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[edit] U.S. Roads Newsletter Issue #1

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter

Volume 1, Issue 1 10 February 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project News Notability of state highways is challenged
Important deletion debates
Featured subproject
Featured member
From the editor
Archives  |  Newsroom   Shortcut : WP:USRD/N
Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here. Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 20:34, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interstate 410

Just FYI, I have uploaded a new map of Interstate 410 image:I-410_map.svg. It's a little cleaner, holds better to the established colors, and has shields. 25or6to4 12:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Atascosa County

I will make up a road map for Atascosa county, but I won't be able to get to it until Saturday probably. Just FYI. 25or6to4 22:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Atascosa County road map finished. I inserted it on your test page. Let me know what you think. BTW, you missed a shield for one FM highway, #3510. 25or6to4 06:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I have updated the map with the requests you made. The original map had FM signs at 25px, now they are at 40 px. Had to add a few arrow pointers, but everything looks OK so far.
Next, Freeloadr made Liberty County, and I'd like to make a map for that page, too. Can you make up the remaining signs for us? Thanks! 25or6to4 14:35, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lists of highways in X County Texas

I took the liberty upon myself to jump in and start this. I've done my home county List of highways in Liberty County, Texas (no pun intended. eh...maybe it was, heh) and was wondering if that what you had in mind, or were you prefering something as to like State Highway Loops lists with mileage perhaps and year of commsision, perhaps section of county (North, NW, Central, ect) or community/city? Guide me in what you feel is best for the project, give me a template of how you would like this organized and I will use it as I work to populate the lists for other counties in the area. I could take it in whatever direction I wanted, but I know the lists need to be uniform in setup. Thanks. Feedloadr 23:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Roads Newsletter Issue #2

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter

Volume 1, Issue 2 24 February 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project News Notability of state highways is upheld
Deletion debates Kansas Turnpike is now a Good Article
Featured subproject U.S. Roads IRC channel created
Featured member Infoboxes and Navigation subproject started
From the editors
Archives  |  Newsroom   Shortcut : WP:USRD/NEWS
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Apologies for the late delivery. Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:30, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Template Barnstar
I hereby award Holderca1 this Template Barnstar due to the marvelous {{jct}}, which I've only just discovered. Thanks for the awesome template! —Scott5114 17:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 3

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter

Volume 1, Issue 3 10 March 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project news Inactivity?
Deletion debates Article Improvement Drive
Featured subproject Good and Featured Articles
Featured member
From the editors
Archives  |  Newsroom   Shortcut : WP:USRD/NEWS
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[edit] Active user verification

Hello, Holderca1. Due to the high number of inactive users at WP:USRD, we are asking that you verify that you are still an active contributor of the project. To do so, please add an asterisk (*) after your name on Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Newsletter/List. Users without one by the next issue in 2 weeks will be removed off the list and off the respective road projects as well. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks. Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox IN State Road

I sent it to WP:TFD because it was never used, and unnecessary. Also, when all the articles are brought up to standards, they will be calling {{Infobox road}}, like Indiana State Road 5.  V60 VTalk · VDemolitions 22:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notice !!!

Hello. This is just a notice that I have posted a comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball#Deadline and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball#Final Proposal regarding the formatting for the game logs for the 2007 Major League Baseball season pages. The deadline is two weeks from today, on March 28. Please voice your opinion over there. All the necessary information may be found on the Project's talk page. Any questions that you may have may be asked at my talk page. Ksy92003 talk·contribs 23:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shields

Just so you know, I'm going to be working on Louisiana state highway shields, hopefully getting a complete set done by the end of the week. Unfortunately, Image:Louisiana 31.svg uploaded with an extra path, so my first batch is a bust, but it shouldn't set me back too far.

And don't ask me why, because I don't know. *wink* -- NORTH talk 08:13, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Second try was a charm. Should be complete through 110 at the moment. More to come. -- NORTH talk 08:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, it should be good fun. The reason why is that I saw the sorry state of affairs at Louisiana Highway 888, with the junction list using SVG shields that may or may not exist, and the rest of the infobox using PNG shields that may or may not exist. -- NORTH talk 17:25, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
That's cool. I was going to take care of the infoboxes after I got the rest of the shields up – that way nothing's lost if a route has a PNG but no SVG yet – but it shouldn't take too long, so it doesn't matter.
Rather than creating a Louisiana WikiProject, I was thinking it might be a good idea to create a WikiProject for all the state highways that don't have their own. That way, we can standardize everything in the meantime while we wait for demand to increase for a separate wikiproject. I'll probably propose it on WT:USRD once I finish the LA shield images and the NJ infoboxes. -- NORTH talk 19:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Then what is USRD for? As stated on the project page, it explicitly states "To some extent, standardizing the state highway articles for which a WP does not exist yet." USRD already does just that. We do not need the new WikiProject. If you guys do propose it, be prepared to be shot down.  V60 VTalk · VDemolitions 02:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Then to what extent do we need any state WikiProject? How does WP:USRD provide any guidelines for creating state highway articles the way WP:NJSCR does? -- NORTH talk 02:16, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
IMHO, state projects that are currently inactive shouldn't exist as standalone projects. USRD does provide a structure; however, it is through the subproject template and not the main project page. There's nothing stopping anyone from copying the structure from the template to the project page, though. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 02:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, to further explain, here is an excerpt from an IRC conversation:
TwinsMetsFan: since every project should follow the subproject template, why not make a structure on USRD and then reserve the state pages for tweaks to that structure?
vishwin60: dunno
vishwin60: every project is different
vishwin60: especially MD
TwinsMetsFan: that's why if we really want to have consistency, and shut the others up at the same time, we should put a skeleton up
TwinsMetsFan: and let states warp it however they want
TwinsMetsFan: within reason
vishwin60: good idea
vishwin60: that would emphasize the statement "To some extent, standardizing the state highway articles for which a WP does not exist yet."
TwinsMetsFan: exactly
TwinsMetsFan: USRD is no longer a shell parent - we need to emphasize that
vishwin60: true
TwinsMetsFan: we are on the verge of massive changes, and all that remains is for someone to budge or say something before i spring it on them
TwinsMetsFan: after all, imho, the line between "consensus" and "be bold" is becoming very blurry
vishwin60: oh yeah, from very recent discussions
TwinsMetsFan: right
TwinsMetsFan: between people who read policies like the Bible and others who want to discuss adding a period to the end of a sentence, consensus and being bold is not matching up
TwinsMetsFan: the policy freaks don't have consensus but they do it anyway
TwinsMetsFan: the discussion lovers inhibit boldness by demanding consensus
vishwin60: so then IAR could be invoked???
TwinsMetsFan: based on everything we presented in the newsletter last week, we're almost to that point
vishwin60: ignoring them?
TwinsMetsFan: no, something has to be done, and if it means ignoring all rules, then so be it
TwinsMetsFan: If the rules prevent you from improving or MAINTAINING Wikipedia, ignore them (emphasis mine)
vishwin60: that's definite and indefinite
TwinsMetsFan: right, but i think it applies in the USRD structure case
TwinsMetsFan: heh, to answer North's second question, may as well use the idea i presented up above
TwinsMetsFan: with the flexible structure
TwinsMetsFan: er, "flexible" structure

Hope that helps. V60 VTalk · VDemolitions 02:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

If WP:USRD can serve as this proposed state highways project, I'm all for that. In it's current state, I don't see that, but it's certainly possible that we could tweak it so it could. -- NORTH talk 02:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Discussion moved to WT:USRD. -- NORTH talk 02:46, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, for a minute there, I forgot this was my talk page. :) --Holderca1 13:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know, my "by the end of the week" for the LA shields was a joke. (1) My weekend got busier than I expected, and (2) there were a lot more shields to make than I expected. Feel free to help out, maybe take one of the columns on List of numbered highways in Louisiana, or just choose an arbitrary range; just let me know what you're working on so we don't duplicate our efforts.

Or if you want to leave it to me, that's okay too, just don't get your hopes up on a completion date. -- NORTH talk 19:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I hope you stay, but I understand your issues, and am more than happy to pick up where you left off with Louisiana. -- NORTH talk 02:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I-26 Tenn shields

Oh, sorry about that. When I saw it I guess they weren't uploaded yet; it was a bunch of redlinks, which looked terrible. But that's what I was hoping would happen, nobody'd edit the article and it could just be reverted...but since it works it's all good, eh? Good lookin out. --MPD T / C 23:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 4

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter

Volume 1, Issue 4 24 March 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project news March 16 IRC Meeting
Deletion debates Kentucky and Utah projects demoted
Featured subproject A quick look at the structural integrity of state highway WikiProjects
Featured member
From the editors
Archives | Newsroom Shortcut : WP:USRD/NEWS
Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here. — --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your comments in the Talk pages in the US Road Project. Maybe the uhm leaders will wake up and understand that there is other people out there that disagree with them trying to run all the state projects themselves. I am not agianst having a single standard for all of the states but uhm lets do it by telling everybody that we want to do it by hitting up every user that has been editing the roads. Its getting me growing tired of their refusal to even discuss items on thier own talk pages. --Mihsfbstadium 13:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interstate 10 in Florida exits

If you're going to remake the exit list for Interstate 10 in Florida, could you add the Rest Areas, Welcome Center, Weigh Stations, and the like to it as well? ---- DanTD 15:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, so perhaps they should be on a separate list, like some state-specific Interstate 95 articles. ---- DanTD 17:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Farm to Market Roads in the Gulf Coast of Texas

I've been meaning to put it somewhere for others to use. The site isn't complete, and hasn't been updated since 2003 that I can tell but it has some SE Texas county lists of FM roads. Click on by County, and some Counties are linked, others aren't but have info in them, and others are empty. Or Just I've found a couple roads this guy forgot to list in multiple counties. But its better than TxDOT, and as long as it can be back with Txdot files I don't know any reason we can't use it. The link I am giving you just has all he has in his database, with the main county it travels through in parenthesis. Here's the link- http://web.wtez.net/c/g/cg63550/highways/fm/list.htm Not sure how or why I stumbled on it years ago, but I bookmarked it and once I got invovled in this, I had to go dig through my old bookmarks to find it. Wish it was more, but its helpful none the less.Feedloadr 15:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I saw you had it set up going straight to the County article, and I kinda of questioned that. I figured you had a logic to it and let it be. I personally think it would be better aimed at the List of highways in County X though.Feedloadr 16:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 5

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter

Volume 1, Issue 5 5-8 April 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project news Good and Featured Articles are promoted
Deletion debates Interstate 238 revert war
Featured subproject IRC discussion comes to light
Featured member
From the editors
Archives | Newsroom Shortcut : WP:USRD/NEWS
Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here.Rschen7754bot 00:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)