User talk:Hurricane Angel

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Hey guys, as I'm becoming more and more active in the editing I think someone might have an opinion. Tell me what I'm doing wrong and I'll work on it... eventually. --Hurricane Angel 01:23, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] .yu league

Please see Talk:Yugoslav First League. --Joy [shallot] 02:27, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Belgrade Arena

I somewhat improved your Belgrade Arena article. Please take a look, and thanks for the idea! --Meelosh 23:56, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Balkans forums

"You're PANONIAN from the Balkans forums (ezboard), are you not?"

Yes, but I spend more time on Wikipedia now. Do I know you perhaps? User:PANONIAN

[edit] Re: .yu cup

You're right, that's the way to go. I merely split them up in that article as a first step. --Joy [shallot]

[edit] del tag

Please never use the del tag - always give a reason for deletion - use {{db|reason}}. This applies to four Dreamcast images you have tagged. -- RHaworth 19:22, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tito's Sins?

You wrote: Is anyone aware of the multiple crimes he committed? I've only heard things from the internet, i'm currently trying to get a book on tito to solve this mystery. But I've heard a fleeting rumour of him being an anti-serb and to killing a large number of Serbian intellectuals? --Hurricane Angel 04:23, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Regarding Tito's sins. Tito was a dictator and self-imposed president for life of the Communist Yugoslav regime. All political opponents that were a threat to the so-called unity and brotherhood of Yugoslavs and their country were 'taken care of'. This was the case with the Croat Ustaše and the Serb Četniks alike. Both organisations had established strong bases outside of Yugoslavia after WWII. The Croat Ustaše were especially strong in Australia and South America mostly Argentina while the Serb Četniks were very strong in America, Switzerland, and Sweden. Note this is probably still the case.
However, both groups tried several times to start revolts in Yugoslavia so a Great Croatia or Great Serbia could be formed. Every time Tito and his regime 'took care' of the rising problems. Also, the Ustaše and Četniks were naturally still active in Yugoslavia but to a minor extent and some people openly supported one or the other and they were also 'taken care of'.
Note also that Tito has mostly since 1992 been accused of being anti-Croat by Croat nationalists and anti-Serb by Serb nationalists and I would say that he was none of the two and that it was more or less equal between the Croats and Serbs anyway.
Conclusivly, Tito and his regime did commit crimes against Serb and Croat nationalists but it was more or less equal and I would not call him an anti-Serb nor an anti-Croat. By the way, Tito's third wife Jovanka is an ethnic Serb.
Zec 01:18, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category talk:Yugoslav football

This category was nominated by my bot because it was part of a massive rename to conform with Naming conventions. Over 500 categories were renamed, and it would take a very long time for a human to add the tags. The actual nomination was done by Rick Block and was posted on CFD for a week. You can see the archived discussion for details. The category was not deleted, but renamed to Category:Football in Yugoslavia. «»Who?¿?meta 04:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Our forum

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[edit] Your email

Sorry for the delay. As far as I can tell, you've never been blocked (see block list). I have no idea what's causing your editing permission troubles. // Pathoschild 10:27, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] World Cup vote

With your neutral vote would you anticipate that the vote would be discounted or should it be used to calculate the total votes and the consequent percentage majority and thus be registered as a half vote for for and a half vote against the move? Jooler 10:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YUBA league

I agree that you have an equally valid point on the nature of the conflict; I just think that the term "civil war" perpetuates an incorrect image in the minds of the greater population of the world. It is, after all, your article, my edit was quite random, and I would be happy with any other variant ("Yugoslav wars", "wars of succession", "armed conflict", etc.). Damir 21:35, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tito and the Donauschwaben

There's lots of books written on the subject, some of the better known English language works even having been authored by Serbs. I've heard plenty of eyewitness accounts and been to mass graves (for example, Rudolfsgnad/Knicanin) and heard of more (Gakowo) which now have memorials erected in Serbian, albeit only with toothless mentions of disease and starvation as causes of death. When I go to my parents' I will get the names of some of the books, but in general I feel it's like the Holocaust - since I'm not quoting death counts or other statistics, it seems to me it's just a generally accepted event. Adammathias

Here are the lists of some books:

  • Jedan svet na Dunavu - Razgovori i komentari (German (I'll translate) One/A people on the Danube - The fate/destiny of the Germans in Yugoslavia under the communist Tito regime) - by Nenad Stefanovic, published 1997 in Beograd
  • Geschichte der Donauschwaben (Story/History of the Danube Swabians) - 1989 from the Donauschwaebische Kulturstiftung, Munich, Germany by Josef Volkmar Senz
  • Genocide of the Ethnic Germans in Yugoslavia 1944-1948 - 2001 from the Donauschwaebische Kulturstiftung, Munich, Germany with foreward by Alfred-Maurice de Zayas
  • A Terrible Revenge: The Ethnic Cleansing of the East European Germans, 1944-1950 (german title is somewhat less descriptive: Anmerkungen zur Vertreibung der Deutschen aus dem Osten (Notes/observations on the driving-out of the Germans of the East)- from St. Martin's Press, New York, USA by Alfred-Maurice de Zayas

De Zayas is a fairly famous historian, whose most well-known work is probably Nemesis at Potsdam, followed by The Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau. I'm not sure if Stefanovic is an ethnic Serb (maybe you could confirm that for me, if it's one of those names where it's easy to tell), but the work was written and published in Serbian originally.

In any case, all the sources say that "soviet/russian troops and bands of partisans" carried out the executions, looting, rape, internment, and killing, and usually break it down as the Soviet troops who provided the support/cover, the cattle cars (for deportations), and the official reason ("to pay the debt induced by them graciously liberating us"), and the partisans who did most of the raping and killing and abduction of children ("for reeducation") - its scary to think that some of the people out there who deny/minimize all this might be those same brainwashed children.

See also: Aktion Intelligenzija, AVNOJ

Hope that helps. Hvala lepo & multumesc Adammathias

[edit] Pozdrav

Vidim da imamo neke zajedničke poglede. Htio bi stupit u kontakt sa tobom pa ako koristiš ICQ, MSN, Skype, IRC reci mi. POzdrav!:-)Luka Jačov 08:36, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pozdrav

Zdravo Anđele. Vidim da imaš sjajne izmene na Wikipediji. Trabal bi znati da postoji i Wikipedija na srpskohrvatskom jeziku, pa i na njoj možeš uređivati. Pozdrav, --M. Pokrajac 23:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yugoslav Cup

Hey man, your edit is much welcome, I'm curious as to what brought you there because I noticed most of your edits are related to United States railroads and such... --Hurricane Angel 22:02, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I was actually just clicking random links with some friends. It took us a few minutes to realize what sport it was so I figured a couple words couldn't hurt.  :-) Brianmcfa

[edit] So I am told

You're right Hurricane, I've done some research this past day and spoke to some friends I have here in London. Apparently, the term "Yugoslav" is tabboo in censa published in countries who oversaw the destruction of the country and its name, ie.Central European countries and Nato cronies. In 2001, it is known that dozens of people wrote Yugoslav and the term did not appear in the listings when published the following year. Some crazy national names with fewer than five people were apparent but "Yugoslav" was not. Same has applied in France and Germany. On your home front, there are two countries which accept it: Serbia & Montenegro's federal government allows it as does Bosnia & Herzegovina. Croatia is alleged (cannot be proved) to declare Yugoslavs as Croatian, and Slovenia and Macedonia seem to do the same thing. It is a breech of human rights and democracy; I notice you are Romanian. Your other nation state, as it were, Romania, is probably one of the only countries which also accepts any national name - Hungary too now disputes Yugoslav. The people seriously need to make their own presence better felt and better known. Thank you for trying to help Hurricane, all info is useful. Celt 17 March 2006

Wrong. There is a category in the Croatian census from 2001 that allows that form. See the official page of Državni zavod za statistiku ("state institute of statistics"), here's the link [1]. Find the row "Jugoslaveni". Kubura 13:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Hi, Hurricane Angel! Could you help me translating a small text from English to Romanian? Arges 05:15, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article Improvement Belgrade

You may wish to vote for Belgrade at the Article Improvement Drive page, here. --estavisti 21:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation

Hello! I invite you to join the WikiProject Serbia. All the best, --serbiana - talk 02:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding 72.140.99.7

You can leave warnings yourself, you know. When you revert vandalism, just go to their talk and leave one of these warning messages there. Once you give him a final warning (the 3rd column from the right on that page), you can report him to WP:AIV. --Rory096(block) 04:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Mirko_Vucinic.jpg

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Unfortunately, that image can't be used on Wikipedia. The website only allows "personal, non-commercial use". Wikipedia isn't "personal use", and "non-commercial use only" images aren't permitted on Wikipeda. --Carnildo 20:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FSJ Serbian/Croatian

Hi,

Please, go to Football (soccer) and check interwiki. As you can see, interwiki links are: bs:Nogomet (bosnian), hr:Nogomet (croatian), sr:Фудбал (fulbal, serbian).

Croatian language was repressed in Yugoslavia.

OK? --Ante Perkovic

I didn't want to partonise You, I just didn't have time for more elaborate answer. Sorry for misunderstanding.

I'm 31 and I lived in Yugoslavia from my birth (1975) until it disapeared. I still live in Split. --Ante Perkovic 20:23, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Exactly, they "aggredd" (it was the 1950's, so term "agree" may have many meanings ;) to use the word "fudbalski". But, as your father's friend told You, they decided to use serbian word, and croatian word (which is different, as You said yourself) was not used. I said something like this in the beginning. :) Anyway, this explains my changes on FSJ page. --Ante Perkovic 06:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Listen, I'm not goint to discuss here about whether the croatian was supressed or not, just because i don't have that much time and because it's not related with the subject. The important thing is:

"Fudbal" is serbian, right? Yes. So is "fudbalski". The word "fudbalski" has no meaning whatsoever in croatian.
"nogomet" is croatia, right? Yes. so is "nogometni".

So "Fudbalski Savez Jugoslavije" is in serbian language. That is all I'm trying to prove. If You have more questions related to this, I'll be glad to answer.

I don't want to discuss any other subject, not because I don't like to chat, baut because I'm dealing with serbian propaganda that is drawing fake maps.

Regards, Ante Perkovic 07:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


Hi. Yes, You are right, it's a name, the same in all languages. I didn't think of that from that perspective. Now I see.

Anyway, I believe that, in the article, it should be just "serbian: Fudbalski Savez Jugoslavije". It was the same in Slovenian and in Macedonian, I suppose, but the name was taken from serbian, so it should be best to just put like this. --Ante Perkovic 07:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada

I think i told u before and yes that was one of the reasons. Luka Jačov 09:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Serbs and Croats

TALK:Yugoslavs. Please show me where I said they are genetically, linguistically different. Thanks. 72.144.150.20 18:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Salut!

Wow, you're really into football :))) I'd like to ask you a question related to a football player, I hope you can answer it. Where was Dragoljub Brnović born? I know it was somewhere in Montenegro, Yugoslavia, but I can't seem to find any information where exactly, I mean, which town or city. Do you know? Mulţumesc.

La revedere!

--GOD OF JUSTICE 20:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chemistry articles

All I can say is...wow!!! I don't know much about chemistry, but I know hard work when I see it. Just freaking fantastic. - Lucky 6.9 06:29, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Votează contra ştergerii articolului Heaven of Transnistria

Împreună cu EvilAlex (un tip din Tighina - Transnistria) am creat un articol despre propaganda separatistă a Tiraspolului Heaven of Transnistria. I s-a cerut ştergerea. Te rog ajută-ne să păstrăm articolul, votînd contra ştergerii[2]. Destul s-a şters din articolul principal Transnistria, Wikipedia e plină de propagandă a Tiraspolului, să avem măcar un articol care explică această propagandă--MariusM 18:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] rv of "Uprising" in NDH article

Maybe, maybe not. You should have discussed such a drastic change on the talk page before making it. Otherwise, it's hard to distinguish such edits from vandalism. Mihovil 14:31, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, well, whoever did make the changes should have discussed them. Sorry for the confusion. Mihovil 23:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dream team

Hey, there's no Bosnian & Macedonian!! --Edmundkh 16:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

But I personally feel that it would be great if all ex-Yugoslavia countries have their representatives in the dream team. If Bosnians and Macedonians are lousy in football, then they may have ONE player in the team, maybe just substitutes. ;-) --Edmundkh 10:49, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IPA

You fully understand it? Could You make one for Stefan Nemanja please? --PaxEquilibrium 10:15, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted {{FRYf}}

Hi! Thanks for trying to improve football related articles and templates. I've deleted the {{FRYf}} template you created though, as it was an identical copy of a template we already had, {{YUGfscg}}. We try to keep true to the FIFA trigrammes, and FRY has never been used as such a code for Yugoslavia, which always used YUG. Just wanted to tell you this so you wouldn't be confused. (If there is something you wish to add, you can do it here, I'll watch the page.) – Elisson • T • C • 20:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

(copied from User talk:Johan Elisson)
Hi Johan, I did not see the Yugoslavia template. I created FRYf because in the Euro appearances for the 'new' yugoslavia the old flag was used, and such was not appropriate. --Hurricane Angel 02:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
(end copy)
No problem caused. :) If you have not yet seen it, this page lists all such templates there is, which is good when you need to check if a template exists or not. – Elisson • T • C • 13:10, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Former soccer league - don't worry

Already done. That info IS inserted in the articles translated on hr.wiki ("translated from en.wiki" or "the tables, links and champions's roster are from en.wiki").
You can see the line <!-- privedeno sa en.wiki --> in the article "code", or something similar can be found in the comment of the change. Don't worry, your work is appreciated there.
It'd be so nice if that rule would be applied in sr.wiki. I've translated many articles from en.wiki on hr.wiki. Some users from sr.wiki have blatantly copied many of my translated texts. Well, wiki does function that way... copying and translating the texts from other wikipedias, which is OK. But: those texts were copied without any criterium, without even trying to translate those texts in Serb language. Now, as a consequence, sr.wiki is full of Croat language; since when Serbs use e.g. "prvenstvo" instead of "šampionat", "zaleđe" instead of "ofsajd", "naslov prvaka" instead of "titula šampiona", "bronca" instead of "bronza", "Europa" instead of "Evropa", "poluzavršnica" instead of "polufinale"... etc., not to mention syntax, infinitive forms and monthnames in Croatian language? And, that "citing rule" isn't applied there. How many of those have mentioned "transferred/translated from hr.wiki"? Very, very few have did that (thanks to all who did that). Kubura 13:10, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

BTW, there's a need to change of some championships' seasons. All of them weren't played by the system autumn/spring, as I remember, at the beginning they were played in the same year. Kubura 13:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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