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This statement in the 04:57, 4 May 2004 version is probably incorrect

Natural ice wines require a hard frost (roughly 9 degrees C)...

Nine degrees C is above the freezing point of water, and thus would not create either frost or icewine. Perhaps it should say -9 degrees C rather than (+)9 degrees C. Hopefully someone more knowledgable than me can either confirm or correct this.

12.64.186.127 03:18, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'm no expert on it, but it did say "hard frost", so I went ahead and changed what was clearly wrong to what was probably right. - Hephaestos|§ 03:23, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Headline Breaks

The article seemed jumbled and clustered so I tried adding some breaks. It's far from perfect but maybe some more tweaking by other sets of eyes will make it flow better Agne27 17:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)Agne27

[edit] One word or two?

Should it be ice wine or icewine? Because at the moment both are used in the article, so it could use a little uniformity.--24.203.61.236 19:17, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

I believe that "ice wine" is more common but both are in common use. Rmhermen 14:18, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Specifically, "icewine" is used by VQA wineries under a set of regulations that closely follows Germany's regs for eiswein. I believe they have the exclusive right to "icewine" in Canada, something labeled "ice wine" could be the result of cryoextraction of non-Canadian grapes. Therefore I think that "ice wine" is the generic term and "icewine" is the term used when discussing the real Canadian stuff. But I'm just an American, we don't even make real ice wine. Wnissen 14:50, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, we do - at least in Michigan and New York. Rmhermen 15:27, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Huh! I've had a pretty good example from Ohio made from late-picked grapes that were frozen, but didn't know there was anyone in the U.S. with the proper climate. Wnissen 13:44, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

The climates of the Ontario, New York, northern Ohio and Michigan wine regions are all rather similar, moderated by the Great Lakes or the Finger Lakes but still pretty cold. Rmhermen 22:18, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Usually vs unusually

Those consistent freezes are usual for Canada but unusual for grape producing regions. So isn't there a better way to word that sentence? --132.206.150.33 18:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree, perhaps something such as "Canada has usually consistent freezes in winter, which is quite odd for a wine producing region, and such has become the largest producer of icewine in the world". but that seems too long.