Talk:Huang Biren
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Hello... I have a concern with this article, and how it is repeatedly re-edited in a manner unsuited to an encyclopedia entry. Past examples of this have included repeated deletion of the actor's birthdate, inclusion of contact information for her management company, and glowing praise for her acting abilities. Here are some examples:
"With more than 40 dramas under her belt, supportive friends and fans and numerous achievements, her career will definitely soar to greater heights." [1]
"A reporter said that she is always dressed apporiately with her age, unlike Fann Wong, who is 35 years old but dresses like a 25 year old woman." [2]
Now, just to be clear, I should state that I really have no personal stake in this. I'm not from Singapore, I don't know Huang Biren, and I've never seen any of her work - nor am I ever likely to. This article was on the "Recent changes" list one evening while I was doing a counter-vandalism sweep. The page caught my eye because it had been edited by an IP address, rather than a logged-in user. A further look at the edit history reveals that a fair number of the edits (and repeated replacement of self-promotional material) come from IPs and not users.
I don't feel qualified to judge if Huang Biren deserves an article or not. However, having followed this article for a few weeks, I think that it - and a series of related articles under the categories Category:MediaCorp TV and Category:MediaCorp TV Artists - could use a good, solid re-edit and re-examination. Thanks for helping out - I've followed this for long enough and I'd like to take it off my watch list (rather than get into an endless series of re-edit and revert...) --Ckatz 05:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removal of the birth year
An anonymous editor is continually removing the birth year form the infobox, despite repeated requests and warnings about said action. I have recently received a note from one of the anon IPs saying:
"I was the one who set up this page, and Huang Biren actually does not want her age to be known as she has already said in public. So please take away the year that she was born in. Thank you." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.6.78.218 (talk • contribs).
Please be advised that this appears to be an ongoing campaign; it has occurred many times in the past few months, and looks as if it will continue, unfortunately. --Ckatzchatspy 08:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well, so it goes for allowing intransigent anonymous edits on wiki. —Sengkang 08:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
For reference, the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons article has more information. In particular, please keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a press agency. --Alan Au 18:30, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Awards & nominations section
Please do not delete the sections as stated above. I really hope to add it back. Why do you all keep deleting it??
Please reply because I hope to add it back as soon as possible. My reasons for doing this is becuase, the page would be spoiled if you all keep deleting the awards section away. One small paragraph does not prove much. Not many people would see that small little paragraph about her awards.
A table to write about the awards she had received would be better.
Thanks. fatty 04:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- I can see why you want it back in, and I don't mind if you really want the table in. But honestly, adding in every nomination on a long table doesn't make the article look right. Basically, the limit on lists per article space should be about half at most (I don't know what/if the policy is), and Huang Biren was at about 80%, which gives the illusion of a long, well-written article, when in fact it's a bunch of lists. If you really want the tables in, make a subarticle titled Huang Biren awards or something. Still, I'm not a table fan where a table is not necessary, though I'm not sure if there's an actual rule on that.--Wizardman 04:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Keep in mind, too, that this is an encyclopedia - not a personal PR site for the actor. Additionally, please stop adding the "semiprotected" tag. By itself, it does not invoke protection - it only displays the banner. (This is the seventh time the tag has been improperly applied, at least three of those incidents originating with you, so you should be well aware of the error by now.) For the page to actually be protected, you will need the assistance of an administrator, and you will need to go through the proper procedure at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. However, it is unlikely that the request will be granted due to the low volume of edits on this page, and the nature of the edits (for example, continuous attempts to remove Biren's age.) Hope this helps. --Ckatzchatspy 04:41, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
So I'm gonna add the table back, OK?? 121.7.38.254 06:24, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I'll give in on keeping the awards table up, so bascially let's just keep the article as is as of my post.--Wizardman 06:29, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
