Template talk:Hndis

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[edit] Usage

• Use {{hndis}} instead of {{disambig}} to add both Category:Lists of ambiguous human names and Category:Disambiguation.
• When the disambiguation page lists both human name entries and other entries, do not use the {{hndis}} template. Instead, add [[Category:Lists of ambiguous human names]] after the {{disambig}} template.
• To sort the entries in Category:Lists of ambiguous human names by lastname, add a sortkey as follows:

  {{hndis|name=sortkey}}

  or:

  {{hndis|sortkey}}

• Sample for Max Weber (disambiguation):

  {{hndis|name=Weber, Max}}

  or:

  {{hndis|Weber, Max}}

Contents 1 Usage 2 A little help... 3 Category 4 Template 5 Remove cat:dabs from the templates 6 Why? 7 "Human name?" 8 "Clone" wording stinks.

[edit] A little help...

Can someone point me to the discussion about this template being redirected? Thanks in advance — Bellhalla 07:44, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_%28disambiguation_pages%29/Disambiguation_subcategories Tedernst | talk 16:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I have reverted. That edit is jumping the gun. The poll requires the template to be removed, not redirected. The WP:D requires that these entries be added to the Wikipedia:Multiple-place names list and each page changed to orphan the template before the template can be deleted, and I don't see how that can happen with a redirect. This is not following the proper procedure for TfD.

--William Allen Simpson 06:06, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, this template is deprecated. This means that it should no longer be used. Instead of this template you can use {{disambig}} and Category:Human name disambiguation. --Commander Keane 05:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category

This category was nominated for deletion or renaming on 2006 March 16. The result of the discussion was keep.

As the category is being kept, we should keep this template as well. It's a simple way to add the category. Besides, as long as the template is not being deleted as per TfD, there isn't really a reason to not use it. -- User:Docu

The preceding undated comment was made 03:00, March 25, 2006 by Docu. Chris the speller 22:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I for one am very glad that this template (and the associated category) were not deleted. They make a very useful pair in adding clarity to disambiguation pages. --BrownHairedGirl (talk • contribs) 14:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template

This template was considered for deletion on 2006 March 25. The result of the discussion was keep.

[edit] Remove cat:dabs from the templates

We should remove cat:dabs from the template, imho, as it's a supercat of cat:people-dabs. In general (and here), it's not good to have the same page (here, many pages) in both a supercat and a subcat.—msh210℠ 20:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

In general no, but in this case, I think it's preferable to keep it in there. It facilitates identifying all disambiguation pages and it isn't really a problem for Category:Disambiguation to have them in there as well. -- User:Docu

[edit] Why?

I question the benefit of assigning categories to disambiguation pages. Isn't it conceivable that a band could form with the name Greg Ellis (but no members so named) thus making the template obsolete? - BalthCat 19:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Human name?"

Why the awkward term "human name"? All names are used by humans. Perhaps if we were space aliens, we could use this term to refer to names adopted by those humans over there on Earth.

Since it links to personal name, I will change the text. —Michael Z. 2006-11-06 21:05 Z

This human name article is a disambiguation page — a list of pages that might otherwise share the same title, which is a person's or persons' name. If an article link referred you here, you might want to go back and fix it to point directly to the intended page.

Come to think of it, this is not so well written overall.

• This "human name article" is not an article at all: it is a disambiguation page
• "Person's or persons' name" is needlessly redundant
• It is not quite consistent with the text of template:disambig

Any objections to change it to the following?

Yes, it's almost identical to template:disambig. But why make changes to that text which serve no purpose? Why confusingly mix the phrases "human name" and "person's or persons' name"? —Michael Z. 2006-11-06 21:12 Z

[edit] "Clone" wording stinks.

It is horribly annoying to have to go into edit mode to see if the disambig is the correct one ! ! ! It makes it VERY inconvenient to change disams that are not already changed... so much for "easy improvement" in wikipedia. Not going to change it because I don't feel like dealing with the argument / edit war that will result. Zotel - the Stub Maker 23:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

So someone didn't think of that. There's really no need to ooze your frustration all over the page just to make the point. —Michael Z. 2006-11-06 23:42 Z