DuKot 02:42, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Political Integration of India

Hi All - I request your opinions and advice on elevating this article to FA status. I've started a peer review for it, and I need your help.

Thank you. Jai Sri Rama!

Rama's Arrow 01:03, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


India Potal In Wikinews

Just wanted to let everybody know that is a India Potal In Wikinews, a sister project of wikipedia. I invite you to Develop this potal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.65.123.54 (talk • contribs) .

Political integration of India's FAC

Hi All - This great article about perhaps the most important events in modern Indian history has been put up for FAC. I hope you will enjoy it, and I ask for your vote to make it an FA.

Jai Sri Rama! Rama's Arrow 04:09, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Lothal Peer Review

Hi All - I request your help in raising this article to FA-level - I've expanded this article about this great glory of ancient India, but I need your help to make this a world-class article. Jai Sri Rama! Rama's Arrow 21:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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Wikibooks About India

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These Wikibooks about India may be in various stages of development.


Other Indian wikibooks may be found at India Wikibooks

Naming convention for districts

Are there any naming conventions for districts and towns with the same name. Most districts in India has a town with the same name in it. For example there are two articles in wikipedia called Kottayam and Kottayam District. There is a lot of redundant information in these two pages. Is it necessary? I believe we should discuss and implement wikipedia guidelines for indian town and district articles. If this discussion has already taken place please direct me to the same. --DuKot 20:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I have cross-posted your message at WikiProject Indian districts, WikiProject Indian cities and Noticed board for India related topics . That should get a better response. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Response and further discussion here. - Ganeshk (talk) 23:01, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Featured Articles Display

Hi All - Please begin rotation of the FA you display here. We've got 26 Indian FAs now. Rama's Arrow 19:51, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Portal:India Selected articles

Hi all, I have created a stream which will be automatically changed the selected articles on the daily basis. In parallel i have created IP:SAC and IP:SARC. I want your active participation to chose a selected article on portal:India page in IP:SAC. Please do help. Thanks-- Shyam (T/C) 14:18, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

INCOTW Portal:India

The Indian Portal is this week's INCOTW. I have just made some changes to the layout and structure. The original color combination, I thought, was unappealing. I have added a color combination that symbolizes the country — I feel it is vibrant without being over-the-top gaudy. I have looked to the Australian Portal and War Portal for inspiration. If you would like to experiment with content and design, I have added a sandbox at User:AreJay/Portal. Please feel free to experiment. There is also a box-header template, for any modifications that you may want to make — User:AreJay/Portal/box-header. I will start working on reorganizing the layout of subpages. Hopefully, we can get this portal to featured status soon. AreJay 05:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Not only should the Australian Portal be an inspiration for colour, but also for layout and everything else. It is best for India to model on another country portal and the only one currently is the Australian one. DaGizzaChat © 07:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
What is the difference between Wikiprojects and tasks you can do? I think there is the need of merging both of them.-- Shyam (T/C) 15:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Wikiprojects helps bring standardization and structure to the articles that fall under those projects. Things you can do is much more diverse — it may be as simple as copyediting an article, adding a new article or removing POV from an article. They are fundamentally different. AreJay 15:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Colour

This might be my personal perception, but the new colour of the portal, and the high contrast between colours is not very soothing to the eyes. I don't like the contrast in Portal:Australia either, though I think it's still better, and I liked the previous colour of the India portal. Maybe it's just a matter of taste, so not a point for discussion. De gustibus non est disputandum. deeptrivia (talk) 19:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

That sentiment was actually echoed by other contributors as well, so I guess I will plan on changing it soon. Just as a thought, what colors would go well on this page? Are we sticking with colors that are identified with India (saffron, white, green) or will other colors be something that we should explore. I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. Thanks! AreJay 19:44, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, blue is another colour on the Indian flag, and also the colour of Indian cricket team! So don't rule it out :)) deeptrivia (talk) 19:46, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Suggestion taken; It's blue now (well, blueish I suppose). Does this look any better? AreJay 21:53, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Brilliant. I like it. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Awesome! deeptrivia (talk) 13:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Now since I'm seeing it in the true colour, is it possible to make it a little less green? =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Less green?? :-s AreJay 04:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Did you mean blue? Can you screenshot what you're seeing for me so I can make changes accordingly? Thanks AreJay 04:16, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
The background has a greenish tint, I doubt if our monitors will show the exact same colour, but here's the screenshot: Image:Indiaportal.jpg. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, yeah you're right, I can't tell the difference. I will make it less green that what it already is though, so hopefully that should help. AreJay 04:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Nominate already?

I was wondering if it would be a good idea to nominate the portal already for featured status. It's already looking comparable to featured portals, and since it is COTW, we would be able to quickly work on any comments/suggestions, so that all issues could be resolved by the end of the week. deeptrivia (talk) 04:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

The portal is in fiarly good shape currently. There arejust some minor issues that need to be dealt with (eg. The absurd specific cats in the categories section, like Indian Antartic Program!). Maybe a INCOTW section can be added on the right to balance up the columns. It would also be good if there was somthing "unique" about the Indian Portal. DaGizzaChat © 06:54, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Maybe an "upcoming events" section on the lines of "upcoming festivals" you added on Portal:Hinduism? We'll get many more ideas once we nominate. Can portals be put on peer review? deeptrivia (talk) 13:21, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
It's in good shape, however there is still a lot of "cleanup" type issues that we have to work through. The Noticeboard that links directly from the portal needs to be cleaned up and consolidated. There's information overflow in the newsboard and I feel it should be organized in a more user-friendly format. I went ahead yesterday and consolidated the "Collaborate" and "Members" section. Maybe we should expand on the "Conventions" (perhaps rename it to "Policies"?) and make it more readable so that new members reading the page are not overwhelmed with information. AreJay 15:15, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
After these issues are resolved, we should nominate this portal into featured status. --Siva1979Talk to me 15:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

States?

shouldnt there be a list of all the states and uts of india with the respective links?

I say each state make its own portal, and then we can link to the portal. thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK

Lead text

I think the lead text should be expanded to fill up the empty space. I was trying to do it myself, but probably I'm not very skillful in summarising. We should mention in the lead some more cultural stuff, for example, about the thousands of languages we have in India. I remember the India article of Dorling Kindersley's Children's Illustrated Encyclopedia starts with the line "A traveller in India would need to learn more than 1500 languages to communicate with everyone" (or something like that.) deeptrivia (talk) 15:55, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikiprojects Calendars and Holidays

Shouldn't they be removed from the list of wikiprojects? deeptrivia (talk) 15:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it is too brief. They can refer to Indian Holidays and Calendars but it still isn't that relevant. It would be like having a link to WikiProject Wine, just because some people in India drink wine! I'll be Bold enough to do it. DaGizzaChat © 19:39, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
I had originally put those two projects so that Indian editors could navigate and sign up for them. Our articles on festivals and holidays need attention. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I kind of understood that. Can we put these in "Things you can do" ? deeptrivia (talk) 13:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Asia

The Asia Portal has recently been created and seeks help from those who are interested. Thanks in advance, TBC??? ??? ??? 06:03, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow

The portal looks great and so does the news column. Someone who is regularly updating the news and current affairs may put important events such as India-US deal and Hutch Cup victory can put them on WP:ITN so that important news from India can make it to the main page as well, not just the portal. --Gurubrahma 05:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

While the Varanasi incident was unfortunate, it was heatneing to see User:Ganeshk and User:Kaushik twin working on the incident and getting it on the main page as well. --Gurubrahma 07:30, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Peer Review?

Can portals be peer reviewed? If not, can we conduct an informal review here and invite people to share their thoughts on what other changes, if any, are needed before we push this portal for featured status? I think it looks really good now, comparable to, if not better than some of the other featured portals. Let us try to incorporate any suggestions and recommendations until a new INCOTW is selected this Friday (3/10) and then nominate it for FA. Thoughts/Suggestions? Thanks, AreJay 16:50, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Asia

The Asia Portal has recently been created and seeks help from those who are interested. Thanks in advance, TBC??? ??? ??? 06:05, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Related Portals

It would be good if this section was added. It can include the portals of neghbouring countries, Asia and Kerala (as well as other Indian states once they are created). But currently the columns are evenly balanced so I don't know where to added such a section. It would make the portal one step closer to FA status. Please write your comments below. GizzaChat © 07:12, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

That is a good idea, in my opinion. Why not add it below, like the associated wikimedia box? Deepujoseph (talk • contribs)
I've done it, feel free to improve on it. GizzaChat © 06:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Looks good. But is it necessary to include Pakistan, China, etc., as well as Cricket to the list? Are they actually related portals? thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK
wrt the portal links, is it necessary to link to the Buddhism, Islam and Christianity portals if they are not India-specific? In other words, Christianity in India and Islam in India (portals that probably don't exist) could probably be linked here...I'm just not so sure about the general portals. The same deal with Cricket. I don't know much about the game, but I'm assuming that the portal deals with world Cricket and that the game's fans are all over the world. Shouldn't we be linking to India specific portals only? AreJay 16:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Buddhism originated from India even though not that many people follow the relgion any more in India. Islam has had a massive influence on India's history and current affairs (the Taj Mahal is an example of Muslim architecture). Roughly 10-15% of India are Muslims and the figure is rising dramatically (because of their high birth rates comparative to others and because of conversions). Similarly so with Christianity but to a lesser extent.
Pakistan, China and Bangladesh are all neighbouring countries of India. Pakistan and Bangladesh especially, despite the relgious differences, share the same culture and histry as India as well as speaking similar languages.
Cricket is the de facto national sport of India. In addition, more than half of the revenue for world cricket is supplied from India. The BCCI have huge control over the game internationally. Perhaps you don't know too much about the game because you are an NRI in the United States. It definitely impacts greatly on India though, even on international relations. India and Pakistan have become much more friendly and less likely to nuke each other after India toured Pakistan a couple of years ago. GizzaChat © 01:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
I still feel that they should not be included. Yes, they have profound influence on India, but they arent related to India in anyway. I think we should have only the portals of Indian states and cities (and perhaps the Asia portal) under it. Otherwise the list will be populated with all kinds of portals, in my opinion. thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK 09:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with Deepujoseph. The present logic makes for a very subjective inclusion of portals to this list. Unless these portals are India-specific (such as an Indian-Islam portal or an Indian-Christianity portal), I don't see any reason to include general portals — I think we'll just be stirring up a hornet's nest with that. I'll grant you cricket though, since clearly I have no perspective on that. AreJay 14:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I seperated Hyderabad and Kerala from Geography, as they cannot be put into the same category as India's neighbours (they are part of India; Pak, China and Bangladesh are not). I think it's a good move to link to portals for the other states and I think some states (Punjab and Maharashtra especially) should get portals seeing as there is a wealth of information based on them. I think cricket's alright, but to justify it Hockey might as well be added, seeing as that is the national sport. Don't think there's any need to link to the portals of our neighbours, China especially, seeing as we have very little to do with them (culturally). In the religious section, I think we should keep it to Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Buddhist (the 4 major world religions founded in India) and perhaps Islam. But minor religions (in India anyway) like Christianity, Shinto, Taoism etc. might as well be removed. Nobleeagle 03:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

The French and Svenska portals

The French and Svenska portals, whose links are given adjoining the India portal, are actually Portals about the Indian subcontinent, and not specifically about India. I propose to remove those links. I'd like to hear you opinion. thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK 12:45, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Remove per above. AreJay 15:44, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, I think it makes sense having them. The maintainers of these portals also linked them to this English portal, and all other "pure" Indian portals have also cross-linked with these portals. For many people this "technical" difference doesn't matter much. Looking at it from a perspective of being informative and helpful rather than being 100% exact, I think it's okay to keep. Considering that these nice portals exist in French and Swedish (French portal is featured), it would also be a bad idea to start a new portal in French just for Republic of India. Since that's not going to be done, fr:Portail:Monde indien is the closest we can get, and I think it's close enough. Maybe we can add something to clarify the difference. deeptrivia (talk) 01:53, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


Nominating selected articles

What is the process in nominating articles to appear in Selected articles section? Can a link please be added to the box? - Ganeshk (talk) 00:43, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Important announcement about "Did you know"

Hi all, happy Holi. I see that you need a volunteer for "Did you know.." Here is my solution, I have started a quiz - the questions and answers to which would be modified to DYK pattern and updated once/twice a week. The quiz is here - please read the objectives and guidelines and start participating. --Gurubrahma 10:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Umm...interesting idea, Gurubrahma thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK
Is there a link to the Quiz via the portal itself? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nobleeagle (talk • contribs) 23:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC).

News

I just added the one about Kunjarani. I am not sure if we can delete old ones or archive them, so I let them be. It may be good to have some sort of system and guidelines in place. --Gurubrahma 13:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

All new additions are archived at Indian current events. Any additions to the news section will have to go there too. - Ganeshk (talk) 16:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Did You Know

Let me know how often this needs to be updated and if there is a section for stuff that has already been put up. kaal 07:06, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Please see the relevant discussion above and WP:PINQ. --Gurubrahma 11:00, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


Nominate?

I feel the portal is in good shape. How about nominating it to WP:FPCAN? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ganeshk (talk • contribs) 22:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC).

I'm ready if you are — unless anyone has any other objections they would like addressed? AreJay 22:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
I believe it is ready. If there are any minor problems, it will be addressed during the nomination. GizzaChat © 04:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I too think it is ready for nomination. thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK
I believe this portal is better set-out than the other candidates presently up for Featured Portal Status, so I support the idea too. Nobleeagle (Talk) 04:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I think it's ready too. Just wait for the peer review to be archived, or just go ahead and archive it yourself.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 15:30, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Portal:India/Future issues/Template proposed for deletion

This appears to be an unused prior template, so I've proposed it for deletion. If I'm incorrect, remove the {{Prod}} template. —Doug Bell talk•contrib 19:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Portal:India's promotion

My congrats to all who worked to achieve this. --hydkat 05:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

It's great to see one's nation being featured on an encyclopaedia such as this. My thanks to everyone who has worked for it and everyone who supported it or even gave it constructive criticism. You've served India well :) Nobleeagle (Talk) 09:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Congrats to all the souls that worked on the portal. Great work indeed! thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK 14:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Today's Selected Article

How does this work??? There are some SA Nominations that aren't receiving any attention while we put up the article on Graffiti as a Selected Article... Nobleeagle (Talk) 01:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

The selected article process is maintained by Shyam Bihari (talk • contribs). After consensus is reached, he promotes the article to show up on the portal. He would be the right person to answer your question. - Ganeshk (talk) 07:33, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Have done although it appears that Shyam is on vacation...Tomorrow's SA Article is Dinosaur, it's really outrageous as the article has only one mention of India. Nobleeagle (Talk) 06:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
By the way, do you know where the archive is for old SAC. The current SAC page is just full of redlinks. Nobleeagle (Talk) 06:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
IMO Shyam Bihari (talk • contribs) is on a vacation. We should update the Indian SA list regularly. Its becoming sort of boring with just a handful article being reappearing repeatedly. There are quite a few articles already. In fact, some SAs qualify for SARC, like Delhi, whereas some articles need immediate promotion as SA, for example, Indian cricket team. FAs like Lothal, Malwa, Bangalore, Rabindranath Tagore have never appeared in the portal:India!! The whole thing is in a mess.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:16, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I had voiced my discomfort at having a "Today's Selected Article" section in the first place. I have always felt the turnover should be bimonthly or monthly. The trouble we have here is that a) there's not enough good articles to be featured on the portal. We have approximately 30 FAs and a few good articles, but at the rate we're going we'll be out of FAs in a month, and b) who is going to update and maintain that section every day? I am going to update the list with new articles, for the next few days, but I think there should be a push towards making this thing monthly. I would also suggest that we evaluate articles against the Version 1.0 assessment (which itself needs updating). Also India-related Wikipedia FAs should warrant an automatic inclusion in WP:PIN's SA list. Please comment. AreJay 18:45, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I did some update of Version 1.0 assessment a few days back. IMO, all India related FAs (32 total) are listed. However, I could not list all GAs under A-class. Please see. Some veteran A-class articles like K. M. Nanavati vs. State of Maharashtra should be there in India SA list. You are correct, AreJay, that we do not have enough FAs. So some A-class and some B-class articles can be included in India SA list. And also some A-class ones need to be put for nomination of GA. imo, the selected article in portal:India should be, at least, a weekly affair, and not daily. Otherwise, it becomes too recurring. And articles like C programming language, GNU/Linux naming controversy, Java programming language though universal in their appeal, are not exactly Indian articles. may be some Indian wikipedians did major contribution in those articles. If that's the reason of their inclusion to India SA list, even then it does not sound rational, because ,"The Selected Articles are what we believe to be the best articles in Wikipedia related to India. ". Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Further updated Version 1.0 assessment India-related FA list. Count 30.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:09, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
The entire system is bungled since Shyam is on vacation, how long does one have to wait before an article is promoted (when no objections have been made in quite a while) and how long does one have to wait before an article is removed (because stuff like Mozilla Firefox, Dinosaur and Graffiti better be removed quick). Nobleeagle (Talk) 01:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I would say this — per our Version 1.0 assessment, if we have an FA or an A-class article it can be automatically promoted to SA. SAC should be reserved for B-class articles and below (although realistically, if an article is of a quality that wouldn't allow it to be classified as even B-class, it probably should merit an SA inclusion). I have made some changes to the stream yesterday — you are not going to see the likes of Firefox or Dinosaur again. Shyam is on a vacation it appears; in the interim, I volunteer to take up that responsibility. However, I will be travelling overseas late May-mid June and may need someone to fill my shoes at that point in time. I'd encourage everyone to continue to QA articles and update our list of A-class and B-class articles based on Version 1.0 assessment; I will update the stream based on your input. Comments? AreJay 01:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I can't spend too much time as I have exams coming up in a while. I like your plan for things though. Nobleeagle (Talk) 02:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Totally agree with AreJay. FA and A class articles should be added in India SA list. However, one concern is A class article listing is difficult. For the time being, all already listed A-class should be adde to SA list. Later, other non A class should also be considered. For that, there is the SAC procedure. Please go ahead, AreJay. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Yep, agree with Dwaipayanc now that I come to think about it. FA get instant SA and new A Class Articles have to go through the SAC procedure (as they have under most conditions not gone through such a procedure yet). By the way, should all India-related Good Articles be A Class? Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, that's a tough question. Neither GA and A-class articles necessarily go through any review process. Often people may be prompted to make some article GA or A-class impulsively. For the time being, those India related A-class articles which have gone through peer review and also are excellent(again some personal view ponts come into play!) may be added to India SA list. For example, K.R.Narayanan. Let's do one thing for the sake of procedural clarity.
Afrer all those India SAs facing SARC are removed, let's nominate all India A-class for SAC. Most should pass quickly(one or two may be opposed - I do not know). Then we shall have all India FAs and India A-classes as India SA. That will be around 45 articles. Next, there are some articles already in SAC (like Satyajit Ray, Tanilnadu) which have not been classified as A-class. We should put those for SAC. Afrer that, we will be left with B-class and unclassified. With about 50 SAs, we can go on through the normal SAC then, as usual. So, the first job is to remove those peculiar articles from SA list. Some administrators may help. I have already contacted Sundar (talk • contribs). Then should nominate all A-classes foe SAC. Please comment.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, I see there are already some A-class articles listed as SAs(like Nehru, Tajmahal). So be it. Those remains as SA. Those A-classes that are not already SA should be put for SAC after the junk is removed. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

de-intending Did anybody notice that there is no "Today's Selected Article" today? -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK 12:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I quickly promoted Indian cricket team (which was the oldest nomination without an objection). But the alignment may have been affected (at least on my browser it was). So could someone please attempt to fix that up. We have a selected article for tomorrow but don't have one for the next few days...Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Portal:India/Selected article removal candidates

Hi! 2 articles have been nominated for removal from selecred articles list. Many more should be nominated though. Plese see and comment. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Have added Graffiti. Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:11, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Process to QA selected articles

Here's what I feel should realistically happen to ensure the quality of articles that are being featured.

  1. Remove all non-FA articles from WP:PINSA
  2. Use our Version 1.0 assessment as the authentic source to determine what articles can or cannot be featured
  3. A-class articles can be nominated for consideration to be accepted as SA. A consensus, similar to the one in the WP:FAC process must be reached before promoting articles to SA.
  4. In short, every single article present in WP:PINSA must have been nominated and have had some sort of consensus reached around the quality of the article (FAC or SAC) for it be a Portal India Selected Article.

If this process is acceptable, the first step is to remove every non-FA article from the SA stream (I volunteer to work on this). This will mean that we have a smaller pool to choose from for our Today's Selected Article stream until we come up with a large enough pool of SAs to be able to feature a unique article every day, but I am willing to accept that inconvenience over having to see articles like Cheese (which I am very fond of) and Coca-Cola (which I drink more than water, living as I am in a city that is the corporate headquarters for Coke) appear on our portal. Please comment. AreJay 02:06, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Agree. I agree with AreJay that this process would be most acceptable. Some A-class articles are there in SA list. Those should be delisted too. And all articles should go through selection ptocedure. Please go ahead. IMO, we have already lost a lot of time discussing all these things. Just remove all except FAs (around 30). Its better to have less number of quality articles than more number of junks. And the India SA article that appears everyday in portal: India, the frequency can be decreased if needed, say, weekly SA, until we get many more SAs. I think many A-class articles (even non-A class) will be soon selected as SA through the SE selection procedure. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Done Here a summary of the work. AreJay 14:58, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok. But we lack a category like Wikipedia:Former featured articles. I think the articles deleted in this mass deletion need not be cateforised. We should simply delete the India SA template from individual article's talk page. However, such a category should be created for future.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I have nominated a few articles for SAC that were not previous SAs but are in A-list. Previous SAs would also be nominated, but preferably after the aforesaid issue (if we need a "Former SA category", and related template right now) is resolved. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:53, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Uniformity

I think we need to unify all the Portal:India/Selected articles related pages and procedures. Many of these pages are not sub-pages of Portal:India for e.g. Portal:India Today's selected article/May 2006 (even though Portal:India/Today's selected article is a subpage. Otherwise it will become hopelessly complicated. I would volunteer for the work, but I have no time.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 04:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Turns out that there was only one. Sorry for the trouble.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 05:48, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
There are still a number of organizational red links that need to be made blue. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Time period on WP:PINSAC

Isn't there supposed to be some deadline of articles on WP:PINSAC? Satyajit Ray has been there for 2 months and Fundamental Rights for 1 month.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 17:25, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


Postage stamp

I have uploaded a scanned image of a postage stamp issued by the Government of India. Its a commemorative stamp issued in 1997. Does anyone have any idea whether this is infringing some copyrights etc? If so, I will remove the stamp. ramit 10:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Page is broken

Hello, can someone fix the Indian portal page?? I am not really sure how the template works. Their is white space on right of Todays selected article and bunch of other sections seem to be somehow screwed up. It has been like this for atleast four-five days. --Blacksun 01:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll look into it sometime tomorrow morning. I will format the contents and remove the Today's Featured Article. That process has generally failed, so until we can come up with a better alternative, let's hard-code a featured article every month or so. AreJay 01:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I've made the necessary changes; it was just a small formatting issue (one </div> too many :) AreJay 02:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Hardcoded Selected article and Selected picture

Because of maintenance issues, I have hardcoded the Selected article and Selected picture sections of the portal. This means that both sections need to be manually changed from now on. I consider this to be a temporary fix; I suggest we move in the direction of featuring one article and one picture per month. I think we were biting off more than we could chew with featuring a new article every day. First, we don't have enough India-related articles to feature a new one every day and second, maintaining the stream has become a problem. I volunteer to create the monthly streams for the Selected article/Selected picture sections, although this may have to wait until mid-June since I'm going on vacation to India next week. Other volunteers can feel free to push through with creating this stream, if consensus can be reached. AreJay 02:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I think weekly would be a happy medium. Monthly is too static. I think lot of people can help, especially if someone created a nice little tutorial for some of the more html challenged. --Blacksun 02:46, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
We can work out weekly I think... Nobleeagle (Talk) 05:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
By the way, does the week begin on Sunday or Monday in Wikipedia's book?? Nobleeagle (Talk) 05:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I would think Monday as Sunday is a weekend. --Blacksun 21:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Keep Lothal on for this week in order to have more time to sort everything out. On Monday the 29th of May we can change to another one. Nobleeagle (Talk) 00:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
If we can rotate previous "Selected Articles", then we can keep the SA changing everyday and in the meanwhile we can prepare TSA summary for newly selected articles. I don't think this would be difficult as it just requires copying the TSA summary from previous Selected Articles. We have around 15~20 articles in this and we can afford to repeat them once every fortnight rather than show the same every day. I can volunteer to create the TSA summaries from previous TSAs and maintain them to atleast the week ahead. If this is acceptable then I will start working on it. As regards to the Selected Picture, I think we better stick to one picture per week. Meanwhile, we need to start working on more Selected Article summaries from the newly selected articles. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
To have Selected Article everyday, we'll need a volunteer who will change it everyday. That may not be possible. If ambuj is ready to volunteer, however, we can keep the daily rotation going. And ambuj, let others know beforehand if you are unable to do it on certain days. We can try to share the burden in such instances. Thanks a lot.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that is quite true. It must be possible to select in advance, but change automatically every day - else, why did the feature break down when we ran out of articles? — Ravikiran 04:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Advance selecting and automatic changing was already there and was handled by User:Shyam Bihari. However, after he went on a break, nobody took the responsibility of selecting summaries for future articles and even I realized that after I saw on the portal that "Today's article hasn't been selected yet". I decided to handle the things myself then onwards and created a few temporary articles for the upcoming days. In the meanwhile, AreJay also noted the problem and decided to hardwire the Selected Article. I am willing to do the selecting part and just request you all to keep a watch that future selected articles have been selected atleast 5 days in advance (just in case I forget or go to wikibreak). Failing this, you may either hardwire the articles again or take up the work temporarily. If it is agreed upon then I can start preparing the TSA summary from days after today. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead, be bold, and take up the responsibility. In your absence, I'll definitely try to help out.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 18:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Anniversary/On this day section for Portal:India

I was thinking of starting a section for anniversaries of notable events, births and deaths related to India for the Portal:India, similar to Portal:Germany and Portal:Germany/Anniversaries. If there is consensus and enough events can be found, it could be placed on the portal, and would be automatically updated by a reference from the portal using a similar template to that on the German portal, and so would not require human updates daily.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 06:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Yup, that will be great!--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:26, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes... and India being India, there will be no dearth of anniversaries:)Lost 17:24, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
It is ready for construction at Portal:India/Anniversaries.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 05:10, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

A new page under Portal:India

I went ahead to create the Selected Content Page in order to speedy up things while choosing the daily selected articles. Now, under it, each Selected Article/Selected Picture Summary is a sub-page so that all we need to do is to substitute (or just include) the sub-page on the Today's Selected Article Page. Please comment on this system and should I start using it from now on. Now that the work has been organized, I plan to get the missing summaries by an active editor of the article for which the summary is not present. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 11:55, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

DYK

Am I just imagining it or has the DYK on the India portal not changed in a long, long time? How often are they usually updated? - Cribananda 01:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

India Quiz participants generally fill in the DYK with things in the quiz they've come accross that are interesting. Nobleeagle (Talk) 01:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Concern

News and DYK sections don't seem to be updated often - this may lead to removal of featured portal status. btw, round 7 of the quiz is up and running. --Gurubrahma 06:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Indian aircraft

The above category shows up as red on the portal. Was the category deleted or is it yet to be created? -- 61.2.23.66 07:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Whatever the case, one should not have red links on portal so I am removing the link until something is done about the category. Thanks for pointing that out. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Need for Page Moves

As explained in my previous thread (A new page under Portal:India), I have started the page on selected content summaries. However there is one problem with the current system. As of now, both the summaries of Selected Articles and Pictures appear as sub-page of "/Selected article". While this does not create any operational problems, the fundamental structure is wrong. This happened as first I thought of creating SA summary pages under "/Selected article" and SP summary under "/Selected pictures". However midway through the implementation I thought having a common repository for both will be better. A lapse of concentration meant that the page was created under "/Selected article" instead of directly under Portal:India. As I had already created a couple of dozen pages under it before I realized the problem, I decided to go ahead with the current scheme. However, I now feel that it is necessary to use the technically correct heirarchy for clearer understanding also as others, besides me, should also understand it clearly. Hence, I propose to move the Portal:India/Selected articles/SC Summary page and all subpages to one level up, directly under Portal:India. Should I go ahead with the moves, or is there another opinion? -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Since nobody responded in the past 5 days, I am going ahead with the page moves. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Current Events Move

Hello Portal:India members -

If you so desire, you can move Current events in India under the new current events portal (note that the Current events page is gone). Adopting the portal's layout is optional (although it would be nice if you did to some degree). Alternatively, you can move the current events page under your portal or just leave the page where it is (I don't think all of the current events pages will be moving into portal-space). joturner 04:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings.jpg

This appears to be an AP image, compare [1]. It will be deleted from commons shortly. This image is used on some more pages, please look into it. -- commons:User:Duesentrieb 20:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings.jpg, is proposed for CSD as a copyright violation[2]. I have replaced image with Image:Mumbai2006.jpg . This image was used earlier, It a fair use image, we will use it till we find a more suitable free-licensed image.Thank you (UTC) --Sartaj beary 22:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Silicon Valley of India move proposal

Hi all, please visit the above move proposal discussion - we need further input. thanks Bwithh 14:16, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Himalaya region

Hi all - this is just as a clarifier to all who peruse this portal and make edits, this portal IS intended to serve as country portal for Nepal, Bhutan and the region portal for Kashmir, Sikkim, Tibet, Arunachal Pradesh, Uttaranchal and Himachal Pradesh, as well as theme portal for the Himalayas. All input and participation is most welcome.This Fire Burns Always 04:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

If this is the case, then why only Nepal related topics template is added? — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Tibet should maybe be added as well.Bakaman Bakatalk 02:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

In the news section

I find that the news section of the portal only mentions breaking news. This translates to only a couple of news for the whole month. Shouldn't we "dilute" our standards to include everyday news (like President's trip to J&K, etc.) to make the portal more dynamic? On another note, I find it odd that WP:WIAFPo says "Any featured portal that requires maintenance and that is not updated for three or more months will be summarily demoted." Isn't three months a little too much a time to go before updates need to be done? A few days back Gurubrahma expressed his concern over slow updating of news and DYK, which seems a valid concern as to how should we maintain the portal. Am I missing something, or are portals acceptable as static? — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Tamil Nadu

Hi - folks, somebody has to develop this portal or it must be put up for deletion. Rama's arrow 15:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Lacking Hindi, Bengali texts

Speakers of Hindi and Bengali please keep a look at Category:Lacking Hindi text and Category:Lacking Bengali text.

In case a text in missing in other language, please use Template:Lacks. --Explendido Rocha 13:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notice board for India-related topics/Newsalert

Hi - based on the discussion between some members, I've created a newsletter framework based on the Wikipedia Signpost. Its only rudimentary and can be modified into a new layout anytime. This project needs the attention of the entire Indian Wikipedian community. Rama's arrow 20:12, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Government of India

Portal:Government of India has been created. Please suggest your views to make it improve. Please take participation in article and list selection. Actually it will work from October 1 in full phase, so anniversary also has dated October 1. Shyam (T/C) 20:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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