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[edit] Crossover

In the article, it says ""Hollaback Girl" managed to do this by becoming one of the first records to break down racial and genre barriers in the 2000s. " I'm not so sure about this, as I think that "Hey Ya!" is a better example, since it did get a lot of airplay on alternative rock and hot adult contemporary stations, certainly more so that this song. ErikNY 01:58, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That's quite true, but "Hey Ya!" is an urban song. There has been an ongoing battle between urban and rock music for a long time now. However, in most cases, both urban music and rock music lovers tend to be able to agree on pop music, as it can be described as a cross between two in some terms.
You are correct, but "Hollaback Girl"'s genre is what secured it of this title. Thank you for your input though. DrippingInk 16:14, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I honestly think the difference between "Hey Ya!" and "Hollaback Girl" is that "Hey Ya!" has musical merit and doesn't make our country even stupider than it already is. Also, "Hey Ya!" did, in fact, break down racial barriers in popular music in 2003. "Hollaback Girl" was excreted from the back end of a gibbon (a.k.a Gwen Stefani's Mouth), and it has set our country back five years in racial boundaries, back 10 years in gender boundaries, and back approximately 500 years or more musically. It sounds like little more than people throwing around trashcans somewhat rhythmically, with the awful unpleasantness of Gwen Stefani's evil and disgustingly annoying voice over it.

Oh, by the way, "Hollaback Girl" doesn't have a genre. It is vile noise pollution that is killing America. Anyone who buys or downloads this song is killing America. Don't listen to this drivel, read a book or go learn something, do your goddamned 9th grade homework instead of being stupefied by this mindfuck of a song. (And if you listen to this song, you obviously haven't mentally progressed beyond the 9th grade, so don't argue.)


Thank you for reading my rant.

--George The Man 05:23, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Silly question

I'd like to know WHAT a Hollaback Girl is to begin with? (I'm writing from Europe)

Its supposed to be someone who "hollers back": someone who relies purely on shouting back but never actually fights back and stands up for herself. When Gwen Stefani says "I ain't no hollaback girl", it means she does not have to shout back and that she will be ready to fight her enemies. This meaning has not been proven, according to my knowledge. Ultimate Star Wars Freak 09:43, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

If you want a laugh, check out this over-earnest explanation of the song. RMoloney 00:54, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Here's another funny explanation of the song, by Orange County Weekly.

Does the song "Hollaback Boy" have the same meaning? Gabe Saporta made this song. I don't any way to link it sorry. Le Raine03:43 PM , September 8, 2006

[edit] George Washington Bridge vandalism

If you look at a previous edit of the "George Washington Bridge" article, someone vandalized the page by putting in some of the lines from this song. Why did that person do that?

[edit] Rumour

I'd commented out a passage of speculation, asking for citations; it's been uncommented, but without citations. I've moved it here in the hope of enlightenment:

It is also rumored that Stefani wrote the song to confront Courtney Love, who disparaged Stefani as the music industry's "cheerleader". Some of the confrontational lyrics are:
both of us want to be the winner, but there can only be one
so I'm gonna fight, gonna give it my all, gonna make you fall, gonna sock it to you
that's right, I'm the last one standing, another one bites the dust
are said to be speaking directly to Love.

Rumoured where and by whom? Said by whom? If there's a reputable source, I'm sure that it can be given, and the section replaced. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:41, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

You were given a source a few months ago, which you disgustingly called "gossip", despite the fact that you did not and still do not know whether this is true or not. I have restored the information, as it plays a major role in "Hollaback Girl"'s writing. --Winnermario 13:05, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] the "probing analysis" link

Okay, I'm not going to get into a rv war over this. But what's wrong with the link to the Greg Stacy piece? --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 16:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

I gave it in my edit summary; hang on, I'll just go and dredge it from the history...
Ah, here it is: "rm link to facetious, sub-Pete-&-Dud piece". That sums it up, I think. It doesn't belong here; it contains nothing that we'd like to have gone into the article but couldn't find room for. It's not that I find it unoriginal and unfunny (I mean, I do, but that's not the point), just that it's not suitable for the links section of an encyclopædia. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:23, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Unfortunately OmegaWikipedia doesn't have the courtesy or the patience (or the understanding of Wikipedia) of MarkGallagher, and reinstated the link with an edit summary that merely referred to my reason for removing it as "questionable". If it's questionable, could it be questioned please? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:08, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

I wanna know what's the meaning of the expression: This shit is bananas. Why bananas, what does it represent? I'm from Brazil.

I don't know for sure in this case, but "bananas" is a (slightly old-fashioned) slang term for "mad", "crazy". --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


Hollaback = Houellebecq ? Has anyone thought about this?

[edit] American football

It seems to me that this song was written with the intention of becoming a football stadium anthem (along the lines of, say, Song 2), both lyrically and musically (and even in terms of the video). Not being American, I wouldn't know if this is accurate, or if whoever it is that play music at games have picked up on the song. Any ideas? RMoloney 01:10, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Harlem Bat Girl

What is a "hollaback girl"? Is it a piece of American football cheerleading slang? Don't answer me here, put it in the article. Although the video features cheerleading equals Toni Basil's "Mickey", the drumbeat seems closer to Cameo's "Word Up". Five years from now this article will consist of a paragraph in the article about the album from which the song came; five years after that the article on the album from which it came will be a paragraph in the article about Gwen Stefani; and five years after that the article on Gwen Stefani will be a paragraph in the article on No Doubt. -Ashley Pomeroy 20:05, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Second Stefani song to be pinned for FA status

Now that Cool (song) has earned featured article status, this is the next Gwen Stefani song that will be aiming for the very same honour. I will begin work on the article as soon as possible. --Winnermario 02:27, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Critical response header

If User:Mel Etitis continues to remove my notes or parts of quotes from the critics, I will be filing a complaint—you don't just go and remove something when you feel it does not look appealing to an article. --Winnermario 23:35, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm correcting the appalling English, and I removed criticisms that added nothing to the article (being either nothing more than descriptions – and not very informative descriptions – of the music, or references to the producers' style). File a complaint. The nature of Wikipedia is that anyone can "just go and remove something when [they] feel it does not look appealing to an article", and others can re-add it. That's why I changed what you'd added instead of complaining that you'd added it. If you can't cope with the fact that others can and will edit what you write, Wikipedia may be the wrong place for you; you seem to need our own Web page. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:33, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Mel, although I agree with your edits (and Winnermario, you are free to "file a complaint", but keep in mind Mel's one of the people you might consider filing one with), I don't think it's particularly helpful to invite good editors to leave. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 11:44, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Appalling English? Excuse me? There is no such thing as perfect English, so don't think you're anymore a better contributor to Wikipedia than I am.
And don't bother using cover-ups like "I removed criticisms that added nothing to the article (being either nothing more than descriptions – and not very informative descriptions – of the music, or references to the producers' style)." Criticism is most certainly welcome, but that is besides the point. You went and removed the entire Critical Response section. Unacceptable. --Winnermario 19:24, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Bravo, Winnermario... wherever you have gone. --Hollow Wilerding 20:32, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Eric Greenwood

Can someone specify where Greenwood is from, make the first ref to him its own para, and properly represent things? In a copyedit earlier I made his comments an indented citation because they were long enough but I notice now we have " on top of ", which isn't how it should be. Marskell 22:15, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hollow: don't change from correct to incorrect

You changed:

Internationally, reaction to "Hollaback Girl" was generally positive, but not as overwhelming as it had been in the US.

to

Worldwide, reaction to "Hollaback Girl" was generally positive, but not as overwhelming as it had been in the North America.

That is not accurate on both counts. International, in this usage, means OUT OF, as in "domestic trade" versus "international trade". Worldwide means ALL OF THE WORLD, so here, it would mean the US included. Internationally (out of the US), the song didn't do as well as in the US. Using "worldwide" means: "Around the entire world (which includes the US), it didn't do as well as in the US." International may not be the most precise word here, but worldwide isn't BETTER, it is worse. If you're going to change something, you shouldn't make it less precise than it was to begin with.

Second, North America vs US. The Chart performance section deals with the US only. Billboard is US figures. North America includes the US, Canada, and Mexico. There is a difference. --Tsavage 03:49, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Excellent points. However, I'd point out that "worldwide" and "outside the US" are generally preferable to "internationally" – comparing "international" and "domestic" figures is taking a US POV, and we've got more than enough of that on Wikipedia without insisting on its correctness. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 05:29, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
"international" and "domestic" figures is taking a US POV - Yes, precisely. To risk putting too fine a point on it, the paragraph these changes refer to is the last, in effect, footnote entry in an extremely overlong, absolutely US-centric discussion of the song's performance, based on (except for a sentence or so on another US chart) the numerous different charts of Billboard, which is absolutely the "Voice of America" (as in, America=USA) in the major label music industry. Intentionally or not, the section concerns business in the USA, capped by a few words on the rest of the world. The way it's all written, "internationally" is absolutely clear and appropriate. It should properly be titled, "Chart performance in the US". That's why the section needs a rewrite, as I noted in the FAC talk page... But, yes, I agree with you: "outside the US" would be better still, and in this context would still only highlight the imbalanced US POV (I mentioned above: International may not be the most precise word here, I guess the reversion of the change, which I did, was also a point here...) ;) --Tsavage 15:24, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Canada isn't in the article and I'm Canadian. Wow. Impressively stupid of me, I'd say. Pardon while I include its position. --Hollow Wilerding 20:46, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Replaced "directed at Love" lyrics example

Took this out and replaced with a verse that better illustrates the point of being made that Stefani is addressing Love:

"Both of us want to be the winner
But there can only be one
So I'm gonna fight, gonna give it my all
Gonna make you fall, gonna sock it to you
That's right, I'm the last one standing
Another one bites the dust"

--Tsavage 22:50, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

And I just reverted, as the above lyrics are a better example. --Hollow Wilerding 23:42, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

I won't change it again at this point, but for comparison's sake, and future use, the more illustrative (since it also has one of the 37 "shit"s, and a reference to the cheerleading theme) quote is:

I heard that you were talking shit
And you didn't think that I would hear it
People hear you talking like that, getting everybody fired up
So I'm ready to attack, gonna lead the pack
Gonna get a touchdown, gonna take you out
That's right, put your pom-poms down, getting everybody fired up

--Tsavage 00:31, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Point well made. I will revert to the lyrics you chose, User:Tsavage. --Hollow Wilerding 02:05, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Article upgrade

I replaced the section. Apart from the fact that this article needs a section about the actual music (a song starts with MUSIC, after all, the chart positions and videos come later...), this contained new information, like the fact that there were guitars and trumpets... --Tsavage 04:41, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Since "shit" is so prominently mentioned as a song feature in this article, there should be a description of how "shit" was replaced in the clean versions and video. --Tsavage 04:41, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I replaced the additional Mickey information. Hollow: Please think a minute before reflexively changing so much stuff back. I'm obviously working on the article, not trying to destroy it. Here, MAYBE everyone in the world but me instantly remembers "Mickey". In case not, it is probably useful, interesting background in an article that's supposed to be COMPREHENSIVE, to point out the cheerleading connection. Especially in a paragraph about "pop culture references". Or maybe you don't know the song/chant? It was HUGE... And in the 1980s, an apparently favorite Stefani haunt. So, making that connnection explicit (FA's or any good article should be reasonably self-contained) perhaps sheds some light (duh) on why "Mickey" is echoed/tributed/whatever in the cheerleader-themed "Hollaback". No? --Tsavage 04:56, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Okay, here's what we'll do: I'll attempt to research why the word "shit" appears in the song so frequently, and attempt to locate information on the structure and music. However, as per present time, I must replace the musical structure back into "Composition and meaning" as it is a stub. --Hollow Wilerding 17:55, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
OK, I'll leave it out for now, provided you note your intentions as above on the FAC page as well... --Tsavage 18:59, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pop culture Highlander reference?

I don't get the Highlander reference. On the LP version of Hollaback, I don't hear any musical indication of Highlander. I suppose one could make a connection like this: the complete line in question is, "All the boys want to be the winner, but there can only be one", which does summarize the Highlander series plotline (immortals kill each other off till only one remains), and contains an approximation of the "there can be only one" signature line from the movie (lyrics: "there can only be one"), and the original movie had a Queen soundtrack, and "Another One Bites the Dust" (Queen song) is musically referenced (trumpet stabs) at the end of the same verse, with the lyric "another one bites the dust", and Stefani does seem generally to "reference the 1980s" (Highlander is 1986), so some enterprising music analyst could cite a Highlander connection -- and it's as like as not "true" -- BUT, unsupported, it's complete speculation, and too much of a stretch (ie. original analysis by the editor) the way it's presented here. Might as well have the editors speculate on the meaning of "hollaback girl" as well. IMO, of course... Please correct me if I missed something! --Tsavage 20:09, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. Unless some source is provided which shows that this is more than idle speculation this probably doesn't belong in the article. - Haukur Þorgeirsson 20:14, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I would also agree, because I never inserted the information into the article (it was added long before I signed up on Wikipedia). Check the history for evidence. --Hollow Wilerding 21:24, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
No-one is out to get you here, Hollow :) Tsavage is just trying to improve the article, regardless of who contributed individual segments of it. - Haukur Þorgeirsson 21:26, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

she doesn't know that.

I do now. --Hollow Wilerding 03:04, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

From the time I first heard this song, I felt "hollaback girl" was a reference to the automatons in the stands at a high school sporting event. Gwen's declaration of "I ain't no hollaback girl" is a shout out to those of us who refused to give up the "s" when those vapid, bubbly, perfect jumping girls demanded that we do so. Paralyzed by shyness or defiance - that's our shit. shsq

Could you provide a source or reference for your claim? —Hollow Wilerding 21:13, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Yet another Gwen Stefani Commercial Advertisement?

Fresh from the featured advert for "Cool" we now have yet another free advert masquerading as a legitimate Wiki article. Please explain to me why you feel that in 100 years time someone will type the words "Hollaback Girl" into our search engine expecting to see this article? Yes she should have a bio, but a track by track uncritical puff piece for each song? No. --HasBeen 14:17, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

You could say the same even for the Beatles. Their songs aren't going to be known in one-hundred years. Listen, we're attempting to build an encyclopedia. A modern-day encyclopedia. One-hundred years from now? You're getting ahead of yourself, my friend. Far ahead of the encyclopedia, and yourself. —Hollow Wilerding 00:52, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
  • I think it would be wonderful if wikipedia had articles explaining all the popular songs of the early 20th century. Kappa 01:19, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Yes, it's quite sad that Category:Songs by Cole Porter, all articles of poor quality, contains less pages than Category:Nickelback songs or Category:Gwen Stefani singles. I don't think the solution is to reduce the amount of modern songs, but to put more work into the older ones. It's a systematic bias issue that Wikipedia has. Leithp (talk) 08:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Absolutely. We should be thankful we are writing all this stuff now, when it's current—in 100 years it would be very difficult to write so much about this song, but now it's comparatively easy. Everyking 09:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
On looking into the Cole Porter thing further, I found that the category wasn't fully populated, which I've now done. My point still stands, I think...... Leithp (talk) 10:36, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Without unnecessarily dismissing the positive points raised, may I draw your attention back to the initial question of longevity for this article, as per the Wiki-inclusion guidelines? Do you honestly believe that in the year 2105 that a Wikipaedia user is going to type in the words “Hollaback Girl” expecting to find this ephemeral, predominantly MTV-specific pop song?

Has it made such an impact on the collective imagination e.g. “Happy Birthday”, “New York, New York”, that our grandchildren’s grandchildren will be singing it?

Due to the very nature of mass marketing, articles about commercial pop songs are very easy to verify. Does this by itself validate their inclusion in this project?

This sort of grass roots advertising is often effectively undetectable, what with zombie e-teamers running all over the web. Interesting the speed at which you all rebuked my enquiry, as if to illustrate this last point… --HasBeen 11:12, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

In 2105, no, I doubt there will be any significant interest in "Hollaback Girl". But this article will (hopefully!) still exist for those who are interested in researching the subject. There are plenty of people who are interested in the music of 100 years ago and research it. And it's a valid historical study—although of course elitists back then trashed the music of that time, too, and wouldn't have thought anybody in 2005 would care about it. People reading about past music today would be very grateful if in 1905 they had had the technology to record that info as well as we are doing today. Everyking 11:28, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
In any case, how on earth can you judge what people will be interested in 100 years from now? People are interested in Hollaback Girl now and if that changes a few years from now the article can be reviewed then. Your other points seem relate to what you think of the quality of the article. So, to use a wiki-cliche, fix it! Leithp (talk) 11:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your replies. How is a cut-and-paste from a press release going to aid our futuristic researcher? Why would they wiki, when they could search the sources? I'm not arguing that this information shouldn't be included in the project, just that it should be put where it belongs, into the bio of the musician concerned. That is where people will search, that is where this information should sit. To generate a stand-alone for every corporate single release is to extend the hold of mass marketing into yet another public domain. Please see the entry at the water pump. --HasBeen 10:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Uh, do you have any idea how large that would make the bio articles? Also, these songs are notable topics in their own right, not mere details in an artist's biography. Everyking 11:23, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
  • The limiting size of a single, all-inclusive article would ensure that marketing pitches like this one for GS would be minimised. It would ensure that encyclopaedic information is kept, and advertising junk like this gets canned. Join me here Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) under Protecting Wikipedia from commercial advertising... --HasBeen 09:52, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Issue with quality

Since I halted from editing this article last week, why does it appear to have declined in quality? We don't require another Kelly Clarkson on Wikipedia. —Hollow Wilerding 00:38, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey Hollow! I've returned to Wikipedia, but only for a short amount of time!
Actually, I myself would like to know about this article's decline as well... --Winnermario 22:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Shit

I personally don't think that word "s**t" should be used in this article. There are several children on the site, me being one of them. Besides, I didn't even realize that that word was in the song in the first place. Steveo2

The word is used so frequently in the song that I'm shocked you didn't realize it... well, generally speaking, we don't like to censor things much. We sometimes draw a line when it comes to explicit images, but this is just a word. Everyking 17:14, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
It's just a word; no harm no foul. --Madchester 01:03, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
OK. I understand. (By the way, I thought it said, "It's bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S.) Steveo2 10:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
This is probably because you've been listening to the watered-down MTV or radio-friendly versions. Barneyboo 11:06, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia doesn't censor profanity. Free speech is teh secks. :P --Kross 13:54, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

Regardless of whether it should be used in the article or not, it's poorly placed and doesn't fit into any current part of the article. Maybe a "trivia" section would be better. I've removed it. Dave 19:39, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I think it should cause that's part of the music.

Wikipedia is not censored for the protection of minors.--Fallout boy 21:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of "shit" in the song

What is missing from this article is any discussion about the use of the word "shit" in the lyrics, which required a censored version be released, but otherwise seems to have passed by a lot of people without controversy. I even heard an uncensored version on an AM radio station not long ago, which surprised me. Is this song considered a bit of a milestone in the acceptance of language in popular music? Ten years ago, it would have been banned left, right, and center. I think this should be referenced in some way, but am not familiar enough with the song to do so myself. 23skidoo 13:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

If a child has never heard the word shit, they shouldn't be on the internet at all. I doubt you could find a four year old who hadn't heard it.

The issue is its gratuitiousness, i.e.: is it really necessary that the word, so often? Can another word be used to the same effect? A regulator may allow swearing, nudity, violence etc., but not say swearing for the sake of swearing. Kransky 14:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Masia One version

Should it be noted that Canadian rapper Masia One did some sort of version of this song on her Mississauga Remixes mini-album? The song is called "Ballin Wack", and it almost sounds like a mix between an anthem and a hate shout-out to Stefani. I can't be sure on the second part though; there are plenty of ways to overanalyze songs. ~ Wapiko 21:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I think it's weird that Gwen has never mentioned the song's meaning. Surely she had people asking her in interviews about that? So did she evade the questions? I find it hard to believe no interviewer would ask that. Everyking 05:29, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hollenbeck

Hollenbeck is a police district station and city park in East Los Angeles. The young women from this area have been referred to alternately as "Hollenbeck girls" and "Hollaback girls" long before the Gwen Stefani song. Is this a coincidence or is it the inspiration for the lyric?

[edit] urban dictionary

I removed a sentence regarding urban dictionary from the main article, and its reference link. Urban dictionary is not any sort of reliable source. --Xyzzyplugh 08:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Content

Could someone please add a paragraph on the song's content--or can I just not find it? Something similar to the description of the music video. In other words--the article is huge, but there's not a tiny bit of information on what the song is about.

[edit] Weird Video

I saw this video the other day that had this song playing, and it was some girl with like a banana coming out of her ass and another girl tried to catch it with her mouth. It's like a sort of shock-site, could anyone give me the link? P.S. - No, this is not a joke. It exists, and no, before you start thinking it, I don't get aroused by it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.111.115.80 (talk) 00:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Category:Diss songs (3rd Opinion)

I added Hollaback Girl to Category:Diss songs, and it was later removed. A diss song is "a song which has the main purpose of verbally assaulting and insulting a person or a group of people"; this song certainly seems to be insulting Courtney Love. Though it's primarily rap songs, it contains Sweet Home Alabama (song) and How Do You Sleep?. My understanding is that though many diss songs are the product of hip hop rivalries, this is not a requirement to be considered a diss song. ShadowHalo 05:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

After reviewing this article and the Diss song article, I see no reason why Hollaback Girl should not be included in Category:Diss songs. In forming this opinion, I did not consider whether non-hip-hop songs should be excluded from the category (an argument that I would probably have found unconvincing anyway) because Hollaback Girl was ranked 8 on the U.S. hip-hop charts. --Selket Talk 19:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA status

One of the better GA noms I've seen in awhile. I find nothing to keep it from GA, but you could expand the Music and Structure section. Rlevse 14:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meaning

OK, the article does a good job of explaining the inspiration and then dismisses the OC Weekly interpretation (and by extension, others), but fails to actually pin down what Stefani herself seemed to think it meant, or to assert that there is no specific meaning. It actually reads almost as though a paragraph has been dropped. Minor nit, congratulations overall. --Dhartung | Talk 07:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

The song doesn't have a specific meaning (because it's bad like that), but the overall theme is that a "hollaback girl" would respond to Love's comment with more rumors and talk. Stefani, however, is essentially challenging Love to a fight (WTF, they're both grown women). Anyway, I've added this interpretation (referenced). That's the generally accepted meaning since, from the article, "Stefani never disclosed the song title's meaning". Would it be better if it was changed from that to something like "Stefani never disclosed the song's specific meaning" or something like that? ShadowHalo 21:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
I'd say that at least half of pop songs have next to or no meaning. Some producer guys probably sit together and write whatever that rhymes with 'baby' and 'you' and then make a catchy chorus. Add some synthesisers, and you've got a hit. lol But I agree with ShadowHalo.Nukleoptra 20:20, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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