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[edit] Why Suni

rather she deer ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.13.244.169 (talk) 02:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC).

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[edit] Posibly false intent

  • the Wikipedia entry is now :
Recent genetic research[1] shows that many of the great confederations of steppe warriors were not entirely of the same ra:ce, but rather tended to be ethnic mixtures of Eurasian clans. In addition, many clans may have claimed to be Huns simply based on the prestige and fame of the name, or it was attributed to them by outsiders describing their common characteristics, believed place of origin, or reputation.[1]"All we can say safely", says Walter Pohl,"is that the name Huns, in late antiquity, described prestigious ruling groups of steppe warriors".[1]
  • as reference to 1 is given:
  1. ^ a b c d Walter Pohl (1999), "Huns" in Late Antiquity, editor Peter Brown, p.501-502 ..
    1. further references to F.H Bauml and M. Birnbaum, eds., Atilla: The Man and His Image (1993).
    2. Peter Heather, "The Huns and the End of the Roman Empire in Western Europe," English Historical Review 90 (1995):4-41.
    3. Peter Heather, The Fall of the Roman Empire (2005).
    4. Otto Maenchen-Helfen, The World of the Huns (1973). E. de la Vaissière, Huns et Xiongnu "Central Asiatic Journal" 2005-1 pp. 3-26

The question I put: who is referenced as genetic research revelator?

  • 1 Otto Maenchen-Helfen 1973 <? he is the most enigmatic writer.
  • 2 F.H Bauml and M. Birnbaum 1993,
  • 3 Peter Heather 1993,
  • 4 Peter Heather 1995,
  • 5 Walter Pohl, 1999
    • Or ?

Is it common in 'intuge' research to write so transparently refernces ? To group V position as one ?

Nasz 18:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I hope this is just an edition error and should be corrected or reverted.

Walter Pohl is the reference. -- Stbalbach 15:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Biggest Scandal of Wikipedia

The Huns who dress, speak, look a like of 100% old Turks, are shown like the Slavs or Germans in the Huns page of wiki... congratulations to editors and the wiki family for this stupidness u suckz —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.233.18.59 (talk) 09:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

Where does it say the Huns are Slavs or Germans? -- Stbalbach 18:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Religion or religions?

Does anyone know what religion or religions they practiced? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Twslandlord (talkcontribs) 16:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)Twslandlord 16:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

They practiced shamanism, like most steppe nomads ie: Turkic nomads.

"Hun" is general term applied to many different peoples who had different languages and different religions. Sometimes, Central Asian invaders simply called themselvs "Huns" to intimidate their enemies. The European Huns (under Attila) were not related to the "White Huns", and these "White & Red Huns" were not related to the Yiiongnu, probably the "original Huns".
The classical "Siberian Huns" were most likely akin to other Altaic nomads and practiced all kinds of Shamanist cults, just like later Turks and Mongols. Others that had contacts to the population of the Himalayas probably also practiced Buddhism. Others, such as the Xionites and hephthalites - called "Huns", "White Huns" or "Red Huns" in some sources - were most likely of Iranian origin, and there are traces of Zoroastrism, Manichaeism, and Hinduism. Tājik 14:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HUNS=TURKS, TURKS=HUNS

Huns were the original Asian Turkic nomads!!! i didnt see their ethinicy in the page, where are the editors, are they sleeping? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.101.253.75 (talk) 19:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

Everything about Huns in wikipedia is completely FALSE.Just check the maps.Huns have never been in area near the Baltic sea.Since the ice age, the eastern part of it is populated by Baltic tribes.Who wrote all this nonsense ?

[edit] Real and true map with finno-ugric, baltic and other tribes.

http://www.vaidilute.com/books/gimbutas/figure-36.jpg

As you see, Huns have populated at least 4 times smaller regions, far to east, never in Europe.