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[edit] Protection

Why is this template protected? Template:vfd and others are unprotected—So why isn't this? I have an improvement but I will not suggest it here as another user's name will be assigned to it in the history. Protection gives sysops an unfair advantage. — El Chico! Talk 11:57, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Most of the most-used templates are semi-permanently protected, especially if they have been the targets of edit-wars in the past. The reason is, when you change this template, it changes hundreds of pages on Wikipedia. The protection is to ensure all changes are discussed here first, and that there is consensus to make the change. Then a sysop can unprotect it for you, long enough for you to make the change, and then re-protect it.
So what improvement were you thinking of making? Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 23:30, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)
I don't know about El Chico, but I would like to change [[Category:Images for deletion]] to [[Category:Images for deletion|{{PAGENAME}}]]. – ABCD 18:54, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Please unprotect this page. Template:Vfd is unprotected, and so is Template:Ifd. Why is this any different?


Well, I think that the idea of linking to the template to improve upon it is sort of bogus, if its protected. The wording should be changed to 'suggest improvements' and the link should be to the talk page. →Iñgōlemo← talk donate 00:22, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • I also think that this passage "However, you are welcome to make improvements to it." should be removed. I would also reword this sentence: "Please do not remove this notice while the question is being considered." I would replace it with "Please do not remove this notice while it's deletion is being discussed." Zscout370 19:52, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I unprotected the template. It is only used on 199 pages at the moment; I don't think that's enough to count it as one of the "most-used" templates. dbenbenn | talk 01:37, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image?

Do you think we should have an image of this template to show the template out more on image pages so people then know about the image being deleted? Image:Stop hand.png • Thorpe • 21:15, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

I agree, and I've implemented your suggestion. dbenbenn | talk 20:56, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Change in look

I have given the template a look that is similar to the other templates that remind people that image may have to be deleted. I hope that's fine, if not then revert. (I also added a link to editing the page and changed the font size of the "If you have just labeled" sentence to be similar to other templates using such a sentence.) Wcquidditch 18:10, 25 September 2005 (UTC)


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Putting and image or media up for deletion is a three step process; see the main article for more information. Template:Idw is used in the second step by Subst.

This template is a self-reference and so is part of the Wikipedia project rather than the encyclopaedic content. This template is not useful for Wikipedia:Subst. This template will categorise tagged categories into Category:Images and media for deletion but this template will not be included.

[edit] See also

  • I've moved the above from the main template, because it makes a horrible mess when people subst the template, which they inevitably do. Radiant_>|< 14:25, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rewritten

This has now been rewritten similar to {{Afd}}. --Wcquidditch | Talk 15:45, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Link to entry on IFD

Would it be possible to change the link to IFD so that it goes directly to the image's entry? The {{Ifd2}} template which is recommended for listing images on IFD makes an anchor with the name of the image. It might be possible to change the line in this template that says:

Please share your thoughts on the matter at its entry on the Images and media for deletion page.

Could that link be changed to something like the following?

[[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion#{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Images and media for deletion]]

If the image was listed on IFD without using {{Ifd2}}, then this fragment identifier wouldn't help any, but it wouldn't hurt anything either. In the majority of cases, though, this would take a person directly to the image's entry. —Bkell (talk) 07:16, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

There being no objections, I'm going to be bold and make the change. —Bkell (talk) 11:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hide/Show bug

When viewing this template, the hide/show comes up as hide, requiring a user to click "hide" and then "show" to get the lower portion to display. Could this be fixed so that the "Show" is the first action so the user doesn't have to double-click? --MECUtalk 04:14, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit requested

{{editprotected}}

Please change

''Please share your thoughts on the matter at its entry on the [[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion<includeonly>#{{FULLPAGENAME}}</includeonly>|Images and media for deletion]] page.

to

''Please share your thoughts on the matter at its entry on the [[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion<includeonly>/{{FULLPAGENAME}}</includeonly>|Images and media for deletion]] page.

Thank you. ("#" to "/"). This makes much more sense, since IFDs often have a backlog, and it would be nice to access a deletion debate by going directly to it, rather than digging through said backlogs or doing a search. {{afd1}} also has this feature. Thanks. GracenotesT § 06:29, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Oops. Hm, that's not what I meant to say. Just a sec; I'm going to fix it. GracenotesT § 07:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
OK, I think I have it: change it to
''Please share your thoughts on the matter at its entry on the [[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion<includeonly>/{{subst:#time:Y F j}}#{{FULLPAGENAME}}</includeonly>|Images and media for deletion]] page.
Hopefully the includeonly substitution of parserfunctions won't be too quirky in this case. Thanks! GracenotesT § 07:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately, they are. – ABCD 17:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
In this case? GracenotesT § 21:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

You want to put the includeonly around the subst: ''Please share your thoughts on the matter at its entry on the [[Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>#time:Y F j}}#{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Images and media for deletion]] page. Except that that will have to be tested too, because subst-ParserFunction combinations are weird. --ais523 09:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

That should work... but only if the template were substituted. The documentation currently says that the template can be used unsubstituted, but if this change were made and the template used without substitution it would always point to the page for the CURRENT date... regardless of when the template was placed on the page / what date the discussion is listed under. Thus, implementing this logic change would require a corresponding change in culture / use. --CBD 22:30, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
"Not carried out right now", said the humble dolt going through the editprotected requests. "There's been no response since CBD's pertinent point of contention", and he wandered along to the next template talk page. Proto:: 18:29, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Hm, fair enough, I sort of forgot about my request. Gracenotes dreams of a day when template substitution can be set default GracenotesT § 20:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit request: Change to look more like Template:Afd

Proposed new design:

I think this template is a bit more formal. Also, having the afd and ifd images so different in design might be confusing to some users. --24fan24 (talk) 21:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I am not opposed, but it's too early for an {{editprotected}}, some discussion first, please. Guy (Help!) 12:44, 4 March 2007 (UTC)