Talk:Igor González de Galdeano

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons. Controversial material of any kind that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous. If such material is repeatedly inserted or there are other concerns relative to this policy, report it on the living persons biographies noticeboard.

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page.	Biography Portal
B	This article has been rated as B-Class on the Project's quality scale. [FAQ] (If you rated the article, please give a short summary at comments to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.)
	This article is supported by the Sports and games work group.

Spain Portal This article is part of WikiProject Spain which aims to to expand and organise information better in articles related to the history, languages, and cultures of Spain. Please participate by editing the article, or visit the project page for more details.

Basque Portal This article is within the scope of the Basque WikiProject, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Basque people, Basque Country, Basque language, history and culture. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks.

	Cycling Portal This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Cycling. WikiProject Cycling is an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to cycling on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the discussion.
B	This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale.

Igor González de Galdeano has had a peer review by Wikipedia editors which is now archived. It may contain ideas you can use to improve this article.

An entry from Igor González de Galdeano appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on December 31, 2006.

Igor González de Galdeano was a good article candidate, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. Once the objections listed below are addressed, the article can be renominated. You may also seek a review of the decision if you feel there was a mistake. Date of review: 2007-03-09

	To-do list for Igor González de Galdeano:	edit  · history  · watch  · refresh
In the recent failed-GA, the following points were brought up: POV issues need resolving Palmares section needs slimming Resolved: section removed, all interesting information is in the infobox Image source no longer exists - can this be clarified for the existing picture or replaced with a better one? Copyedit Thoroughness - are there any English language sources for 1973-1995? Some technical terms (e.g. stage, sprints, time-trials) need explaining

[edit] Good article review

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is well written.

   a (prose): b (structure): c (MoS): d (jargon):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (inline citations): c (reliable): d (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Pass/Fail:

   a Well written:

   b Factually accurate:

   c Broad in coverage:

   d NPOV:

   e Stable:

   f Images:

   g Overall:

If the article failed the nomination, the comments below will help in addressing the problems. Once these tasks are accomplished, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. If you feel that this review is in error, please feel free to take it to a GA review. You can see how I, personally, applied the six criteria above at this link. I sincerely thank you for your work so far.

If your article passed the nomination, congratulations on making Wikipedia all the better. Your contributions are greatly appreciated. If you didn't know there is a groovy user box, {{User Good Articles}}, for those users who have significantly contributed to a good article. The "essay" linked above is also how the criteria are applied to passing articles as well. Thanks again for your hard work.

Review by: IvoShandor

[edit] More specific comments

• Criteria #1: Well written.

• Prose:

• General:

• Copy edit needed. In the intro I saw a missing commas: is a Spanish, former professional
• run by: verbiage such as that could be replaced by a word like 'operated', look for other examples of excessive wordiness.
• It was in this Tour: Phrases worded such as this could be replaced by something like: During the Tour

• Intro

• González de Galdeano became a key rival of Lance Armstrong in the middle of his Tour de France supremacy. Not to be nitpicky but that sentence is rather unclear as to who was dominating the Tour de France, I know it seems like common knowledge that Armstrong was but many readers may not know that.

• 'Early racing career'

• This parenthetical: (which is now Euskaltel-Euskadi). Probably a bit wordy, lose what I crossed out.
• Try to avoid vague terminology such as and a number of or similar wording. Use your sources to make statements more specific.
• sprints and mountains classifications: Wouldn't that be sprint and mountain classifications?
• Early in the season, González de Galdeano won stage five: This needs context, stage five of what?

• 'O.N.C.E. and the Armstrong rivalry'

• and hencing coining his nickname, Speedy González.: and hence, . . .
• Word choice: Battle was resumed. Better word than 'battle' needed.
• Although Armstrong did overhaul González de Galdeano and Beloki to claim his fourth Tour, O.N.C.E. improved their performance over the previous year: Beloki moved up a step on the podium to second and was clearly Armstong's principal threat, González de Galdeano once again finished fifth, and with strong riding from team mate José Azevedo, who finished sixth, O.N.C.E. were able to claim the team competition: See the notes below on this sentence but it needs to be split up as well, it's just too long.
• palmarès: This doesn't seem to be a commonly used foreign word in English, consider replacing with the English equivalent.

• 'Retirement'

• , González de Galdeano combines studying at Basque Institute of Physical Education (IVEF) with being a technical secretary at the Euskaltel-Euskadi team, where he had started his professional career in 1995.: Needs rewritten, not correctly structured for subject-verb agreement.

• 'Palmares'

• See my other comments about this section title.
• The whole section is a giant list, and I don't even think it is necessary, see below.

• Structure

• "Palmares'? Section title is confusing, not sure what that means myself.

• MOS

• Overall, no huge problems.

• Jargon

• Some explanation of racing related terms may be necessary for the average reader: stage, sprints, time-trials are just a few examples.

• Criteria #2: Verifiable

• References

• The citations in the middle of sentences are hugely distracting to the reader, consider moving them to the end of the applicable sentence.
• Article relies largely on one source, not horrible but other sources should be looked for.

• Inline citations

• Seemed to be used in the pertinent places

• Reliable

• Overall, yes, save the POV issues.

• Original research

• Meets the qualifications.

• Criteria #3: Thoroughness

• Major aspects

• There isn't a word about his first 22 years of life. only 1995 to present are covered.

• Focus

• Despite his excellent time-trialling skills, González de Galdeano eventually missed out on claiming the overall victory of the race when he lost nearly four minutes to the eventual race winner Jan Ullrich on the penultimate stage,: It is not necessary to justify the lost with a "he lost but he is really good at". It's not relevant nor really tied to the loss. His skills at time trialling are separate from any individual time trial, otherwise this sentence gives the impression that it was written by a fan for fans.
• 'Palmares': This section is not necessary, it's a list anyway, which does meet the "well written" criteria for a GA. Secondly, I would say it is completely unnecessary to have every result of every race he ever participated in.

• Criteria #4: NPOV

• Fair representation

• Yet, González de Galdeano saved his best for the Vuelta a España in September: This is definitely subjective, unless you can use citations to make it true realtive to, say, the season you are talking about.
• See Comment under Criteria #3 above.
• Lose POV such as: Nevertheless, González de Galdeano had an excellent Vuelta and riased his profile immeasurably.

POV: (unless it can be backed up as I noted above) Following a lacklustre 2000 season and the demise of the Vitalicio Seguros squad

• excellent time-trialling skills: adjective such as 'excellent' should be avoided, let the reader decide if his skills are "excellent" based upon the facts and their citations.
• small rivalry: again, avoid using subjective terminology. Just say rivalry, let the reader decide its size.
• González de Galdeano beat Armstrong in the time-trial[18] and, following an intense ride by Armstrong in the mountains, eventually finished second in the general classification to him: You shouldn't phrase a sentence in a way that is meant to make the subject look better despite a negative outcome.
• Word choice: Words like 'Although' and 'however' are sneaky POV words.
• Although Armstrong did overhaul González de Galdeano and Beloki to claim his fourth Tour, O.N.C.E. improved their performance over the previous year: One has nothing to do with the other.

• All significant views

• Reads mostly like it was written by a supporter of Galdeano, once fixed for POV it will probably be alright.

• Criteria #5: Stable

• Does not appear to be the subject of ongoing edit wars.

• Criteria #6: Images

• Tags/captions

• The source site on the image page is a broken link that leads to an underconstruction notice. It is impossible to verify the copyright of the image.

• Lack of

• The table at the bottom, with the "bronze" notation, doesn't really make sense or add much to the article.

• Free use

• Cannot determine.