Talk:Humber River (Ontario)

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This is from the Humber River disamb page, and should probably be worked in here:

"The Humber River in Toronto flows south 93 km from its origin in Orangeville to Lake Ontario. Its eastern branch originates in Aurora, Ontario and meets the river just south of Highway 7. The western branch flows from the Claireville Conservation Area in Brampton west into Toronto through Rexdale roughly parallel to Finch Ave., and then Albion Rd., before meeting the main branch at Summerlea Park near Weston and Sheppard."

Waterguy 20:03, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rename page

I believe this article would be better named Humber River (Ontario), which is currently a redirect to this page. The river has origins well outside of Toronto, and some parts are even external to the GTA, so it doesn't make sense to have a title with such a narrow focus. Mindmatrix 19:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it makes sense to rename it. --NormanEinstein 20:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Back on February I tried to change the category from Category:Rivers of Toronto to Category:Rivers of Ontario but User:Trovatore reverted me and that's where it stood. Most of the Toronto rivers - the Don, the Rouge, even Mimico and Etobicoke Creeks begin outside Toronto, yet they are all labelled as such. Where does the distinction begin, or end? --Atrian 20:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't really remember what I was thinking back then. I guess I don't have any real objection to the rename, though the river seems pretty strongly associated with Toronto to me (and Ontario's such a big place...). --Trovatore 20:49, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I remember now. My objection wasn't really to adding the article to "Rivers of Ontario" so much as to removing it from "Rivers of Toronto" (because it clearly is a river of Toronto, even if it's a river of other places as well). The general rule is that if B is a subcat of A, then an article should not be in both cat B and cat A. I've long thought, though, that there should be an exception for the case where part of the article would put it in cat B, and a different part of the article would put it in cat A but not in any subcat of cat A. Here we're talking about different parts of the river rather than different parts of the article, but I think the same principle should apply, and the article should be in both categories. --Trovatore 21:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)