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If anyone who reads this is an expert, or even amateur enthusiast of Egyptian mythology, please feel free to add information, and most especially to clarify the differences between the multiple kinds of Horuses. My source doesn't do a very good job of explaining in what way they are the same idea and my likening them to the Christian Trinity is essentially an educated guess. All I have is a stub under "Horus" and dozens of other entries that claim to be "another name" for Horus with widely varying descriptions. If you know more than me, be bold in updating this page. User:Tokerboy
[edit] God of life?
I always thought that Horus was a god of life. Is this true or not?
I have tried to do my best. ~~~~
[edit] Wicca
I have heard there is a connection between Horus and Wiccan beliefs. Is this true or a fabrication? If so, surely this should be documented here? AKismet 20:21, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Eye of Horus
My sources are potentially quite unreliable, but I have for years been under the impression that it was Horus' left eye that represented the moon, and his right eye was the sun. Is this incorrect?
- You're quite right about the eyes, Sun and Moon; this is a well-known Ancient Egyptian myth. Actually, this myth or one quite close to it appears in several mythologies.
- Urhixidur 18:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
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- I was just confused, because the article said Horus' right eye was the moon. I imagine it would tend to vary from story to story, but I guess it's kind of bugging me a little...
- Its the eye which became the Eye of Horus that was the sun, youll have to check that article - the drawing of it is very stylistic so its easy to see whether its the left or right eye.
- As for the wiccan connection, if it does exist then it will most likely be down to the modern founder of wiccan belief - Gerald Gardner or Aleister Crowley --Victim of signature fascism 20:09, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- I was just confused, because the article said Horus' right eye was the moon. I imagine it would tend to vary from story to story, but I guess it's kind of bugging me a little...
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- It would be nice if the authors of this article cited the sources from which the content was drawn. --Sapphire Wyvern 10:44, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Virgin birth is not immaculate
see : Immaculate Conception - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
" This article refers to the dogma of the immaculate conception of Mary, Mother of Jesus. For the doctrine of the virginal conception of Jesus Christ, see Incarnation (Christianity) and Virgin Birth (Christian doctrine). The Immaculate Conception is a Roman Catholic dogma that asserts that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was preserved by God from the stain of original sin at the time of her own conception. Specifically, the dogma says she was not afflicted by the lack of sanctifying grace that afflicts mankind, but was instead filled with grace by God, and furthermore lived a life completely free from sin. It is commonly confused with the doctrine of the incarnation and virgin birth, though the two deal with separate subjects." --193.56.241.75 08:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Source validity
My apologies if I mess anything up - I'm still learning how to use this. I question the validity of the "Naked Truth" video in that particular section of this article. Unless I'm mistaken, the video implies that early humans were contemporaries with dinosaurs and puts forth a suspicious etymology of the word "amen," which contradicts Wikipedia's amen article. I will look for better sources, but perhaps the author of that edit can defend the video in question. I prefer not to edit the article myself until I get more comfortable using Wikipedia and can provide replacement sources. Mld 16:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)mld
[edit] Can anyone clarify further any references....
Hi,
[edit] Possible opinion that should be removed?
'Serious scholars do not question the historicity of Jesus Christ'? That sounds like an opinion to me... 216.86.104.31 01:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- The "citation neeeded" tag is on there, and that whole section has problems. We'll sort it out eventually. --King Bee 12:10, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
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- In the end, there is historical evidence that a Jew named Jesus of Nazereth actually lived and existed [...]
- Is this a joke ? Who wrote this piece of POV ? Plus, it has nothing to do here. This section is only comparing the similitudes between Horus and Jesus. Its not about the historicity of Jesus. If nobody objects, I will delete it later. -- Squallgreg 04:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I think the Jesus and Horus section needs to be rewritten to make Horus the subject, and remove any dubious claims about other gods. I will make a start --Herne nz 08:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
It is reveiling that this section contains the only citations, yet is marked as unreliable. Every christian scholar should be able to set their faith aside for intellectual debate, without feeling that faith is threatened.
[edit] Additions to Origin and family relations
http://touregypt.net/godsofegypt/horus.htm
I have always been under the impression that Ra was the original father of Horus and then it was changed to Osiris, not the other way around. Also has anyone heard of the origin of the idea of horus, "The worship of Horus was brought from the outside by neighboring tribes who invaded and then settled into Egypt. He was their god of war, but was quickly absorbed into the state religion, first as a son of Ra, then changing to become the son of Osiris." This is how i have always understood it; however I only have the above source to validate it. Let me know if you think it should be added or if it has merit.
[edit] Why?
- I was wondering... Why is Horus so important to the egyptians and their religion?--67.81.70.107 02:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Answer as soon as posible!! (^_^)
This are only my suggestions, but this can be true: there is Slovian God Chorus (spelled Horus) [also named: Chors, Choros, Chrs], he is God of Moon. Maybe this is the same god and it would answer your question: the Moon is very important in every culture. Of course I don't have any proof that it have any connections, but it is quite interesting. AC4 11:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Where is this information coming from?
There aren't any reference to ancient texts at all. Where does our information about Horus come from.
One text I can think of is the Egyptian Book of the Dead Ty27 01:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] there is no god horus!!!!
Horus in the modern meaning is a completely fabricated story trying to remove Ra ( Rea, Rah) from egyptian legend peice by peice. Horus is someones attemp to take the name Ore-az and change it into there own name for personal gain. Your talking about egypt for christs sake people everthing male is ra the sun god no one else. Ore-az means O=light of the moon of Re as in a spelling of ra put
the two together you get "light of the moon of ra"(while ra is the sun god the moon is the wife or
in some belifes the mother of the immaculatly concived son god ra or as spelled in this case Re. Az is light of the fater "Set". You put the all together And you have light of the moon of ra light of the father set. Its egypt for christ sake people It deals with the sun and light allot. Ore-az known to the greeks as hamin (kingdom) AT ( of the sons) Ore (light of the moon of ra) the minataur. The utilization of the O in such fashion is a common trait in theses days and ages. Just because you know some named O somthing or somthing O something or even have ore in their name doesn't mean they are horace. example connan o'brian. O is logically a gender nuetral not necisarally male or female just an identified for children however in Ore-az's case it it clearly stated that the child was a male son of the father "set"'s light.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.14.131.109 (talk) 08:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC).
