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This apparently had a negative fan reaction? I thought it was generally considered a fan favourite. DrDisco

When the episode first came out, it was seen by many fans as being an extremely dark episode - how can it not be? Homer's incompetance drives this poor guy insane - but if you look at the capsules at snpp.com or the archives at Alt.Tv.Simpsons you'll find some pretty negative reviews. I highly recommend listening to the DVD commentary for the episode because it is easily one of the best. In it, they talk about the "generation gap", they say the older fans that have been watching since Episode 1 generally dislike the episode and the fans who spent their youth watching the The Simpsons generally like it. -- Scorpion0422 15:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 316

When Lenny says Homer should have been killed 316 times by his count, is there any significance to this number? I was wondering if there's some hidden trivia behind it.JW 02:07, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Production

Hm, to tell you the truth I never liked this episode, although I know that puts me in the minority. I was asked to look at the production section to see whether it's more of an analysis section, but I think it's good. It talks about the story's origins and what the writers meant to do with the episode, which goes to the story's origins, indeed its making or production, rather than an after-the-fact Comic Book Guy commentary. The only thing I wonder about is completing this article while leaving the one-time character article Frank Grimes separate. Well, that, and I think "buddies" in the intro is slightly slangy. Reception section is good and well-sourced. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 23:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review (currently on hold)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is well written.

   a (prose): b (structure): c (MoS): d (jargon):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (inline citations): c (reliable): d (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Overall:

   a Pass/Fail:

I am putting this review on hold for now, because only minor changes need to be made. I will pass the article without reservation provided the following things are done:

1 (a). Prose. I am a huge stickler for this on Wikipedia, as you might have noticed from my previous reviews. Here is a list of the following problems I saw with this article:

• • "35 Inductry Way" is a typo
  • "and and gives Milhouse a job" is a typo
  • Every instance of "Grimes'" should be "Grimes's", see Apostrophe#Possessive_forms_of_nouns_ending_in_s
  • Homer Simpson is one of the most popular characters in TV history, yet he embodies many negative characteristics and Grimes, a "real American hero", is seen as the "bad guy" in the episode. is a run on sentence, should be changed to something like "Homer Simpson is one of the most popular characters in TV history, yet he embodies many negative characterics. Grimes, a "real American hero", is seen as the "bad guy" in the episode."
  • Since this show is an American show, I believe the article should favor the American English spellings of words. Hence "favourite" is not acceptable

1 (b). Structure.

• • The side-plot of Bart's factory is kind of just given a sentence at the end of every paragraph concerning the story of Homer and Grimes. Consider starting separate paragraphs for these, or weaving them into the paragraphs concerning Homer's story arc. I don't like the way it reads right now, and I find it very distracting.

2 (b). Inline citations.

• • Citations need to come after punctuation, not before. Do a quick run-through of the article to make sure they're all in the right place.

6 (a). Tagged and captioned.

• • Does the image in the infobox need to be tagged and captioned to be promoted to GA status? I don't know, but I would really like to see it done, if for no other reason than to be thorough and complete.

This is all I have; make these minor changes, and I'll promote the article to GA immediately. I preemptively congratulate you on a job well done, as I can tell that a lot of hard work has gone into the article. Good luck! –King Bee ^{(T • C)} 19:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

In regards to 1(b), originally, the Bart story was put at the end of the summary, which I disliked because I think it took away from the real ending of the episode (which in my mind is one of the best episode endings). I also generally dislike seperating stories so usually I just try mix them together. The Bart story is pretty minor and it really only needs 2 mentions.

Two mentions, sure, I agree. Bart's story is really minor in that episode. Just try to make them flow better with the paragraphs in which those live. –King Bee ^{(T • C)} 20:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I'm done implementing your suggestions. -- Scorpion 21:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Nicely done. I'll pass the article now. =) –King Bee ^{(T • C)} 21:49, 2 March 2007 (UTC)