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US General Michael W. Hagee doing the hula.
Heh :) - Hephaestos|§ 00:38, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
Hehe. That's funny. Anyhoo.... in cases where there is more than one subject that shares a name, it is Wikipedia policy to give the more recognizable subject the main namespace. That is the case with "Hula." Therefore, this article should be moved to the main namespace "Hula" with a prominent link to the disambiguation page. --Gerald Farinas 01:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] New interest in hula article
There seems to be renewed interest in this article, which is good. However, some editors have made some inaccurate statements, which I have removed.
Yeah, I know, this sounds arrogant -- but I've actually done a fair bit of research on the history of hula, for a historical novel I was writing. Frex, I can't let the statement that the hula was born on Molokai'i stand! There's an equally long tradition sourcing it to Kaua'i.
I'm not at all good on contemporary hula, which is where people who are actually studying hula now could really improve things.
I just did a major revision of the article. I didn't finish it -- it still needs lots of work -- but I set up some categories that can be filled in later. We also need references. I have a fair number of hula books; I just need to sit down with a stack of them and transfer the bibliographic info to the end of the article.
It would also be nice to have more hula halaus listed, and perhaps a list of notable hula artists and teachers -- all of whom deserve their own articles.
More pictures! I actually have a bunch of hula pictures, copies of pictures from the Bishop Museum library, but they don't want them used without payment. I don't think this would stand up to a copyright challenge, but ... public domain pictures from other sources needed. Zora 18:53, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Zora, nice structure.
In my latest addition, I re-emphasized the importance of mele to hula. In fact, I'm not sure it's emphatic enough. The entire theme of the 2005 World Hula Conference was the importance of the mele. In the old times, hula and chant were the only means of retaining history. That led to a tradition of the importance of words, and was why it was so severe to make a mistake - a mistake meant altering the past because it altered the retelling of the past.
I'll work on getting some pictures. It's easier to illustrate costumes and implements than it is to describe them. Mike 18:19, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- On second thought, I removed a remark I made, that was just a rehash of something already in the article. It sounded snippy. Instead I should be thanking you for your words of praise. It's nice to work with an editor who is willing to cooperate. Zora 20:47, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Added material to hula kahiko
An anon decided to delete the blank sections. I just spend half an hour restoring them and filling them with material. Please check and wikify as necessary. Zora 21:46, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] pre-western hula
I recently discussed the hula with a friend who lived in Hawaii for a time. He said that it used to be forbidden for women to do the hula. If this is correct, shouldn't it be included in the article?
- We have pictures drawn by explorers showing women doing the hula. No indication that women were forbidden. In fact, hula was said to have been invented by a goddess, either Laka or Hi'iaka. Zora 00:44, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Or your friend could be referring to the way Protestant missionaries forbid all Hawaiians (women included) from performing the hula. RyGuy17 22:07, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
