Image talk:Hybridpolargrizzlybear.jpg
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[edit] Wrong Tag
This is a copyrighted image that has been released by a company or organization to promote their work or product in the media, such as advertising material or a promotional photo in a press kit.
This has to be the wrong tag.
- Then feel free to edit it. The summary clearly explains who owns the photo, why it is used, and where it came from. --JOK3R 00:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
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- It is not a promotional image, and we do not use very, very new images for fair use, because it puts us in direct competition with news sources. --Fastfission 05:38, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree, I fail to see how this counts as fair use. It looks more like an argument that "it is impossible to find a free image, so this copyright violation is acceptable" than "there are substantial legal grounds to believe this is fair use". On one talk page I even saw this image described as "public domain" which is, frankly, absurd (apparently it had been "released to the public" because it was put on the AP newswire, and was therefore PD...). A circumstance I can imagine this image being fair use in is if the particular image itself becomes a contentious issue in itself, and there is extensive discussion about whether it is a fake. In that instance I can imagine a valid fair use claim being made. At the moment, shouldn't this be marked as "fair use and lacking rationale"? I can't see anything approaching a fair use rationale at the moment (so technically this is a candidate for speedy deletion...) TheGrappler 20:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I would not risk keeping it for the moment - this is indeed a case where our use of an image that appears to be privately owned could diminish its commercial value. In a few weeks, we will see if it is still widely circulating on the internet, which indicates that the owner is not bothering to enforce his right to exclusive use. Our fair use claim will be stronger if the image owner's laxity has already allowed the commercial value of the work to diminish. Furthermore, we should crop it down to just the bear (we have no fair use claim to depict the hunters, who also have publicity rights) and use a lower res than the original. BD2412 T 14:53, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Picture not from CWS
I emailed the Canadian Wildlife Services, to whom the picture was credited in the news media, and they deny that they took the picture, or have rights to it. Following is their reply.
- Hello, John,
- Thank you for your inquiry.
- Please note that certain media outlets have incorrectly attributed ownership of the photograph of the polar bear hybrid and hunter to the Canadian Wildlife Service (CWS) , Environment Canada. The photograph was taken by an American hunter, Jim Martell, and all authorizations to use, reproduce and distribute the photograph must be obtained from Mr. Martell.
- The photograph has not been authorized by CWS for publication anywhere and the department is currently in the process of correcting the error.
- Thank you
- Information Staff / Personnel de renseignements
- Canadian Wildlife Service / Service canadien de la faune
- Environment Canada / Environnement Canada
- cws-scf@ec.gc.ca
- Tel:(819) 997-1095
- Fax:(819) 997-2756
All the newspapers are using this picture, and several of them credit it to the CWS, incorrectly. In light of this, I move to have this picture deleted. I am unfamiliar with the formal procedure for proposing an image for deletion, so might someone else do it? - Torgo 20:26, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- If this is the only image of such an animal available, then there is solid ground to claim fair use of this image, in which case we should apply the {{fairusein}} template. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 22:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Thank you. And I agree completely. Clown, could you apply the proper template? I think certain "admins" here are getting a little trigger happy without looking into the full story, here. --JOK3R 12:58, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
