Talk:Honda CR-X
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i have a crx hf 1990 i put a 1.6 v-tec head on it it starts fine but it over heats after a while n e body know why?
> Might be a faulty head-gasket or one of the wrong type. This would alow hot gasses to mix with the cooling-fluid.
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[edit] Two suggestions
I think this page should be laid out much like the page for the Honda Civic with a section for the first generation, then second, then third/del sol.
I also think that much of the data from this earlier page (pasted below) can be incorporated sensibly with this new layout.
Models
Mk I (introduced 7/1983)
CR-X HF (USDM)
* Weight - 777 kg (1714 lb) * Engine - EV2 (1984), EW2 (1985), D15A2 (1986-87), SOHC 8-valve * Power - 58 hp SAE (42 kW)
CR-X Si (USDM)
* Weight - 897 kg (1977 lb) * Engine - EW3 (1984-85), D15A3 (1986-87), SOHC 12-valve * Power - 91 hp (66 kW) @ 5500 rpm / 93 ft·lbf @ 4500 rpm
CR-X (Unlabeled, but actually a DX) (USDM)
* Weight - 878 kg (1936 lb) * Engine - EW1 or d15a2, SOHC 12-valve (3-barrel carburetor) * Power - 76 hp (58 kW) / 85 ft·lbf
CR-X (UKDM)
* Weight - 878 kg (1936 lb) * Engine - D16A8, ZC DOHC 16-valve (fuel injection) * Power - 123 hp (58 kW)
Mk II (introduced 9/1987)
USDM
CRX Si 1.6 16v (1988-1991)
* Weight - 915 kg (2,017 lb) - (1988), 988 kg (2,174 lb) - (1989-91) * Engine - Honda D16A6 SOHC 16-valve I-4, 1595cc * Power - 108 hp @ 6000 rpm / 100 ft·lbf @ 5000 rpm (105 hp for 88 models)
CRX (Unlabeled, commonly known as DX) 1.5 16v (1988-1991)
* Weight - 872 kg (1,922 lb) - (1988), 954 kg (2,103 lb) - (1989-91) + 33 lb for AT * Engine - Honda D15B2 SOHC 16-valve I-4, 1493cc with dual-point fuel injection * Power - 92 hp @ 6000 rpm / 89 ft·lbf @ 4500 rpm
CRX HF 1.5 8V (1988-1991)
* Weight - 857 kg (1,819 lb) - (1988), 892 kg (1,967 lb) - (1989-91) * Engine - Honda D15B6 SOHC 16-valve I-4, 1493 cc * Power - 62 hp @ 4500 rpm / 90 ft·lbf @ 2000 rpm
European domestic market (EDM)
CR-X 1.6i-16 (ED9)
* Weight - 899 kg (1982 lb) * Engine - D16A9, DOHC , ZC * Power - 132 hp (95 kW)130 PS * Torque - 106 ft·lbf @ 5700 rpm * 0-100 km/h - 7.5 sec.
CR-X 1.6i-VT (EE8)
* Weight - 1010 kg (2227 lb) * Engine - B16A1, DOHC 16-valve, VTEC * Power - 160 bhp @ 7600 rpm * Torque - 112 ft·lbf t@ 7100 rpm * 0-100 km/h - 7.1 sec.
Standard equipment:
* Alloy wheels (14") * Full "leatherette" seats (embroidered with "CR-X VTEC" in red stitching) * Electric sunroof * Electric windows * Electric mirrors * VT spoiler
Optional equipment:
* Rubber dashboard mat (rare) * Air conditioning (rare, +20 kg/44 lb) * CR-X mats + mud flaps * CR-X armrest (rare) * CR-X fog lights (rare)
Japanese domestic market (JDM)
CR-X 1.5X (dual carb) (EF6)
* Weight - 840 kg (1852 lb) * Engine - D15, SOHC * Power - 106 hp @ 6500 rpm * Torque - 95 ft·lbf @ 4500 rpm
Optional equipment:
* Glass roof (+10 kg/22 lb) * Sun roof (+20 kg/44 lb)
CR-X Si (EF7)
* Weight - 890 kg (1962 lb) * Engine - ZC, 16-valve DOHC * Power - 132 hp @ 6800 rpm * Torque - 106 ft·lbf @ 5700 rpm
CR-X Exclusive
A special edition JDM Si with camel interior, wooden gear knob, glass top and upgraded sound system. It was produced only for 1989 and only for the Japanese market. 350 were manufactured.
CR-X SiR (EF8) EF8 Honda CRX SiR Enlarge EF8 Honda CRX SiR
* Weight - 970 kg (2139 lb) * Engine - B16A, DOHC 16-valve, VTEC * Power - 160 bhp @ 7600 rpm * Torque - 112 ft·lbf @ 7000 rpm
Standard equipment:
* Air conditioning * Alloy wheels * Half-leather seats * Power steering * Dual Map Lights
Optional equipment:
* ABS (+~20 kg/44 lb) * Climate control * "CR-X" mats + mud flaps * Glass roof (+10 kg/22 lb) * Sun roof (+20 kg/44 lb) * Centre armrest * Rubber dashboard mat (rare, possible option) * Folding electric mirrors (electric mirrors are standard) * Limited slip differential * Adjustable Headlights * Front bumper pole for parking * Rear Fog Lights * Heated Seats * Front Fog Lights
[edit] Move Suggestion
I suggest that this page should be moved to the correct name of of the cars - the Honda CR-X. I don't know about North American markets, but the "Civic" name does not appear on these cars elsewhere. In fact, the original CR-X in Japan was the "Ballade Sports CR-X" - therefore techinically it was originally part of the Ballade series (though yes, the Ballade was in turn based on the Civic). The second generation CR-X was known simply as the "CR-X". --Zilog Jones 19:20, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
- According to Honda.com[1], it was introduced as the "Civic CR-X", and later sold as the "Ballade CR-X". I distinctly recall "Civic CR-X" badges on the early cars here in the USA, and just "CRX" on the later ones. --SFoskett 14:24, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
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- The first generation of the CR-X (the coupé one) was called Civic CR-X in Europe. The second generation (the targa top, called CR-X Del Sol in North America) was simply called CR-X in Europe. --Pc13 14:30, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
- OK, I guess I was wrong about the first CR-X in Europe then. But still, AFAIK the second generation model was known simply as the CR-X with no prefixes, and the EF7 and EF8 are by the far the most common examples. To cater for both first two generations of CR-X, I still think just "Honda CR-X" would be the more appropriate title - and not forgetting the hyphen before the 'X', which seems to have been totally omitted in the current article. --Zilog Jones 16:37, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
- I have moved the page to "Honda CR-X", to coincide with Honda's official name of the car ("CR-X", and not "CRX" - Google searches just prove people's laziness in writing hypenated acronyms), and to cover all bases in that the second generation model was known as the CR-X everywhere, and the first one was "Civic CR-X" outside of Japan and "Ballade Sports CR-X" within Japan - making "CR-X" the only common name between all models sold everywhere. I have also added A LOT of redirects to account for name variations and ommissions of the hyphen in "CR-X". --Zilog Jones 13:18, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
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- Not to poke holes, but on the back of the Mk2 Civic Coupé CR-X (on my UK 16i16 at least) the hyphen is not present, nor is it present on any of the bodywork stickers, which may explain why the hyphen was missed originally? Perhaps it's not just laziness? --Kamrock 00:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
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- My undestanding is that for the Mk2, the JDM was badged CR-X and the EDM and USDM were badged CRX. Sounds like a well researched marketing decision to me! --Markcoffey 15:33, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
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Hi, according to the Japanese honda sources, the first generation CR-X was called the Ballade Sports, and the 2nd generation was called the Cyber CR-X (nothing to do with the cyberkit). The CR-X was called CR-X in Japan, but CRX in all other countries, other countries had stickers on the middle rear section of the car, while in japan they'd have the Actual CR-X logo moulded on the rear centre piece between the lights.
I should also point out some errors Firstly the CR-X ancronym on this site is incorrect. The correct acronym from honda.co.jp is Civic Renaissance Model-X Secondly the 2nd generation CR-X was actually made till 1992, not 1991. As there are rare 1992 models(maybe i'm wrong on this as 91 made cars might be released as 92 models) Third, the CR-X SiR in Japan started from 1989 not 1990. Last, but not least, it states on this site that one of the rarest options was the glass roof, yet half of the models in japan had glass roofs (si, SiR, exclusive, Ltd edition and even 1.5x).email me for any questions or references. bumthology@hotmail.com - Proud owner of a CR-X
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- I don't know about half the models having glass roof. I have seen several JDM Mk2's (2 of my own and 15-20 owned by friends) and I've only seen 2 glass roofs. As for changes to the site, why don't you sign up and change the facts you believe are wrong - thats how Wikipedia works! --Markcoffey
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- Maybe you aussies got all the glass roof ones! -Markcoffey
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- In the US 1991 was the last model year for the CR-X. There was a mid-year (1991.5?) revision but to my knowledge there was no official 1992 CR-X in the US. There was a one year gap before the first Del Sols were introduced as 1993 models. -- former owner of a 1991.5 CR-X
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- Another little known fact about CRX history is that there was a convertable edition made. It was called the CRX TT (which stands for Targa Top). There was only 300 of these cars made. Once in a while you can find pictures of an actual one online but they are very few. Today only a handful of actual TT's are around despite there being a bunch of aftermarket conversions where people tried to make their own TT. In summery, it exists but is kind of like bigfoot.
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- To my knowledge the TT was not a factory model, it certainly isn't mentioned in any of the Honda brochures or car magazines I've collected over the years. It was likely some shop that chopped a bunch of them and badged them to appear more professionally done. I've seen a few CRX chop jobs, all of them horribly done. -Dawson 05:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Curb weight
The curb weight of the second gen CRX varied between 1988 and 1990 because of the alterations the door and doorframe to accomodate door mounted seatbelts instead of B-pillar mounted belts, as well as the change from rear drum brakes to rear discs.
[edit] CR-X in movies
The AMC Pacer page references where that auto appears in movies, should this page have that also? I know that CR-Xs appear in the Movie 'True Lies' a white one I believe, and also in Terminator 2: Judgement Day, one drives by during the motorcycle chase scene
has anyone noticed the similarity between the CRX and the Honda Insight?
[edit] needs a complete rewrite
All it is is atats. It needs information on the car, not just stats. Karrmann 05:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't need a complete rewrite. The page is fine as is.
I haven't visited this page in awhile, but wow, somebody has really raped it. It used to have so much more information. The references have been butchered. And who put the ugly body kit del Slo as an example of a CRX. Horrible. I will need to got the CRX community on this right away!
10:45, 20 June 2006
[edit] Do not re-add this image
The image I'm reffering to is this image to be exact:
The reason: the pic is incorrect (Picture of Del Sol). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hondasaregood (talk • contribs) 18:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC).
Use this image: The Del Sol was not only the successor to the CR-X, but was sold as the CRX Del Sol in some markets. Hence the photo can be used to illustrate this.
Tartanperil 00:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Don't use this image: The CR-X del Sol is not a CR-X and anyone who thinks it is needs to do some proper research!(Ditto for that rubbish about criticism of the S2000)Hondasaregood 07:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] CR-X vs CRX
Further to above, I had though the debate ended with "CR-X" being the most correct.
However, Dmolavi has changed back to "CRX" offering a link to hondacars.com and a copy of the original CRX brochure as evidence (see history page). Both are wrongly used as reference to the generic name of the CR-X.
Certainly Hondacars.com refers to "CRX", however the Japanese Honda page refers to "CR-X". Dmolavi's "original CRX brochure" reference is for the series 2 (1988-), so not the original CRX brochure at all.
Now there's no debate that the USDM series 2 CR-X was called "CRX". But to assert the car's USDM name as it's world name is not only US-centric, but plain wrong.
As above the JDM name is "CR-X", and I can add to this that I own 3 series 1 CR-Xs all made in the CR-X's land of design, manufacture, and origin - Japan. All three are named "Honda Ballade Sports CR-X" or "Honda CR-X" on their legal papers.
Hence "CR-X" is the car's original name, in its original market - and hence the correct generic world name for CR-Xs.
Tartanperil 00:49, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
My bad, didn't realize the brochure was series 2. Feel free to revert my CR-X -> CRX edit. --Dmolavi 01:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
(oops, added my suggestions twice. fixed that)
