Template talk:Howto

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This was previously a re-direct page to another template talk page, but obviously there is not going to be any merge of these two templates, so I am removing the redirect and making each of the templates have their own talk pages.

Howto page will not have references to transwiki:ing, unless the (minor) content dispute can be solved. Message box that implicitly suggest transwiki:ing should be used for that purpose.

Santtus 12:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know who died and made you god on this point, but it has been a rather routine process of moving Wikipedia articles to Wikibooks. I wasn't the one who brought up that this should be merged with Template:Move to Wikibooks, but instead simply wanted to make sure that if this content was moved that the editors who were going to try and clean up Wikipedia were aware of the issues in doing such a move.

Clearly there is a need for a How-to cleanup template. If the content does need to be moved to Wikibooks, then perhaps the Move to Wikibooks template should be used instead. Certainly a few very, very stubby paragraphs that discuss some "how to do something" should not be transwikied, especially if those stubs are in theory to become a full book on Wikibooks, or even a fully documented textbook. Unless you are willing to at least put some effort into writing such a book, don't move it to Wikibooks. Just delete the content that violates Wikipedia policies.

I'm sorry that I ruined your precious template, but I do hope that you have learned a little about inter-project issues and can appreciate my point of view at least. --Robert Horning 12:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Not attempting to use any godly powers whatsoever, but I do personally feel strongly about substituting the meaning of a message after the message have been communicated with different intent. In this case, I refer to the template tag as the message, and the content of the message box as the meaning. I have also contemplated the issues with Wikibooks more carefully now, thanks to you. I do understand that I can't write such message boxes that would suggest greater possibilities elsewhere (i.e. in Wikibooks) than actually possible; that would be an attempt to just move the problems elsewhere. So, have my thanks on informing me about this issue. 193.166.173.23 13:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Santtus 13:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I would like to point out that most howtos transwikied to Wikibooks can be added to existing books. Only a few have been deleted because they couldn't be expanded into books due to the nature of their subject. I recommend that Wikipedia transwikies howtos rather than simply removing them from an article. At the very least, can a short "consider tranwikiing this section to Wikibooks" message be added to this template? --Hagindaz 00:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure! The reader can be hinted about the possibility in some unobtrusive way, and directed to another place where they can read more. Santtus 07:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)