Talk:Hurricane Isabel

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Hurricane Isabel is the main article of the "Hurricane Isabel" series, a current featured topic candidate. A featured topic should exemplify Wikipedia's very best work, and is therefore expected to meet several criteria. Please feel free to leave comments.

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Article Milestones Date Process Result February 15, 2007 Good article nominee Listed February 22, 2007 Featured article candidate Promoted March 1, 2007 Featured topic candidate Promoted Current Status: Featured article

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Contents 1 Katrina 2 Todo 3 Effects by region 3.1 Subpages: a template to move to individual regions in Impact pages 4 Collaboration of the week? 5 Where is ref #47 6 GAC

[edit] Katrina

Know lets not keep talking about what happend 3 years ago. lets deal with what happend about3months ago. Remember what happend,Hurricane KATRINA.It brought devistation to alot of people lives.WHat if happend to us? Think about it. By:Shaniece

This was a notable storm though and definitely deserved an article (it reached Category 5 and affected an enormous area with over 65 million people from South Carolina northward, matched only by Floyd in recent memory). If it had developed in the 2005 season, it would be a very long article in itself. CrazyC83 04:52, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Maybe "Shaniece" needs to learn proper english, and learn how to communicate in a sensical way. Just a typical uneducated black person from the south. Anyway, I think this article could use some expanding as to the formation and duration of Isabel, it really doesnt say anything about the storms chronology. Weatherman90 00:58, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I would also like to point her to the beast of an article called Hurricane Katrina. -- §HurricaneERIC§^Damagesarchive 23:30, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Shaniece, to prevent future problems please sign your comments by typing four tildes. (~~~~) juan andrés 22:08, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Todo

Content here is stellar but overall disorganization is the main problem. There is no real storm history; the impact section runs on and on without structure. And isn't forecasting a part of preparation? I suggest using the same structure as in Hurricane Ivan: Storm history, Preparations, Impact. Also, references are needed. Jdorje 23:57, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Would anyone be opposed if I remove that huge, ugly death table and replace with a one by state? Hurricanehink (talk) 23:13, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Effects by region

In case anyone is interested, I am planning on creating articles for Isabel's impact by each state. Having it all in here would make the article unnecessarily long. I already started effects in New Jersey in my sandbox, which means there's enough info for North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and possibly New York or West Virginia. I also put a todo list on the top for what would be needed to get this article to a potential FA class. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't realize Isabel had that much info on itself. Well, I see if I can help in my spare time! íslenskur fellibylur #12 _(samtal) 12:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Yea, it was a lesser version of Katrina in terms of the wide area of impact and the amount of information. I finished the Effects of Hurricane Isabel in New Jersey, BTW. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subpages: a template to move to individual regions in Impact pages

This is an experimental template I made up. The centerpoint is New Jersey in this example (for the long article created), but it can be shifted. The storm is also completely flexible and the category is based on the peak in that region listed.

Path of Hurricane Isabel
Northwest: Pennsylvania	North: New York	Northeast: New York
West: Pennsylvania	New Jersey	East: Atlantic Ocean
Southwest: Delaware	South: Atlantic Ocean	Southeast: Atlantic Ocean

CrazyC83 06:14, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Hurricane Isabel
North Carolina | Virginia | West Virginia | Maryland and Washington, D.C. | Delaware | Pennsylvania | New Jersey | New York and New England | Canada

I'm not sure this is the best way to organize the Isabel articles (someone else made it). Both of these templates have their own problems. Neither could address an article such as Meteorological History of Hurricane Isabel or other non-storm effects articles. The ideal template should list all territories, IMO. Hurricanehink (talk) 16:23, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Collaboration of the week?

Should we put this up for Collaboration of the Week? I'm thinking we should bypass GA on this one and aim straight for FA. CrazyC83 16:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not so sure. I think it would be better as tropical cyclone editors working together. CotW, IMO, should be for long articles that need major reorganization. Isabel mainly just needs more info. The same thing happenend with Katrina. It helped re-organize it, but it wasn't ready for FA because it needed more prose. A CotW for a tropical cyclone article might be better for Rita or Wilma, which have a lot of info but not a lot of sources or organization. Hurricanehink (talk) 17:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Good points; the lack of any locally extreme destruction make this a rather difficult to organize storm (as opposed to Rita and especially Wilma), and that is also the reason this is Mid-importance rather than High-importance. CrazyC83 17:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. Damage from Isabel was fairly moderate throughout its path, whereas other storms have peak areas of damage. Hurricanehink (talk) 19:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where is ref #47

And what was it supposed to be?--Rmky87 16:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Whoops, it's supposed to be for the HPC rainfall data. I thought it was sourced already in the article. I added it, though. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that.--Rmky87 23:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GAC

I have graded this article on the following criteria:

1. Well-written: Pass
2. Factually accurate: Pass
3. Broad: Pass
4. Neutrally written: Pass
5. Stable: Pass
6. Well-referenced: Pass
7. Images: Pass

Congratulations, it passes! You guys as WP:TROPIC are crazy good at this, you know? Not sure what to say, other than to push this forward for FA. --PresN 16:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)