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[edit] Template parameters

{{ HP character 
 | image      = 
 | bgcolor    = 
 | fgcolor    = 
 | name       = 
 | gender     = 
 | hair       = 
 | eyes       = 
 | residence  = 
 | house      = 
 | school     = 
 | blood      = 
 | species    = 
 | owner      = 
 | powers     = 
 | allegiance = 
 | portrayer  = 
 | voice      = 
 | appearance = 
}}

The only required parameter is the name. Any others which are unknown or inapplicable should be left blank.

  • name: The name of a character.
  • image: Image link format:
    [[Image:Image-Name|Widthpx|Alternate-Text]] <br/> Caption.
    The Width should be no more than 300px.
    The Alternate Text should identify the person(s) in the image, and—very briefly—anything noteworthy about the scene.
    The Caption is optional.
  • gender: The gender of a character.
  • hair: The hair colour of a character.
  • eyes: The eye colour of a character.
  • residence: The name of the established home of an adult character.
  • house: The Hogwarts house a character is a member of.
  • school: The name of the school a character attends or attended. If a Hogwarts house is specified, it's not necessary to also specify the school.
  • blood: The blood purity of human and part-human characters.
  • species: The species of non-human characters.
  • owner: The owner of a pet animal.
  • powers: Any special power of an animal.
  • allegiance: The organizations or leaders with which a character is aligned. No more than two, and organizations precede individuals.
  • portrayer: The actor who portrays a character on-screen in the film series.
  • voice: The actor who voices a CGI character in the film series.
  • appearance: The book in which the character first appears. Format with a line break after "Harry Potter and"; e.g. ''[[Harry Potter and the Philospher's Stone|Harry Potter and <br/> the Philospher's Stone]]''.

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I created a duplicate template (Template:HP Characters) to bypass the five-limit on template invocations on one page. ugen64 23:43, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

It is no longer needed and is now up for deletion. 66.190.218.206 06:13, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Status?

I think a "Status" field -- "Living," "Deceased," "Unknown" -- would be useful.

I agree, but it might cause problems with having to move the 'spoiler' tag to the top of the page on pages like Dumbledore. In most cases if they dont have a date of death in the first line of the article, they are alive. --drak2

Hi, I don't mind the status field, provided all the character boxes are updated with a status prior to the field being added. Otherwise, all the characters look like there is some unfinished work. To keep the look of the wikiproject in a reasonnable shape, things have to be done in order. I have removed the status for now because all the characters were showing a ststus of: "{{{status}}}". Also all the spoiler warnings need to be at the right place when the status is added. Lag 20:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Edits

The relatives height and weight of characters mentioned in the books aren't exact enough for a table. You could only use terms like "small" or "tall" and these are all relative.

Changing "affliation" to "loyalty" would mean reformatting all the tables. It was "affliation" originally but some people (i.e. Aris Katsaris) found it confusing.

[edit] Parentage, Allegiance

I opted to change the field 'Blood Purity' to 'Parentage' since the latter is a word used by Rowling herself in reference to such distinctions as pure-blood, half-blood and Muggle-born.

From http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2001/1201-bbc-hpandme.htm ("Harry Potter and Me" BBC Special):

JKR: ... this is the name of everyone in Harry's year [holds up piece of paper] and all these little symbols mean what house they're in, how magical they are, what their parentage is, because I needed this later for the Death Eaters and so on, and the various allegiances that will be set up within the school.

While I'm at it, notice that in the same interview, Rowling used "allegiance" in reference to the Death Eaters. Hence, I prefer to substitue 'Allegiance' for 'Loyalty' in the template.

--Mercury McKinnon 19 May 2005

I think both Allegiance and Loyalty work Allegiance because that the word JK Rowling Uses but Loyalty because thats what the Characters use especialy Harry. Shimonnyman 18:14, 5 September 2005

[edit] Affiliation/Loyalty & "Hogwarts" House

I strongly oppose the use of the term Affiliation rather than Loyalty. I agree Allegiance might be a good idea. I have changed it back and see no reason to use 'affiliation' unless anyone has anything to say on the subject. If anyone does want to use affiliation I will happily discuss it here.

The same goes for using 'Hogwarts' in the House section of the table. It causes the text in the cell to go onto a second line, and is unnecessary. I think we can for the moment assume that all houses quoted in the tables are Hogwarts houses, as foreign students (from other schools) can use the foreign HP character template.

--Drak2 22:17, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sex/Gender

Should not "sex" be used instead of "gender" as it is the more grammatically correct term when referring to organisms? --Zippanova 19:22, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Can you explain the difference?

I know you didnt ask me but i was currious and looked it up in a dictionary: sex is biological and gender is social or cultural. According to this rule, one would say The effectiveness of the medication appears to depend on the sex (not gender) of the patient, but In peasant societies, gender (not sex) roles are likely to be more clearly defined. -- Shimonnyman 10:12, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] year of birth

Should there be a part of the template added that covers years of birth or aproxamate of unknown? I think that could be good or maybe like a part that covers life span birth to death or maybe birth and death part and for non dead put N/A or unknown or alive Shimonnyman 11:20, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I think so. I think there should be "Last Appearance" "Born" and "Died" added to the template. The reason I think there should be Last Appaearance as wesll as Died is cause most of them don't correspond. - RedHotHeat 17:51, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] width

The template is too wide for my tastes, much wider than any other sidebar-type template that I'm familiar with. I changed it and was asked to discuss first when it was reverted. Sorry for not doing that first. Here I am to discuss! Tedernst 16:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree. 25 ems! It only leaves room for a narrow column of text beside it. I suggest cutting it to 20 ems. Other than the book titles, what would be affected? And they can be shortened, since they all begin "Harry Potter and ...".
—wwoods 04:39, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Again, why is this template so wide? There's no reason that I can see. —wwoods 06:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Parentage

I am going to remove the link on parentage because all that comes out from that is [[Blood Purity (Harry Potter)|Pure-blood]]

[edit] Changed Loyalty to Allegiance

I changed the text from Loyalty to Allegiance per this discussion, and I also made it so you can call the template using either "loyalty=x" or "allegiance=x". --Deathphoenix ʕ 03:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Italics for appearance

Someone added italic markings for the appearance section, so that when one inserts the infobox one need not use the quotation marks. However, that makes all the current infoboxes that have used the italics markings appear with one ' and a bold display. I think the edit should be reverted, unless somebody would like to go and change everything that's been made bold. --Fbv65edel (discuss | contribs) 22:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I got rid of it. Given two different routes, I take the easiest route. ;-) --Deathphoenix ʕ 12:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree, either revert or change every page where the template is used. Lgriot 12:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unknown characteristics

I've changed the template to not display characteristics which are "Unknown" or inapplicable. I think I've got the syntax right. I added "School", so the the Foreign characters can use the same template. —wwoods 19:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template revision

I've added all the characteristics from the various HP character templates, with descriptions at the top of this talk page. —wwoods 22:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Loyalty, allegiance, affiliation

I think "affiliation" is the best term for this part of the template. For example, we do not know if Snape is loyal/pays allegiance to the Order or Death Eaters/Voldemort. However, we do know he has been affiliated with both groups. This precision in language is the difference between speculation and fact, in my opinion. It also resolves the problem that someone could be a part of two groups that may appear as being philosophical polar opposites. 67.165.72.229 00:33, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Powers

I see that the Powers field is reserved for animals. How about also using it for stuff like Metamorphmagus, parselmouth, etc, as those are not learned abilities but stuff they are born with...

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