Talk:Hugo Kelly

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This article was nominated for deletion on 29 December, 2005. The result of the discussion was keep.

I think this page is a valuable insight into the mind of that sleeping giant of Australia's media scene, Master Hugo Kelly.--Jack Upland 02:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Possible improvements 2 Re: suggested changes 3 We're talked about folks 4 Crikey 5 More tags...

[edit] Possible improvements

In line with the aim of reducing the chattiness of the existing article, I propose the following alterations:

• "boozy" to be replaced by "incessantly inebriated"
• "keen team of young talent" to become "assortment of youths with apparent potential"
• "Rubbing shoulders" to become "mingling convivally"
• "bubbly" to become "sparking wine".

I hope these go some way to introducing the necessary encyclopedic tone.

Incidentally, I don't agree that this article is an autobiographical act of vanity: in fact, the achievements listed are quite paltry. Where are the early intimations of genius? The details of prominent Australian expatriates whom Kelly inspired to take up self-imposed exile? Etc, etc.--Jack Upland 03:22, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: suggested changes

Surely given that it was in France, we can refer to the sparkling wine as champagne?

Do we have a citation to say that it was in fact champagne that wasn't spilt?--Jack Upland 04:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

You know I can get one if you really think it necessary! SunKingISunKingI

Maybe one of the people who asked for more citations should confirm that.--Jack Upland 06:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps so - it's clearly an important distinction, and we should make sure we get these details correct. This is an encyclopaedia after all, not a self-indulgent autobiographical vanity page! SunKingI 23:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Exactly. We don't want the schoolkids getting the wrong info.--Jack Upland 01:56, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, quite - we would never mislead the school kiddies. And I can't believe someone added the following to the hobbies section "Another lowlight of an unremarkable career was this attempt to inflate it by creating his own Wilkipedia entry, above." - although it was luckily immediately removed. I am not Hugo. Hugo is not me. Why would anyone think I am Hugo?? I'm half a foot shorter than him, and much prettier. Well, a little prettier. SunKingI 04:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's the great thing about Wikipedia: any silliness is promptly dealt with.--Jack Upland 19:41, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, most silliness is promptly dealt with! I must say we're having some fun with this - we thought we might start work on Christian's entry tomorrow. SunKingI 00:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'll keep an eye out for any nepotism... By the way, it's a good thing you cleared up the fact that you are much/a little prettier than Hugo now that the photo of Hugo's in the article!--Jack Upland 07:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

As Christian is also neither our sister-in-law nor our nephew, it should be pretty safe. And I (writing in the first person rather than our combined SunKing persona just for a second) am in the photo as well, so you can judge for yourself. We didn't get around to starting on Christian though. 134.159.131.34 23:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

That is remarkably good news about Christian and I must concur with your earlier expressed sentiments vis-a-vis the relative appearance of the different personae.--Jack Upland 09:08, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Mr Upland. I have now created my own wiki persona, mainly as I can't remember the password the Sun King and I picked... ah well. HighPriestess of the PDRGI 08:33, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] We're talked about folks

"That said, there's plenty of inaccurate spin in his account of Crikey's history today. Firstly, to suggest he "co-founded" Crikey is laughable, although it's a myth repeated in the expansive multi-volume Wikipedia entry he wrote about himself."

What's the go here? - Ta bu shi da yu 14:48, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, this is what caused me to add the autobiography templates above and corresponding entry in Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles. Mark Hurd 16:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me, but I am NOT Hugo Kelly - most of the original article was written by me, from an interview I did with Hugo, which is on my blog - http://bekk.blogspot.com/2005_12_01_bekk_archive.html - Mayne's allegation that Hugo wrote his own entry is entirely false, and possibly defamatory. Both the autobiographical templates above were ME - Bek - and NOT Hugo. HighPriestess of the PDRGI 04:00, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've removed the IP address template too. (Ta bu shi da yu removed the other one.) For the moment, I've left the other autobiography stuff for others to review.

Note you need to verify you've assigned copyright on your blog entry. Mark Hurd 12:35, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, your highness, it was your choice of the nom de guerre "The Sun King" that made all of us think of Hugo Kelly. Naturally.--Jack Upland 09:14, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Rather than, say Louis XIV of France? Understandble confusion, Hugo is also quite radiant.HighPriestess of the PDRGI 23:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

And like the Bourbons, he says, "Apres moi, le deluge".--Jack Upland 04:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crikey

I know it may still be hard to be NPOV, but Kelly's story should include something about Crikey, if not any detail about his termination. Mark Hurd 13:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

How can you not mention Crikey's termination?--Jack Upland 09:15, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More tags...

Why has this been tagged for notability again? There was already a whole discussion when the article first went up and everyone decided he was notable! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HighPriestess of the PDRGI (talk • contribs) 00:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC).