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[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your change in the dhimmi article. --- Faisal 20:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Extraordinary rendition

The reason I reverted is that the information you added, while valid and useful, was already included in the rest of the section - so it was basically repeating what was already there. Welcome to Wikipedia by the way. Cynical 14:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Terrorist organizations

Hypnosadist, have you ever read this?

Encyclopedic:

  • X is on the U.S. Department of State's "Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations" list.
  • X, identified by the Y government as responsible for the PQR suicide bombings [or "who claimed responsibility for the PQR suicide bombings"], is classified as a terrorist group by A, B and C [countries or bodies].
  • Countries A, B and C regard X as a terrorist group [because...]

Not encyclopedic:

  • X is a terrorist group.
  • Y, leader of the X terrorists, ...
  • After a rapid military response, the X terrorists abandoned the hostages.

Do you see how the category is against Wikipedia policy? —Khoikhoi 21:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, cool. Adios. —Khoikhoi 22:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SURE

I am sorry!!!

Sure ! ASAP --Aminz 17:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

BTW, thanks for assuming good faith. I didn't mean to copy/paste that quote (as you can see the JE sentence is about Ummaids.) --Aminz 17:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Treatment of prisoners

Hi back atcha. Would you like to collaborate on Display of prisoners? --Uncle Ed 16:24, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guantanamo Bay Detainee Camp article

Hello, just wondering why you reverted my changes. Do you mean to ask on this talk page or the article's talk page? I've done both just in case. Madder 20:01, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Task force

Given that I'm currently involved in an arbitration case with many of the putative combatants, I'm slightly hesitant to make any rash moves here. I'd much prefer, personally, if we had some measure of internal consensus on the best way to proceed, as well as a bit more interest from project members willing to participate in the task force once it's created. Kirill Lokshin 13:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ANI

An AN/I discussion is up focusing on various personal attacks by H.E. against you and me. It's over at here. - Merzbow 01:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually that's poor misrepresentation of the ANI. The ANI is against YOU (Merzbow) for your usage of warning templates for threat and intimidation against myself and one other user, who has now responded to the ANI. So far, I've kept Hypnosadist out of the matter since I have no personal quarrel with him, just a difference of opinion. As the statement I made, which you (Merzbow) is being framed as a personal attack, it's inevitable I need to bring mention on the content that statement is in response to, and present a link to the Criticism of Islam talk page. Anyway, Hypnosadist, take a look at what's going on and add your view if you'd like to. His Excellency... 01:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Persecution of pagans

Thanks for your thanks. That was quick! Itsmejudith 19:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Check out Battle of the beanfield and New age travellers for some stuff that might well be relevant to this page. If it is, then the archives of the UK newspapers will provide a mountain of detail. Itsmejudith 09:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unbiased?

I don't believe either that it is possible to be unbiased. I do believe (in principle at least) in the Global Commons, therefore in the idea of Wikipedia, therefore in NPOV - until I am convinced otherwise. Some of the most POV-disputed articles are some of the best. It is miraculous how far you can go by describing what each side in a controversy thinks. By contrast, one of the worst is "Community", something everyone likes, but no-one knows anything about. Itsmejudith 21:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks very much Hypnosadist! Hypnosadist, I can see lots of discussions on the talk page of Dhimmi since last week (and other pages). Would you please let me know the sections of the talk page of Dhimmi in which the discussion is not settled down yet, so that I would be able to follow it. Thanks again! --Aminz 23:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I can see lots of your posts on the Dhimmi talk page. Thanks for your efforts.--Aminz 23:37, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I haven't followed the posts to the Arbcom page recently. I'll catch up in a minute. --Aminz 00:26, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


An Award
Barnstar awarded (along with the best wishes :P) by Aminz to Hypnosadist for his friendliness, hardwork and being a very helpful editor in wikipedia. --Aminz 00:48, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


You deserved it! Unfortunately, I know nothing about Al-manar and haven't heard about it before so I am not sure if I could be helpful there. --Aminz 01:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diffs

Brilliant! Especially appreciated as we are taking different views on H.E., but I hope this case can be put behind us soon. BTW did you see my message about links you may want to follow up for Persecution of Pagans?Itsmejudith 22:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree completely about the K word, which is racist language and should not be tolerated. I hope the arbs will impose an appropriate sanction. I think the issue is laid out clearly in the evidence and I can't add anything substantial. However, I will make a statement on it if asked to. The other cases are not quite so clear-cut but I wholeheartedly agree that editors should not be using abusive language to each other. Itsmejudith 13:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hezbollah Charter

If you do ever find it, feel free trying to white wash it yourself.--Paraphelion 13:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I hate arbitrators too. Also vandals.

I hate administrators because they are pushing their POV by using violence (ban or page protection). I hate vandals, because they are vandalising and reverting endlessly. I hate arbitrators because they think they are gods. Frofrol 20:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Break time from Dhimmi

~~~ has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Shifting alliances or what???? Itsmejudith 20:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your suggestion on the talk page of Dhimmi

Template:Smile2 the idea of including further details was inspiring. Aminz 21:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Hindu Unity

Hi, there are racist and biased people who are resisting cited information about the Hindu Unity's involvement in terrorism. The sources people like myself have used include the BBC...however, these people are calling even the BBC an anti-Hindu organization (yes, they are retarded). And when someone tries to put the truth on the page, they attack that person and call him relatives of Osama, etc. --Disinterested 09:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Ogham

They are fascinating aren't they? My initial interest was in Runic inscriptions since I grew up with them. I have to keep an eye out for that show. If you got the time, help is needed in expanding Ogham inscriptions. Cheers - Mceder 00:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] H.E's classic I'm not anti-semitic i just hate "the Jews"

I am keeping this bit of filth for evidence and show.http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration%2FHis_excellency%2FEvidence&diff=69701704&oldid=69699623

In my own defense: A man has a right to his opinion. I do feel Timothy Usher is a bigot. I do feel that Jews are screwing up the planet (though admittedly Muslims, by far, surpass the Jews in their capacity to destroy things). Look at history. Only recently has it become the norm to like Jews. That only came about after certain countries (eg America) adopted them as the collective dame-in-distress needing shelter and protection. Sort of the precursor to the chihuahua. Before then, Jews were hated in Europe and America alike..And everywhere else. We all know Jews were once banished from most culturally superior European countries. The only reason why Poland took them in was that they had loads of money. Probably the same reason why Washington panders to the now. Point is, alot of people dislike Jews. I'm entitled to, so long as I don't demonstrate that dislike on articles dealing with the topic of Jews. We don't penalize people for not liking things, do we? His Excellency... 00:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Is that not sick?Hypnosadist 20:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Al-Manar page

Thanks for your nice words. There's a bit more in the article to quote and cite, but I didn't get a chance to do it all last night. Last week's new yorker has an article with some stuff about the bombing by Israel. I'll see if anything is quotable in that piece. Elizmr 22:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Extraordinary rendition

Added notes and still reading. Lotsa repeats in article. Trying to cleanup further.--Tomtom9041 19:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] His excellency

I was unable to identify the user name His excellency is allegedly using as a sock from the information you provided. Fred Bauder 11:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harassment

I've blocked you for 3 hours; your mass messaging has crossed the line into harassment[1][2]. Take a break, and come back when you've cooled off. — Matt Crypto 12:51, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civility

Regarding edit: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --InShaneee 22:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

If you cannot act civil, YOU will be dealt with accordingly, like it or not. --InShaneee 22:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Not biting the newbies and allowing them to do as they please are two very different things. --InShaneee 22:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding this:

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. --InShaneee 22:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding this: You have now been blocked for making personal attacks. --InShaneee 16:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

For how long? you forgot say! Hypnosadist 18:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
PS have you actually read this InShaneee.

Remedies If you are personally attacked, you should ask the attacker to stop and note this policy. If he or she continues, consider following the dispute resolution process. You might also consider removing particularly clear-cut personal attacks per the guideline WP:RPA; however, you should be very careful not to define "personally attack" too broadly, or to do this too frequently. From a recent arbitration committee finding-of-fact:

The remove personal attacks guideline (and the application thereof) is controversial. It has often been abused by malefactors, and may not have community consensus. It should, at most, be interpreted strictly and used sparingly. [1] If you find yourself using this remedy frequently, you should reconsider your definition of "personal attack." When in doubt, follow the dispute resolution process instead.

In extreme cases, an attacker may be blocked under the "disruption" clause of the blocking policy, though the practice is almost always controversial. Personal attacks should be reported at WP:PAIN.

I've removed your personal attack above and extended your block. Those who cannot be respectful will not be allowed to disrupt the work of others. --InShaneee 21:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
And you've warned by others and arb com not to delete "personal attacks" on peoples talk pages, PUT IT BACK!Hypnosadist 23:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
PS you have constantly failed to be respectful to me, youve been threating and upperty.Hypnosadist 00:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Complaints about Islam and Slavery

1)No mention of the 25 million minimum people enslaved under the rule of islam! 2)No Mention that Mohammed owned slaves. 3)No mention that Mohammed raped his concubine in accordance with Islamic law. 4)No metion that slavery continued utterly unabaited for 1400 years under islamic law. Hypnosadist 18:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Dear Hypnosadist,

I will add point #2 to the article as I do have an academic source for it. Please find academic source for other claims and I'll add them to the article. Thanks. --Aminz 21:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Hypnosadist, what you need to do is provide authoritative sources for your assertions (#1/#3/#4 - although from looking at them some do contain some OR IMO). please ensure that whatever sources provided are in accordance with WP:RS (particular attn is recommended for noting about false authorities). if the sources given conflict with established sources like EoI, Schimmel and Lewis, then we need to agree in what way exactly such assertions are to be mentioned. thank you. ITAQALLAH 06:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
ITAQALLAH i must appolagise for my behavior to you the other day it was uncalled for. Below are some of the sources;

1)Paul Bairoch suggests a figure of 25 million African people subjected to the Arab slave trade, as against 11 million that arrived in the Americas from the transatlantic slave trade. Paul Bairoch, Mythes et paradoxes de l'histoire économique, (1994). See also: Economics and World History: Myths and Paradoxes (1993) PS this is the figure for the trade of people from africa to Arabia. There is also the trade in white slaves from Albania,Bulgaria, Chechnia etc.

3)is Maria al-Qibtiyya, and by rape i mean it in the modern waestern concept of "Lack of FULL concent".

4)i'm looking for info on the slave markets shut down by the british at the end of WW1 to 1923 ish, ie in Ottoman controled area's that were "given" to the british.

If sources (that are notable) conflict then both sides are mentioned with whom is makeing the assertions so that readers can make up their minds. OK bye bye i'm off for my first holiday in 10 years! so i won't be posting for a few days.Hypnosadist 09:15, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adam Gadahn, Robert Fisk, and the "Invitation to Islam"

Hi there. I stumbled into this issue by accident, not realizing (naively) that anyone would take issue with the relevance of Adam Gadahn praising Robert Fisk and George Galloway by name in an Al-Qaeda video. Only after I made an edit including that information in Fisk's article (under "Praise") did I notice the minor revert war involving mainly yourself and Irishpunktom.

In replacing the information, I've made what I think is a fair compromise, including reliable sources and a counterbalance of Bin Laden characterizing Fisk as "neutral". I'm not sure if you're still interested in pursuing this issue, but if so, I just wanted to let you know that I am in agreement with you that the information should be there, and for my part I'm willing to take the issue to mediation/arbitration if necessary. Hiddekel 19:48, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Friend of chavs???

Hi, nice to see you on chav. "Friends of chavs" in the Wikipedia sense are editors who use the page to declare that named individuals are chavs - rather like "friends of gays". I on the other hand have friends, family and neighbours who might be labelled with the chav stereotype but are actually very nice. Re Persecution of heathens is South Ronaldsay child abuse scandal relevant? Or the whole issue of so called "satanic child abuse"? Itsmejudith 17:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I live in a mixed area with lots of net curtain twitchers. So I have to assert the right of a teenager to walk down the road in head to toe Pineapple, even if she does look ridiculous, without the local Neighbourhood Watch vigilante squad coming out in force. Peace. Itsmejudith 18:27, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ranking of military strength

Hi. Do you know of any sources that give the ranking of different countries' military strength? I wonder which countries follow the US. What I am looking for is a "top ten" or something, idealy detailing both conventional and nuclear capability. Dianelos 08:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help

They've decided to keep The Quran and science, could you help with that? Arrow740 07:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Persecution of heathens

Hi, you might like to look at Sami people for some material that might be relevant. Itsmejudith 07:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hamas

Please stop Rev my edits in the "2006 Israel-Gaza conflict" section of Hamas if you have a dispute about the Humman Rights bit with someone else, fine! but please don't Revert my factual section along with it. Kindly restore this section. Thanks. Yas121 00:14, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Islamic extremist terrorism

The topic is the Quran! The capter is called Interpretation of the Quran! But some wikipedians do not allow me to quote all necessary quotes. You can not compromise the Quran.DAde 15:09, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Those fascists

If you see the third paragraph, it says "In recent weeks, intelligence experts have been warning about possible attacks by militants angry at Manila's support for the US-led "war on terror".

Personally I think it was stupid, childish, anti-sharia, & counter-productive . Those dead people had nothing to do with American or Philpine policies, neither will their death change anything, other than causing more hate . I hope muslims learn to strategize, & not to get provoked at every "cracker" that is thrown upon them, & definitely not react in a counter-productive, un-islamic manner . Cheers! F.a.y.تبادله خيال /c 02:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Jizya

Truthpedia is at it again on Jizya. Jayjg (talk) 17:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Battle of Ghazni

Hi There,

Just created this article, Battle of Ghazni during the First Anglo-Afghan War. I was wondering if you could fix up anything which is incorrect or add to this battle or link this battle to other articles so that it generates traffic. Thankyou. Mercenary2k 02:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy solstice/Yule

A bit belated, but knowing your interest in Paganism (although perhaps your interest is just to defend adherents against persecution), I thought I'd wish you a good solstice and Yuletide. If not appropriate, please just transfer the wishes to Christmas or the season generally. Look forward to reading your edits in the New Year. Itsmejudith 00:32, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Dhimmi

The article was all in the past tense, making it look like dhimmitude is over, no longer part of Sharia, no longer applied in Saudia Arab, Iran, and Yemen, etc. I fixed it up, but I'm expecting some fierce resistance from the wikijihadis. Maybe you could keep an eye on it. Arrow740 22:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your request

Not sure where you wanted me to comment, but my dealings were limited to the AN/I page where I was requesting assistance and that person did not offer any, just threats and refusals to hear my side of the story. It was quite disrespectful in my eyes as I tried to explain further and they just threatened that if I did not conform to their decision I would be blocked, and if I continued to attempt to tell me side I would be blocked. Censorship and shutting people up is not a proper way to handle things in my opinion and further their rudeness and "do as I say" attitude was very unwelcoming. I was almost prepared to leave the project but I remembered my dealings with other admins like CBD and Thatcher131 that I respect highly and follow their calls because of that. --NuclearZer0 01:29, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

My experience with InShaneee is probably best summarized by my comment at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/InShaneee#Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute. He was basically unwilling to reconsider his actions when confronted by other users and administrators (which I consider a behavioural essential for anyone), hypocritically violated WP:WHEEL, and used his admin powers to try evading an RfC on himself. --tjstrf talk 01:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
What'd he do to try and evade an RfC? - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, that was how I perceived it. He blocked you when you were announcing your intention to file one. Oh, there was also this mess[3] (scroll to bottom of page), where he was edit warring with another administrator over whether the other admin could list an article on WP:PARA or not. You'd probably want to ask User:Moriori about that one, since I still can't figure out why the hell that was even an issue between them. --tjstrf talk 08:22, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I guess this is the section for responses to your inquiries about User:InShaneee. I wrote up an outside view on a couple of disputed blocks in his RfC, so that will contain my analysis as of then. I don't believe I have intersected with him much since that time, except for letting him know that he was being discussed on ANI once or twice (such as last week with a block involving a dispute over a project tag), so I don't have too much else to say, except that I hope things can be worked out. Regards, Newyorkbrad 16:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I probably was just as much at fault in my case as User:InShaneee. He is associated in some official capacity with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Paranormal. He put the project tag on the talk page of Spiritualism, a religious history article that I have worked a lot on. The tag contained a rating, saying that the article was B-class. I wanted to know exactly why it received that rating, so I wrote a message on the talk page that the rating would be removed until some helpful comments accompanied the rating. InShaneee returned to restore the rating, without leaving any comments, and I removed them again, writing on his talk page that he read the message on the article talk page. He responded angrily, or so it seemed to me, and refused to provide any comments. Eventually another administrator on the paranormal project User:J.smith was able to explain things to me--that the rating really didn't mean anything and that if I wanted feedback I could always ask for a peer review. So things calmed down. One funny thing, though, afterwards he looked at things I had recently edited, and went after one of those, putting a delete tag on it. I was OK with the delete tag (I had earlier put one on the article myself), but it did seem kind of sneaky and vindictive. Anyway, I'm not mad at him and I don't expect to run across him again--he mostly works on popular culture topics, such as comic books. Anthon.Eff 17:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Hypnosadist, I am concerned that you appear to be trying to recruit a mob rather than helping to resolve a dispute. I am going to remove your boilerplate user talk posts. Guy (Help!) 17:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Given that there was an RFC regarding Inshanee's conduct as an administrator, I think the key question would be whether Inshanee and the other RFC participants took the comments to heart. In other words, Hypnosadist, I hope that you will look for evidence of Inshanee being civil in the conduct of his admin duties after the RFC, as well as for evidence of incivility. If there's improvement, particularly marked improvement, after the RFC, then it worked the way it was supposed to. (Similarly, given that there was what looks like a a substantial opinion that the block was justified, but uncivil, Link to the Past has also taken the RFC to heart and quit the conduct that led to the block in the first place). Thanks, TheronJ 20:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
As I see it, that particular RFC concerning InShaneee's uncivil behaviour towards Link to the Past revealed that that particular problem was part of a pattern of behaviour. I think there is resistance to any discussion that calls into question the massive powers of admins, without any accountability. It goes to the heart of the fundamental problems in Wikipedia. I fear that this is the reason why admins are trying to stifle this debate about InShaneee. I am watching this carefully to see whether Hypnosadist is give the chance to allow InShaneee to be judged by his peers and deal with admin abuse.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 20:48, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
With respect, the reason why we have dispute resolution is normally so that we can fix problems without Arb Comm involvement. If the RFC made Inshanee a better administrator, then, IMHO, the problem is solved, and good for everyone, complainants, busybodies, and Inshanee him/herself, for making Wikipedia a better place. If the RFC revealed problems that Ishanee hasn't corrected, then maybe an RFA is required. I'm just a busybody myself, but if I were on ArbComm, the two questions I would most like to see answered are (1) has Hypnosadist made a serious attempt to resolve the problems constructively; and (2) has Inshanee made a serious attempt to resolve any problems that arose. In this respect, evidence of actions before the RFC are interesting background, but they don't answer the key questions. Thanks, TheronJ 21:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with "has Hypnosadist made a serious attempt to resolve the problems constructively". The limit of my dealings with Inshaneee are; he banned me for incivility and not respecting him then he called me a douche. Then we had an RfC(which was started by someone else) and nothing happened, and now TheronJ (93 theron) says that just gave Inshanee a clean sheet. When i have tried to talk to inshaneee he has banned me so now i don't bother.Hypnosadist 21:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm just offering advice, which is what I understood you were asking for with regard to a possible Inshanee RFC. You can obviously take it for whatever you think it's worth. I had never given any thought to Inshanee before I saw your postings on Brad's and Nuclear's talk pages, so I don't know the background beyond what was written in the RFC and in your evidence section above. What do you want to get out of this? Would (1) Inshanee not calling more people "douches", (2) an apology, or (3) only de-sysopping satisfy you? My personal feeling is that RFCs are a method of dispute resolution - if it's at all possible, everyone involved in one should try to resolve their dispute. If possible, I would like to see that happen. TheronJ 21:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry for snapping Therion but if i did not believe in a cabal then this current set of event would make me believe in the Cabal. For a start a judgement against Inshaneee so he knows he did wrong would be a start.Hypnosadist 22:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just don't.

I strongly urge you not to reinsert your posts to user talk pages. There is ample past precedent for removal of such postings. Guy (Help!) 18:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Vandalism"

Please be careful what you call "vandalism". See Wikipedia:Vandalism. Specifically, the edit you made here was summarized as "rv vandalism", but this was not vandalism. Calling other people's edits vandalism is unhelpful and can lead to unnecessary conflict. Friday (talk) 18:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your message seeking information regarding the behaviour of the admin InShaneee. This has now been deleted by another admin and I have been instructed not to revert this deletion. However, I am an interested party as I have reponded to InShaneee's RfA. Consequently, I would be happy to receive any information from you regarding your endeavours. As I am requesting this, any such message cannot be regarded as either spam or canvassing.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 19:16, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inshanee's arb com

I'm going to put my primary case together over the next few days, then i'll start it then contact every user in Inshaneee's admin talk pages as well as Inshaneee himself. Hopefully this is the right thing to do (one of the admins reading this please tell me if its not), although i think its spamming. Thanks to the people who have supported me.Hypnosadist 01:33, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

No, don't send it to everyone on his talk page. You should just send notification to the parties named in the dispute. Usually that would be Inshanee, you, and anyone else heavily involved in the disagreement. Note that all 'parties' to the arbitration may be subject to rulings from the ArbCom. --CBD 19:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I am not allowed to contact people to find if they have a dispute with Inshaneee, and as this is about his attitude as an admin to the many people he deals with. There are no other parties involved because if i contact them my content is deleted because i did not send out enough messages [4]. Make up your minds!Hypnosadist 20:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Heh. We are not the Borg. Minds differ. However, standard practice for arbitrations is to keep the parties limited only to those individuals highly involved in the dispute. ArbCom procedures also require that all such parties be notified with a message like the one below. Notifying other people, beyond the parties, may result in accusations of 'spamming' or 'trying to gang up on someone'. Sending out mass notices which include people on both sides of a dispute is sometimes accepted, but in other instances still gets booted on 'spam' grounds. Placing a notice in a public place, especially somewhere that the dispute has already been discussed, is usually acceptable. All that said... I wouldn't worry about it. If there is something that arbitration cases aren't it is 'subtle and easily overlooked'. If you file it they will come. --CBD 23:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the friendly words and the sage advice. "If you file it they will come." LOL! Hypnosadist 23:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I've come up with the wording for the not spam i have to send out when i start the arb com, how about this;

[edit] Inshaneee the Admin

A Request for arbitration about Inshaneee and his actions as an admin has been filed by Hypnosadist. If you want to have an imput into this case go there. sig

Hope that is neutral enough for you admins.Hypnosadist 03:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks from a non-Admin. KP Botany 04:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm not directly involved in any of this, but I did read about it on the Admins' "Noticeboard". More power to you, Hypnosadist! DavidCBryant 23:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response to talk page comment

Yes, I think that is a completely reasonable request. Hypno, I apologize for my use of language with you during our encounter several months ago. I was going through a rough period IRL, and I let my frustrations get the best of me. That language is innapropriate, doubly so on wiki. I'm sorry. I've certainly learned from that period, and I hope we can both move on from it. --InShaneee 00:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Well done

The Resilient Barnstar
For finishing with a smile. KP Botany 02:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Hypnosadist, for going one step further than anyone had the right to ask you when you were thoroughly pissed off. Thanks for actually listening to what some people were trying to say to you, when no one seemed to be listening to what you were saying. KP Botany 02:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Islamist Terrorism

Hi there, hows it going?

I just wanted to thank you for all your input on the current naming debate on Islamist Terrorism, especially for your expressing your concerns about what might happen in the event of altering the name.

Ideally I'd like to build some sort of consensus which will accomodate the ideas of both sides. This is obviously not as straightforward as it sounds, but I believe it can be done, and in doing so the quality and stability of both the article and the subject will be increased significantly. This is because, as you pointed out, there is a risk of information being removed unfairly, a new - seperate - article is created to deal with the same subject, and the same problems reccur.

But, by coming to a common agreement about the article's name, we can make sure that the struggle over POV is ended. Furthermore, by selecting a name that deals with the full subject of radical Muslims committed to waging a violent Jihad against all things they deem to be "unislamic", we can also make sure that everything - whether it be terrorism, ideology and key figures/groups - is included and cannot be tampered with unduly.

Believe me, I understand your concerns. But by turning the article into a tug of war, I think it will do less to improve your ability to express valid viewpoints than by productive dialogue. I don't take it upon myself as an outsider to justify the mess that Muslim societies are in, but as an academic I believe we can achieve more if we all work together. And the first step can be agreeing to a better title.

What do you think?

Regards, Alexander.Hainy 21:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] re:[5]

Hypnosadist, either verify the information, or do not reinsert it. non-English sources are acceptable, but you can't seem to prove that Ibn al-Qayyim has said exactly what is attributed to him, despite my repeated requests. re-inserting it, in spite of knowing that you have not been able to verify it, and in the light of the other OR you have reinstated without justification, amounts to disruption. ITAQALLAH 16:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

you're the one pressing for its inclusion, so the burden is upon you. in any case, i have already told you that i would be unable to for various reasons. ITAQALLAH 21:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

For restoring true information to the article Islamic military jurisprudence‎. NN 02:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Slavery

Hi, i think the argument for the inclusion of this link is self evident. Muhammad is an exemplar for the islamic faith, his buying, selling and capturing of slaves indicates the complete acceptance of slavery as an act a good muslim can do. What is the Sunnah if it is not the example of Muhammed recorded for all time. Hypnosadist 03:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

On one level, yes - which is part of the reason i didn't remove it. But as it currently stands, it is too easily read by some as just being a gratuitious jab. Perhaps it can be reworded, replaced or linked better into the article. TO be honest, i can see both sides, and I will watch the discussion play out and maybe my opinion will change. Merbabu 03:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm a fence sitter on this one - for now, maybe. I was just trying to get some order put into the 'war'. Merbabu 03:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Ha ha - sitting out can be hard. i've tried. I don't have strong opinions or even much knowledge on the subject But I've got issues with much of DY71's interpretation of WP guidelines. And when i checked some of his online sources, what he was putting in the article were very flexible, often complete distortions and additions to what was being said in the article. I'd had issues with DY71 on another article where his edits were blatantly inappropriate, and on this slavery one there are also blatantly inappropriate ones. To make things difficult though, he's now brought up one that is not so clear. Perhaps you can think of way link/use it better. Merbabu 03:21, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 8 March

I guess my issues are still less about the facts but how they are presented. DY71 is an extraordinarily sloppy and POV in his judgements not just here but on other articles (which is how I got to this one). Whereas you come across as at least more impartial and able to see things in context. ie, it's clear he has an agenda (he's said it himself) and it's not so much about wanting to 'censure' rather be very careful about attributing, generalisations as universal cookie-cutter fact (as if Islam is the same everywhere) and interpretting. He's very selective about what and how he uses information. I'd just like to see an article born out of an objective desire to present the facts as they stand (nice or ugly), but this contibutor is clearly motivated by an agenda to pin some blame. --Merbabu 06:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Women Captives

Hey, Please take a look at this [6] edit and revert if you think right. This anon editor keeps reverting me without giving reasons and I don't want to violate 3RR. NN 14:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Islam and slavery revised lead proposal

Dear HS, as an interested editor would you please offer your opinion at article 62 on the talk page re this proposal. DavidYork71 08:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Islam and slavery

Hi Hypnosadist, just a word about some of your posts. It really isn't appropriate to allude to the hypothetical rape of other editors, which some women in particular might find very offensive, [7] and comments like "take the shame" [8] are provocative. It's best to stick to discussing the content rather than the contributors. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 18:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:56, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] RFC/discussion of article Flying Spaghetti Monster

Hello, Hypnosadist. As a prominent contributor to Flying Spaghetti Monster, you may want to be aware that a request for comments has been filed about it. The RFC can be found by the article's name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found on Talk:Flying Spaghetti Monster, in case you wish to participate. Thank you for your contributions. -- MikeURL 00:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

The professional career that you removed from the article was extensively covered by the 9/11 Commission. There is probably no details left uncovered in this. So I wanted to see what you think. [9] ViriiK 11:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I updated the page and what do you think regarding this change? ViriiK 11:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Islam and slavery lead

Dear interested editor:
Please visit here: [10] in the next few days and give your vote and your proposals on how the lead may be reworked and reformed to meet GA criteria before next nomination.DavidYork71 04:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smile!

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[edit] Thanks for the complement

Thanks for the complement.

I took a look at the article. There was one aspect of the story that I think was missing from the article. One of the news stories I saw on TV mentioned that Iraq and Iran had a conflict over their maritime boundary. It showed a map of Iraq's version of their territorial waters. Iraq's version of it's territorial water was a narrow twisty triangle.

It would be great if we could find a map that showed the overlapping claims.

Just as the Americans had inserted small teams of special forces, performing reconnaisiance, into Iraq, prior to the invasion, it is believed that they have inserted small clandestine teams into Iran. So, it is not unreasonable for the Iranians to assume a small boat that appeared to be entering their territory, was inserting further recon teams.

The clandestine recon teams in Iraq aimed lasers at targets, so smart bombs could be guided to hit them.

It seems to me that if the Iranians really thought this was an act of war the Marines should be protected by the Geneva Conventions — they were in uniform after all. If the Iranians thought they were spying, the Geneva Conventions would require them to convene "competent tribunals" first. I have heard no indications that they have done so. But these tribunals can be convened very quickly. So they may have already done so. If there competent tribunal concluded they were spying, then they could be stripped of POW status.

There was a case, a few years ago, of a Canadian photo-journalist of Iranian descent. She was arrested after she took some photos of a military prison. She subsequently died in custody, a few days later. There doesn't seem any doubt that her wounds showed she died while being tortured. Like Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Uzbekistan, torture is a routine interrorgation tool in Iran. There were serious calls to break off diplomatic relations with Iran over their stone-walling.

It would be good to point to an article about the Iraq-Iran boundary dispute, if we had one.

The 2004 incident concerned the Brits patrolling the river itself, while the recent incidident took place off the mouth of the river.

I'll go look to see if I can find a map of the overlapping territorial claims.

Cheer! -- Geo Swan 11:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brits in Guantanamo

Hi Hypno. Of course you're right. Although the ex-residents did not just have visas: they were long term residents and, at least in the case of Omar Deghayes, brought up in the UK. Deghayes has a lot of family in Sussex and overwhelming support here, so forgive me for forgetting for a moment that he does not actually have citizenship. Itsmejudith 07:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. There are individual articles on each of the five but it would be really good to bring them together in a summary article. The article on Omar Deghayes is well referenced and reliable material can be found on the website of the Brighton Argus and other newspapers. The Amnesty International site is also a good bet for reliable stuff. Clive Stafford Smith is representing some or all of them and there may be material already in his article or downloadable from reliable web sources if you google his name. I'm going to be really on wikibreak from tomorrow so won't be able to help more for a bit. Thanks very much for this. Itsmejudith 17:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Al-manar

Hi, I reviewed the article and found that in should be improved. I put my suggestion on the talk page and replaced the GAtag with OnHold tag. I think wikipedians who have worked on Hezbollah article especially User:George.Saliba, User:mceder, User:GHcool, User:Elizmr and me can help you with this article. God bless you.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 07:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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