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[edit] Die (manufacturing)

Nice additions to the above page, keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more edits in the watchlist. Perhaps WikiProject Metalworking will survive by the looks of the recent additions to the contributors section. — Graibeard (talk) 10:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I have my eye on a few. Now just need to find the time!I already forgot 07:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for guidance

Straight into the hard stuff heh? ;-) I agree that the casting article could be an overview under cat. manufacturing with each method (eg: lost wax) having a summary and a link to its own article, I don't think there is a need for [[casting (metalworking)]] though, as each article will have an appropriate category and a search for casting will present an appropriate link.

As to how to go about it? You can always be bold, however doing that to an article with a pedigree such as this one could be overstepping the mark. If you make the changes and get bounced for them, just chalk it up to experience and don't let it ruin your day. Being bold when sorting and expanding articles in the metalworking area has (to date) been uneventful as the edits have been uncontroversial and obvious improvements.

If you're unsure that being bold is the best approach then open a discussion on the articles talk page with your proposal, it will become clear after a short while if your intention worries anyone and you can act accordingly. The downside to this approach is there may be more talking than doing.

Whichever way you choose, always keep in mind that the GFDL requires that the articles history (author credits) be attributed, so don't do cut'n paste page moves and when merging content make sure the edit summary clearly links to the article's origins, if necessary add any additional comments (reason for merge, date of first inclusion in old article) to the new talk page, also the initial entry on the merged article should only be the transferred content, the next entries can incorporate new edits.

Regarding redirects: If there is no entry for an article, readers are encouraged to create it, this is good as it reduces the tendency to end up with a host of similarly titled pages; die making, coin die and Coining (machining) (or even [[press tools]], [[die (forming)]] :-) created by different authors, modified by others but with no links back to the parent or similar articles. Therefore when an article is created we should also create redirects to catch alternative names or related searches, these redirects (or placeholders) can also be added after the event. Looking at the history of [[casting]] gives an insight into how it evolved. It originally started as an article that predominately described the Lost wax method with the lost wax redirects coming much later. It could be argued that it was misnamed originally, or that the redirect should instead have been an article that merged the appropriate material but I won't take that stance as this is a wiki and everyone contributes what they can, when they can; as long as the articles move forwards and improve that's the main goal.

In short; redirects are good, but at some time they may need to be reclaimed and used - consider them as the smallest of stub articles. — Graibeard (talk) 02:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Apprenticeship question

I'm trying to move from computer science into tool and die work, and I'm starting to get frustrated with the lack of information out there. Any suggestions on what I should be doing, and where I should be looking to get into a tool and die apprenticeship? - Toastydeath 21:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. I didn't really want to get into a long and drawn out internet arguement over something that's highly semantic and subjective - i.e. what one considers "self-replicating," etc. Don't worry, I'll still be editing all over the place.

[edit] N. Ramani

Thanks for good work at N. Ramani. Badagnani 20:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User space

Sorry, I didn't think that categories, etc. in user talk space were picked up. They probably shouldn't be. I'm just keeping that around in case the main article is deleted; I don't want to lose all those cites. --John Nagle 21:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Muslim pop in Kashmir

Kashmir has a muslim majority. Most Hindus have been ethnically cleansed from the region. Even before that, Sufi sants had converted the population to Islam centuries back.Netaji 23:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
To your post in my user page (moved it to my talk page), my answer is:
Damn Straight. I'd count 250,000 Hindus ethnically cleansed from kashmir as an act of persecution.Netaji 05:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Hold on. Let me qualify my last statement. I forgot that the title is "Historical persecution". However, even historically, Kashmiri pandits have been slaughtered by muslims there and had to seek protection from Ranjit Singh. See this.Netaji 05:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
In contrast, there has been no persecution of muslims from the Dogra clans who ran Kashmir from the 19th cent onwards till independence.Netaji 05:46, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Steve Irwin

Uncited?? In Australia the damage that cloven hooved animals can do to our delicate and NOT evolved for soils is well known- and documented. (cows are now bannd from national parks for this amongst other reasons). So much do i dont think it needs to be sited. How many litte sitations do we need in wikki? Theres no sitations for the fact he was a crocodile trapper for example...... b However i am happy to provide some. It may take a while though as i dont really think i will be able to get quality from the internet. Would have been nicer to put one of those [citation needed] thingys. Cilstr 04:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Your edit is not only uncited but its POV. Countering a quote with a cited rebuttal from a person who can make such assertions would be more appropriate. However, an editor has already cited source to discredit the statement so the addition would be redundant.--I already forgot 05:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Well,as i said i was preparing(scientific) sources. And it is not POV it has been proven ( scientifcally) that cloven hoved animals damage australian soils. Thats not POV - you coulda said redundant i supose- but the Sydney Morning Herald is hardly a great source. Their statement IS POV and nonscience. Cilstr 07:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)


need source "for deady sea creatures"...quick —The preceding unsigned comment was added by I already forgot (talkcontribs).

I heard it on A Current Affair tonight. I would use {{cite visual}}, but I didn't catch the title. --DavidHOzAu 09:09, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

You can also view the article here. You'll need to use internet explorer to view the video. --DavidHOzAu 09:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

For your work in narrowing down the list of references on Steve Irwin. --Woohookitty(meow) 11:17, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Anytime!--I already forgot 11:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Benilicus

I deleted the contents of Benilicus for a reason - it's a made up animal. There's no such thing and I doubt you'd find any evidence of it outside Wikipedia or its mirrors. damanmundine—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Damanmundine (talkcontribs) .

I do not disagree. The problem is it looks like vandalism as you did not follow WP:DELETE policy. Next time you see an article that should be deleted, follow WP:DELETE procedures and tag it for deletion. Otherwise, deleting the contents of the article is deleting the evidence used for its deletion. Anyway, no big deal, I'll tag it.--I already forgot 10:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
OK thanks, I'll remember next time..--Damanmundine

[edit] Hare scramble

The AMA link is provided twice in the current revision.--Scribner 19:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to say thanks here, also. I look forward to reading the article. Take care.--Scribner 21:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

"Motorcycle racing" vs "motorcycle sport" - I've moved the former to the latter (and changed all links) because the former doesn't strictly incorporate everything within the realm of the sport - notably enduros and trials. if in the context of this article it doesn't sound right then its fine by me, but over here strictly speaking we call our "hare and hounds" not racing for legal (well insurance) purposes (its cheaper - you're chasing the target that is ridiculous) Pickle 17:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spam reverts

Hi & thanks for picking up some spam today that I was involved with too. Don't know if you have looked at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups but it does make some things much easier (I have other toys but do tend to use that one most). Equally there is a good script somewhere for reporting IPs for vandalism - will happily look out the location if you want me too. I do tend to slap a warning (test or spam from the templates) on any I find - it does help following editors to make decisions about reporting etc. Thanks and regards --Nigel (Talk) 17:13, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Add Phishing by Police

I read your user mail to me. I will respond in the discussion section for the Phishing article. I ask that you respond there, also.

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[edit] just out of curiosity

May I ask, then, why an article about a part of the judicial system is too long and too detailed for you because it contains information, while an article about a single tennis player whom only tennis fans have even heard of deserves an article just as long??HarvardOxon


that was a useful review of the NNA...why did you remove the link to it? The article about the NNA is crap, at least leave a decent link about the NNA up. --Roadkillu 19:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

isn't a review supposed to be someone's POV? Is that not the whole point of a review...getting someone's opinion on something? --Roadkillu 20:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Talk:Off-road vehicle

I already forgot wrote:

I've responded [1][2][3], provided policy[4], later explained in detail on which policy to ref [5], and have responded to jeepday after he disregards my explanations. User will not give up until valid talk entries he disagrees with are removed (which user Loperco requested assistance on and talk was not deleted [6]). It doesn’t matter how I explain myself or cite policy, the user acts if I did not provide valid reasons for rv talk page blanking and then ref different policy while talking from the 3rd person [7]. First the user changed Loperco's talk entry and added quote by adding bigot[8], then cited the talk entry was pov[9][10] as if it was an article and then used his own suggestion as consensus for removal[11][12]. Then it was sending to history (deleting)as if archiving [13], then its speedy delete [14] and now that you have stated that discussion should not be deleted, the users current reason for talk page blanking is copyvio [15] and contends that I'm blindly rv his deletion under the premise that policy doesnt apply [16]. Also, when did citing source and quoting a 30yr old letter to an editor in discussion become a copyvio? Or is it just another attempt to censor valid discussion that both jeepday and I disagree with but is valid nonetheless? For this reason I have rv the blanking just as I do on all my other vandal patrols. I'm sorry this has ended up on your talk page but this user will not give up and I needed to reply to his statements about me. Since you are an admin, I ask for help and guidance on this issue as its becoming exhausting. --I already forgot 01:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your extensive explanation. Neither of you are really at fault here; it was more of a well-intentioned misunderstanding.

I've had a look at the copyrighted material in question. As far as I am concerned, quoting a paragraph of a letter on a discussion page, for the purposes of discussion, where the content of the letter is relevant to the subject under discussion and where the quote is clearly marked as such and sourced is fine. Were the quote in the article itself, I might recommend that it were removed were it not essential to the article. However, quoting a short, inextensive passage from copyrighted material, with attribution, is not a copyright violation; many examples can be found in our articles. The quote should be restored to the talk page. (This message has also been posted to User talk:Jeepday) – Gurch 01:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Agreed

I offer my apologies for what I agree has been a very exhausting argument. I would like to post the following to the Talk:Off-road vehicle page. I offer it first for your review for accuracy and inconstancies.

Begin proposed post

I stand corrected, User:I already forgot and I (User:Jeepday) interpreted Wikipedia Policies and Guidelines differently. User:Gurch who is administrator stepped in, in response to my posting a request for speedy deletion [17] on the Talk:Off-road vehicle page. User:I already forgot and I (User:Jeepday) both posted our perspectives to User:Gurch [18] who responded to each of us. [19] [20] The consensus is that both the Edward_Abbey_qoute and the discussion about it are appropriate to remain on the Talk:Off-road vehicle page, I accept this and offer my apologies to any that may have been offended. (to be signed on posting)

End proposed post

Question -Do think our argument could have been alleviated or simplified by an inclusion on Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines of a sub section on content of talk page? Jeepday 16:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

.--I already forgot wrote on my talk page

I guarantee we both learned something from the incident and will approach similar incidents from a different perspective next time. No hard feelings and happy editing.--I already forgot about the incident.

LOL, Agreed Jeepday 14:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notary public

No, these issues were not discussed already on the talk page, opther issues were. If you are going to confuse people by screwing around with articles for no good reason, will you please format the new artricles correctly, and try not to drop the references?HarvardOxon 04:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Message above was left after I failed to add the ref tag to a new article that was moved from new york section of notary public which is also the state the user is overly protective of. Not sure how to reply to such uncivil nonsense but here was my attempt [21].--I already forgot 08:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baja 1000

Do you have a list of the overall winners at the Baja 1000? I would like to see the list added and sourced. I can see reverted the list if indeed it was the winners of a specific class. Also, the list of division does change from year to year, so I'm okay with that list being reverted. Please reply either here or at the article's talk page. Royalbroil T : C 12:15, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I do not have a list of overall winners but I can try and dig them up. If the list is correct, the majority of the latest overall wins should be Honda's A Team. More specifically, Class 22 rider of record Johnny Campbell. Again, I will try and get a list started or help to add the correct overall winner. --I already forgot 16:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Please see the discussion page. Royalbroil T : C 14:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SODA & Jack Flannery

Do you have a background and/or sources with the SODA series? I would like to see the SODA (series) article expanded. I would also like to write an article on Flannery, but I can't find any web sources. I remember watching the races on ESPN. Most of the races were held at tracks close to my home, but I only went to one event at Road America. I went to stockcar races at 4 of the former tracks this year (Antigo (Image), Luxemburg (Image), Lake Geneva Raceway, and Oshkosh (Image). Thanks! Royalbroil T : C 06:03, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#North_American_Motorsport

I am wondering if you would be interested in contributing to a new WikiProject that I have proposed? It focuses on motorsports in North American that are not covered by other WikiProjects. One big uncovered areas is Off-road racing, and I obviously are knowledgable about the Baja 1000. Please check out the proposal, and join if you are interested and have the time. Cheers! Royalbroil T : C 21:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I won't set up the WikiProject except if we find several more gungho knowledgable participants. I know Barno & I are. It takes quite a bit of work to setup and maintain a WikiProject, and my time might be best spent working to improve the variety of articles. We should each just do our own thing like we have been except if there is a push. There seems to be a push in the U.S. towards all forms of racing. I haven't seen that real much in Wikipedia (except NASCAR). I thought I should ask to find out if you would be more interested in that area. I appreciate your thoughts and honesty on the proposal. Royalbroil T : C 22:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
I am totally impressed!!! Royalbroil T : C 23:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your gross incivility on User talk:Embryoglio

Please do not make incivil false accusations of incivility and false accusations of vandalism on your target's talk page, and do not vandalize said talk page by restoring your false accusations that were deleted by the user. It is the right of a user to blank any portion of one's talk page, and especially that which violates Wikipedia:Civility. Embryoglio 23:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sex positions

I returned one of the images to the article after reviewing it's status. It seems to be a valid GFDL, and not a copyvio. Am I mistaken? Atom 18:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I like your username.

^_^ - (), 16:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! That’s one hell of a compliment coming from I do not exist :).--I already forgot 18:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Me, too! I can definitely identify with it. --A. B. (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] re: [[:{{{1}}}]]}}.

Thank you for your consideration, I regard my posts as contributions expressing the vital current usage of the relevant ~pedia - the sandbox in this respect seems like a scratching post (re: Your continued donationskeep Wikipedia running!)?

I have to confess the source is different to what I am accustomed to, I had repeatedly edited my posts to achieve a final look until attaining just the simple layout I intended, I am using the 'Wikiwalkthroughs' for would be contributors to finalise layout & presentation and it is coming together more gracefully with my continuing essay.

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Original message-------

Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. --I already forgot 17:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fisherbikes link

Hey. The glossary you added at Mountain Bike in the external links section is very useful, but also take every opportunity to advertise for the company. For example, after discussing a material, it will talk about why they use it in one place on their bikes and are therefore better than other manufacturers. Do you know of another similar site thats a little more neutral, with a little less spam? It's useful enough to warrant leaving if not, but is very Fisher-centric. Goodnightmush 18:13, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

The new one looks much more neutral. Thanks. Goodnightmush 22:47, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why I leave examples of spam links on spammers' talk pages

Hi. I saw your edits to User talk:125.24.11.105. I leave those links so that if someone does a linksearch on some spam link in the future, they'll instantly see the other users that have added the same link. Here's an example:

  • Current list of articles with jobseek-info.blogspot.com links

If you click the link, you'll see what I mean.

Otherwise, in the anarchy of Wikipedia, spammers change accounts, add the same links again, get a low-level warning, then repeat. This way they can end up getting reverted and warned on an ad-hoc basis by many different editors for months and months before anyone connects the dots, if ever, and puts the domains on the spam blacklist.

Thanks for warning that guy and reverting his spam. That wasn't his first time or first account used. --A. B. (talk) 21:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for adding the Porsche 911-powered VW T1 bus link, I thought it would be interesting. --HashiriyaGDB 13:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm Sorry

I was merely trying to reverse vandalism. I did not realize that the included links were spam. Thank you for informing me of my error. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.27.124.111 (talk) 04:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] EADS

The addition of EADS NA Defense Security and Systems Solutions, Inc. to the Parent company of EADS is appropriate. I appreciate your zeal to keep Wikipedia correct, and would appreciate you returning the link to the EADS web page that has now been removed twice. Please contact me if you have any questions. Thank-you. Gam2121.

Please see WP:EL and related pages. The sole purpose of your account was to create links from multiple articles to your website. The article in question has the appropriate link to the home page of EADS and should not contain a list of links to every subsidiary or affiliate of the company. In addition, the home page of EADS and EADS North America link to subsidiaries of the company so adding a list would be redundant and add no value to the article. For example: ITT Corporation has subsidiaries scattered across the globe but the article page links to the corporate site which then links to affiliated companies. --I already forgot 17:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin Mitnick

Oh, I see. That's fine. Thankyou for notifying me on the matter. Happy editing! Lradrama 13:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)#Regarding notability of Football (soccer) players

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