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[edit] Hyrulian Timelines

This page seems to be arranged in a supposed "chronology" of Hyrule, as opposed to the order in which the games came out. As it has been said time and time again that a definitive chronology is all but impossible, perhaps this page should be restructured. Thoughts? --Jacqui M Schedler 18:17, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

It's the best way to construct the page. If you look at Hyrule in different times, one game is going to be before another which will fit with someones timeline. Just best sticking with it. Trip: The Light Fantastic 12:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

I disagree. I say that, in order to remain neutral on the timeline debate, the games should be rearranged in order of release date. Jeff Silvers 23:53, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Ditto 23:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'Great Sea' movement

Who moved the section on Wind Waker into it's own article? Does it really need one? Trip: The Light Fantastic 12:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Minish

In Minish Cap, one of the Minish says they're respsonsible for the hearts and rupees found in random, odd places. It was to "help weary travelers" or something. I think he was in the rafters of a house.

[edit] Proposed Merge

Hi, I've proposed that Hylia be merged into this article, since it seems to be about the same place under a different name. Please say if I'm wrong! --JennyRad 22:37, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Correct. I agree with the merge.
The article does need some work though, but we'll look at then when / if decided what to do with it. Hyrule 09:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Right you are. Deco 01:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Hylia and Hyrule are not the same. As a Hyrulian is not neccesarily a Hylian. Hylia is an ancient kingdom, located in the same region as the "modern day" Hyrule, but thay are in fact different kingdoms (if my memory of my Link to the Past Strategy guide serves me...) That being said, I do agree that the articles should be merged, but a point should be made that they are not interchangeable terms. --Unreal McCoy
It looks like the Hylia article now redirects to the Hyrule article. Should the tag at the top be taken down?

[edit] Hyrule geography doesn't have an LttP section

And that's a problem. I'll write it if I don't here any objections. Sir Crazyswordsman 20:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hell, a lot of these articles don't have LttP sections. Sir Crazyswordsman 20:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I added a Link to the Past section to the Hyrule geography. Why wasn't there any added before? Dementus 12:23, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inappropriate tone

The article has three "It should be noted". That is not proper from an encyclopedia. Plus, comments from the fans are not notable for being included in the article. -- ReyBrujo 04:04, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need help concerning article

I'm new here, and I'm having trouble inserting a map of Hyrule from aLttP. Could someone get a map from A Link to the Past and put it in the article? Thank you! Dementus 13:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greeting

Should the greeting "hoy" be noted? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.188.172.165 (talkcontribs) .

[edit] Twilight Princess Hyrule screens

Anyone have any? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.190.90.188 (talkcontribs).

[edit] This article needs to be reworked in light of Twilight Princess - Hylia Clarification

Please view this video. Hylia is apparently the "world" in which all beings live in, and "Hyrule" is simply a kingdom within it. Hylia should either be changed from a redirect to it's own article, or should be included into this article somehow.--TSA 08:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not convinced that's what he's saying. He says that a race of sacred people called Hylians made Hyrule, and they were created by another, more sacred race. The Hylians lived in Hylia, but that doesn't mean that the whole world is Hylia (then wouldn't every race be Hylian? Like the Gorons, etc?). What you're stating may be true, but I don't know that this conversation is sufficient evidence. Sraan 05:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Twilight Princess Map of Hyrule?

As TP is the most recent Zelda game released, perhaps someone should include its map in the article, seeing as it has the most recent "revision" of Hyrule.
SouperAwesome 10:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Aye, but as no version of Hyrule is definitive, perhaps it would be more helpful to simply note that the current map depicts Zelda 2's Hyrule. - Klatrymadon

I believe we should use the Ocarina of Time map: http://www.zeldanederland.nl/images/hyrule/landen/hyrule.gif as it is inclusive of the land of Hyrule, and it also has the biggest spectrum, as the Lost Woods connect to Termina, making this the ideal map of Hyrule. Crazycarolina 03:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zelda II Hyrule

There is no official evidence that the small area on this map that appears to have Lake Hylia and the Lost Woods is the Hyrule featured in other games. A theory that circulated on zeldalegends.com suggested that this game took place in a different part of Hyrule entirely. Normally Death Mountain is in the East. On this map it is to the West. This suggests that Hyrule continues east of Death Mountain and this section appears ONLY in Zelda II.

Often called "Eastern Hyrule" this land is clearly not the Hyrule of older games. Only the area with Spectatcle Rock is the same as the other map. The lake and forest near that location are probably not Lake Hylia and the Lost Woods. If they are then that means the the Hyrule in other games is ridicously small compared to "Eastern Hyrule." The geography tends to change between games so having a random forest and lake near Spectactle Rock does not seem unreasonable to me.

The article lists that Spectactle Rock, Lake Hylia, The Lost Woods and the Western Graveyard are APPARENT. That is a COMPLETE matter of opinion and should not be in the article. FOr one thing, Lake Hylia didnt' appear until aLttP, though there was a lake in LoZ that was probably Hylia. The Lake in AoL is not nearly as obvious and is an unfounded view. To that note, we should probably remove that Lake Hylia is even in LoZ and say that it is speculated that said lake is Hylia.

They could very well be Lake Hylia and the Lost Woods but that is not known. I thought I'd bring this up as it seems worthy of edit in my opinion. Gavyn Sykes 16:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Areas of windwaker compared to loactions in TP

Im looking for the mother and child rocks as they are said to be the NW which is where they were in ww, death mountain is in the same spot as dragoon roost from ww and i wanna find more anyone else have any thing theyd like to share? - 69.248.175.25 18:27, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] sheikah section

It needs to be rewriten. Please?15:39, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of “Fate of Hyrule” section

I have removed the ’Fate of Hyrule” (presented below) section from this article, Wikipedia clearly states that “Encyclopedic content must be attributable to a reliable source”. The “Fate of Hyrule” section of this article was completely fabricated. Wikipedia is a encyclopedia, not the National Enquirer. Only concrete facts should be presented by Wikipedia articles, not fan based research and/or opinions.

“Although the land of Hyrule was flooded in The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, it is important to note that there are actually (at least) two Hyrulian universes in the Zelda series. During an interview conducted by Nintendo Dream in 2007, Zelda series director Eiji Aonuma confirmed the controversial Split Timeline theory as a fact. In this theory (now fact), the Zelda from the Ocarina of Time split Hyrule's developing history in two by returning Link to his childhood era. One universe (adult Link's time) ultimately leads up to the events of The Wind Waker while the other universe (child Link's time) leads up to the events of Majora's Mask and the original advent Legend of Zelda series. So, while the original Hyrule was flooded in one universe (adult Link's time), it continues existing in the other (child Link's time). “

As a side note: At the end of The Wind Waker, the Link and Zelda from that game resolve to find a new land (which Zelda claims will be a 'new Hyrule'), but King Daphnes Nohansen says, "But that land will not be Hyrule; it will be YOUR land." In the same game, the Deku Tree says, "Forests have great power; they can change one tiny island into a larger island. Soon, a day will come when all the islands are one, connected by earth and grove." This line hints that a country will one day form between the islands of the Great Sea (which are the highest points of the sunken Hyrule). It is unlikely, however, that any such land existing in the distant future would be the same Hyrule as currently resides at the floor of the Great Sea. Rather, it would be a country existing over the sunken Hyrule and not actually a new Hyrule entirely.”