Talk:Homology theory
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At the intuitive level homology is taken to be an equivalence relation, such that chains C and D are homologous on the space X if the chain C − D is a boundary of a chain of one dimension higher. A k-chain is thought of as a formal combination
Σ aidi
where the ai are integers and the di are k-dimensional simplices on X. The boundary concept here is that taken over from the boundary of a simplex. This explanation is in the style of 1900, and proved somewhat naive, technically speaking.
Ummm...in English, for those of us with math ph.d.'s in something other than topology??
I agree... this needs to be rewritten, bearing in mind that the people reading it don't already know about the subject!!
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- Guys, that is the intuitive, geometric motivation. It is how homology was first conceived. The formal definition is less accessible. Charles Matthews 20:36, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
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- "simplex" then "semplices" and not "simplices". ahmedSammyH 13:16, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
- I'm a topologist, and I think that this can be made much more intuitive: for example, the example of curves on a surface being homologous in terms of cobordism? This also lends itself well to pictures.
- What I'm not sure is why we're trying to define "homology" as in "these two curves are homologous" on Homology theory. Wouldn't this explanation (hopefully clarified/simplified) fit better on Homology? I know it would require some restructuring there, but I think this concept needs a home, for all the readers out there who aren't algebraic topologists. Tesseran 03:42, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Is this complete nonsense?
To single out one sentence (in bold) from the "simplest case" given in the "Simple explanation":
- "At the intuitive level homology is taken to be an equivalence relation [on chains] [...]. The simplest case is in graph theory, with C and D vertices and homology with a meaning coming from the oriented edge E from P to Q having boundary Q — P. A collection of edges from D to C, each one joining up to the one before, is a homology. In general, a k-chain is thought of as [...]"
Again, what on earth does this mean? How exactly does a collection of edges from D to C correspond to an equivalence relation on chains? What does it mean for one edge to be "before" another edge, in a collection of edges? What would it mean for two edges from D to C not to "join up" to each other?
This wouldn't be so frustrating if there were references and external links. Buster79 23:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)