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Contents 1 Regional ITV Transmission Times in the UK 2 Frame rate 3 Epidodes section 4 Cast Section 5 Beth's surname 6 Bidding War 7 please can someone tell 8 Blank roles 9 Separate character articles redirected to character list articles 10 Bianca Taylor 10.1 Answer 11 Ad Breaks 12 Belinda Emmett 13 Where's The Article Gone? 14 Removal of Most External Links 15 Classic Episodes airing on Five Life

[edit] Regional ITV Transmission Times in the UK

Not sure of these, but started the list with those I remember. Not sure about lunchtime showings as they moved all over the place during the Gulf War IIRC. I do know the showings were networked in 1999 with 1pm and 5pm screenings. ITV finished with Ep 2840 in June 2000 I think.

[edit] Frame rate

Is it just me, or have they tampered with the frame rate? It looks like it has been filmed at 30fps and then converted to 25fps. Can anyone confirm? If yes, then my question is why? Do they do it because they have NTSC audiences? Or do they do it to give it an American "FEEL" about it? Would doing this somehow draw a larger audience, who might associate the framerate to highly successful shows like Dawsons Creek, The O.C. etc, and be subliminally drawn to watch Home & Away?

They switched to filming in digital in 2004/2005. This gives the show a different look, and is probably what you noticed. TV is broadcast at 25fps regardless of how it was filmed, so filming at 30fps would means you would have to drop every sixth frame, or have everyone moving slower --220.240.3.154 06:45, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Epidodes section

This section needs to be revised or removed. It currently contains a list of "cliffhanger" moments without any framework or context to place them in (including listing events pertaining to certain characters that haven't been described). --Daveb 07:32, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

No improvements made. Section did not add meaningful information. Section removed boldly.--Daveb 06:43, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cast Section

What is with all these people who are constantly tinkering with the cast section, especially those adding false information?? Austvguy 12:27, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I've tidied up the bit about up about returning characters correcting factual mistakes. I've never heard about the Frank Lloyd story myself, but I'll assume it to be correct. --Ryan86 23:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beth's surname

Why isn't she listed as Beth Sutherland. Did she ever say she was changing her name back after divorcing Rhys?

Answer: In the season finale of 2004 Alf said that she was "a good woman Beth Sutherland" to which she replied "Hunter, Beth Hunter" James Bond stylee. --Ryan86 21:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Brad92 16:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bidding War

Was there really a bidding war between ITV and five? I thought ITV/Carlton just decided to dump the soap like they did with so many others eg, PCBH, Crossroads, High Road etc that weren't performing so well in the ratings.... It stinks that they made us wait so long before five could show it Alextimmins 19:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't personally remember any such bidding war otherwise why would ITV have dropped it and left it? Fools! Cls14 22:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

The contract for the renewal came up and ITV wanted to pay a lower price than it was paying at the time. So Southern Star who distribute it decided to hire a researcher to see what appeal H&A still had in the UK, and found that it was making ITV money. It was Seven that decided to open up the bidding - Channel 5 offered to pay a lower price and to also commit to the show for as long as it is made, which ITV weren't prepared to do. Hence why Seven decided to sell it to Five.

[edit] please can someone tell

Please can someone go on backtothebay.net and tell us what will happen for the next months or so. great cheers!

luke677 9;47, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you do that yourself?

kogsquinge 11:50, 17 June 2006

zoe will return she aint dead and kims dad did something regrettable!

Wikipedia is not a discussion board or forum, so please don't use it as one. Thanks. —JD[^{don't talk}|_email] 19:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blank roles

Er, what are "Blank roles"?? Camillus (talk) 19:32, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

They look suspiciously like a list of people that someone knows appeared on Home and Away, but don't know they actually played.--Ryan86 20:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Separate character articles redirected to character list articles

Because virtually all of the articles on the characters only contained an infobox and a mention of the actor who played the character, I've redirected most of them to either List of Home and Away characters or Current Home and Away characters. Per Wikipedia:Notability (fiction):

1. Major and notable minor characters (and places, concepts, etc.) in a work of fiction should be covered within the article on that work of fiction. If an encyclopedic treatment of such a character causes the article on the work itself to become long, then that character can be given a separate article.
2. Non-notable minor characters (and places, concepts, etc.) in a work of fiction should be merged with short descriptions into a "List of characters." This list should reside in the article relating to the work itself, unless either becomes long, in which case a separate article for the list is good practice. The list(s) should contain all characters, races, places, etc. from the work of fiction, with links to those that have their own articles.
3. It is useful to add redirects to the article page or list of minor characters, from anything that's listed in there.
4. It is often informative to include plot summaries (and other spoilers) in articles on works of fiction. However, please keep them reasonably short, as the point of Wikipedia is to describe the works, not simply summarize them. It is generally appropriate for a plot summary to remain part of the main article, not a lengthy page of its own. In some cases, sub-articles and lists are created when the potential for an encyclopedic coverage is hindered by the recommended length guidelines of one article.

I just thought I'd leave an explanation here in case users are wondering why. Thanks. Extraordinary Machine 01:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bianca Taylor

What is going on with this character? She was "supposed" to premiere this month and I have seen her name come and go from the Wiki page. Emma's page says that she will be Belle's sis. was this just a hoax?

[edit] Answer

Seems suspiciously like a hoax to me. It would also have be to be said that if Bianca were to be introduced to the show it would sister through adoption) (23:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Ad Breaks

Why are there 3 ad breaks in Australia and only 1 in UK. Is the programme on longer in Autralia?--SimonPeter 14:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Commercial TV in Australia runs ads roughly each 7 or 8 minutes. Ad breaks are more frequent than in the UK, but shorter. Asa01 23:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

In Australia there are no commercials between programs. One show ends and the next one immediately starts. This means all the breaks are during shows, where advertisments are more likely to be seen. Austvguy 12:05, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belinda Emmett

Whilst it is cruel and distressing that Belinda Emmett has died at such a young age, this article is about the current cast and the show itself, not an actress who left the show a while ago. This would set a precedent for other long running shows. (Quentin X 17:23, 13 November 2006 (UTC))

I didn't add this section but did clean it up. It doesn't quite start a precedent since the The Young Doctors and Neighbours articles have already had Deceased Cast Members sections in place for some weeks (at least). Given that Emmett, as well as the other actress to play Rebecca in the show (Megan Connolly), both died at a young age, I think the section is quite notable and should stay. Soap opera articles throughout wikipedia already vary in the detail used to describe the cast, characters, writers, producers, storylines, programme format ratings, etc. One tiny paragraph here is not a big problem really. This article is not only about the current cast, but is about the entire show. Asa01 18:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Having seen pages for The Young Doctors and Neighbours I can see your point. However this page should be in keeping with the other pages. We do not need to know the details of her death; that is for her page. A box format like the Neighbours page would be in keeping with the article. (Quentin X 19:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC))

Someone has reinstated this, but not my last version which I thought was OK, but a version with extraneous information about her death and who her husband was, that should not really be here but on her own page. I think I will restore my version. Asa01 21:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where's The Article Gone?

• Checking this article on 21/12/2006 at 16:44hrs GMT it doesn't seem to be here! Where is it? Cls14 16:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
• I have reverted the page back to its most recent state prior to it being blanked by someone. Cls14 16:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of Most External Links

I noticed that the majority of the links to major sites containing information about Home and Away have been removed, with three so-called official sites remaining, all of which contain relatively little information if readers were wanting to further their knowledge past what is currently has rather limited information on wikipedia. For instance for those wishing to learn more about the show, which is probably came to this article in the first, will find much more informations on good fansites such as BTTB.net for H&A and PB.net and NF.com for Neighbours, rather than official sites which rarely provide you with more information than what's happening next week and that it's possible to have more than ten moving images on the one page (Ryan86 21:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC))

Some tosser has done it again

I've put the links back that the knobhead deleted.

Please see Talk:Neighbours, where a similar discussion took place. It was decided there that all external links to fansites should be removed from the Neighbours article to avoid mass addition of non-notable ones and arguments over the order. I have seen similar problems happen on this article and thought removal of most of the external links was appropriate. Wikipedia is not a repository of external links, but a link to an Open Directory Project page would be acceptable per Wikipedia:External links. J Di 17:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

It says that a "A web directory category, when deemed appropriate by those contributing to the article, with preference to open directories." can be considered, this page says Wikipedia:External links under links to be considered. Yesterday I added a site which had a directory of all the Home & Away fansites but the link was today deleted by J Di, isn't this site allowed? Also, I haven't seen any arguments over the order on here at all. Chris 212 05:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Classic Episodes airing on Five Life

Is anyone willing to provide a link that proves that this is true. It's something that I've not heard about yet, but would be delighted if it's true. I didn't want to go and delete it, however. Ryan86 20:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)