Talk:Ibn Battuta

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I see a few lines of cuss words and racial invective in the introduction, after "The following account assumes the latter where it is not obviously the former." It says, for the record: "ibn battutta was a gay son of a bitch who smelt of camel urine , which he drank a lot. his mother was a ugandan slave prostitute and his father was a stinking camel shagging morrocan arab." I would delete it, but can't seem to see the text in the edit screen. Does anybody know what's going on? Delechrom December 14, 2006

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I would like to voice thanks for this article. When I saw it, I thought I know that name, but I have forgotten where I read it!. On reading the article, I recalled that it was a hilarious parody of reviewers' comments within the framework of Ozymandias treated as a scientific research report.

The opening line:

• I met a traveller from an antique land...

was greeted with:

• As the report appears to be based on field observations by another geologist, we suggest that joint authorship would be appropriate.

In the rewritten version Shelley's co-author was given as Ibn Battuta. At long last I now get the joke.

I would share more of the original but I believe that the above marks the boundaries of fair use for copyright purposes. --Alan Peakall 17:46 Oct 23, 2002 (UTC)

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Is this page intended to be read by native English speakers who are not Muslims? If so, this sentence is pretty foolish: "...Ibn Battuta went on a hajj -- a pilgrimage to Makkah." If someone does not know what the hajj is, there's about zero chance that he/she/it will ever have heard of Makkah, and just about a dead certainty that "pilgrimage to Mecca" would have been understood instantly. Of course, they can follow the link to find out what Makkah is; but then, they could follow the link to hajj, couldn't they? Why give the non-explanation here?

To insist on the use of a name not used by major English-language news media or reference works (cf. http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/x/x-m1akka.asp ), and not known to about 90% of native speakers of the language, is to insist on politics in place of communication. Dandrake 01:33, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Merge completed 2 Pronounce 3 Map of his travels 4 Which madhhab is correct? 5 Good Article review 6 Social Indicators in the Islamic kingdoms???

[edit] Merge completed

The Ibn Batuda article (ie, about the same person) is now merged with this one, and changed to a redirect to here. Merge tag therefore removed.--cjllw | TALK 2005 July 1 08:20 (UTC)

[edit] Pronounce

How is his name pronounced?

According to a pronunciation guide, it's IB-uhn ba-TOO-tuh. Unfortunately the person who photocopied it didn't source it.

[edit] Map of his travels

Would it be possible to include one, and for other early explorers?

[edit] Which madhhab is correct?

In the beginning of this article Ibn Battuta is described as belonging to the Maliki madhhab, but at the bottom he is included in the category of notable Shafi'is. The former seems more likely, given their prevalence in North Africa and particularly among the Berbers, but I don't know which is correct. Does anyone know, so we can fix this contradiction? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Breadhat (talk • contribs) 28 November 2006.

Maliki is correct, at least according to Mackintosh-Smith's translation and notes. During his stay in Delhi Ibn Battuta was made Maliki qadi of the city. Don't know where or why the Shafi'i category was applied, should probably be removed.--cjllw | TALK 08:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll go ahead and fix it. (Forgot to sign my previous comment.)Breadhat 02:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

's ok, I've gone ahead and replaced the Shafi'is category with cat:Malikis.--cjllw | TALK 08:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article review

In a 3 to 0 vote on GA/R, this article has been delisted, primarily for only having sparse references and some writing problems. Review archived here: Wikipedia:Good article review/Archive 14. Homestarmy 13:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Social Indicators in the Islamic kingdoms???

Clearly it does not make up any part of Biography and is only excerpts of the Book quoted 16 times. It might have a place on WikiSource but isnt suitable for this Biography. --Webkami 15:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Considering that Ibn Battuta was an author , observer and traveller ...quotations from his book in an article about him are entirely relevant . In any case we know about Ibn Battuta from his own writings , if you know about him from other sources please quote . Further the 16 quotes are from precise pages ...now what problem would you have with that??

Dident miss my attention off course that you visited and added edits to three articles I have contributed to in a single session ....should I read into this or is it a credible coincidence. CheersIntothefire 16:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

The place it should go is WikiQuotes. Lets have somebody else a word about it. I do roam around wikipedia and correct things I am sure of and question things that look suspicious to me. I dont see any harm if I question a few things in one session? --Webkami 09:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Webkami you put a comment ....I answered comprehensively providing reasons ...but I have no direct response to my question -see first para of my response . Then you say you roam wikipedia fixing things that "look suspecious to me " . Request please specifically and openly spell out your suspesions on my posts in this article " cheers Intothefire 12:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry if I wasnt clear.

• I have read your reasoning but I am saying this many quotes should not be there in article, one or two seems fine rest should got in Wiki Quotes.
• The thing is that some of our interests are same so I happen to visit some of the articles that you edited. Now I have this question which I posted here, another question which I posted on relevant article. Nothing personal.

Have fun... --Webkami 15:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Well then  :-D Intothefire 16:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)