Talk:HMS Affray (P421)

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Could anyone help me insert a photo of HMS Affray? I am unsure of the copyright situation re same. (Khan 09:40, 19 January 2006 (UTC))

If someone could verify this image is ok to ass to the HMS Affray article I would be very grateful . . . http://www.navyphotos.co.uk/afry1b.jpg (Khan 02:18, 28 January 2006 (UTC))

Probably the best thing to do would be to e-mail the navyphotos.co.uk site and ask what their position is on copyright and/or whether they would mind Wikipedia using it. I seem to remember some images from that site being tagged for removal but I can't recall why. If the image was produced by the UK Government before 1956 then it should be public domain by now and usable anyway.

If not and there are problems, then the image should still be usable under 'fair use' but it will need reducing in size and degrading somewhat - if this needs doing then leave a message on my talk page and I'll edit the Affray image and upload it - unless of course, you want to do it yourself. Ian Dunster 00:33, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Image 2 Motto 3 Dry Inside? 4 Suez Crisis 5 YAFFRA

[edit] Image

I would be very grateful if you could do this! I have attempted to do this before on another article & encountered all sorts of problems. I think the part under the crew list needs to be re-aligned as well, & I am not an experienced enough wikipedian to do so.(Khan 01:26, 31 January 2006 (UTC))

I have added the image to the page under 'fair use'. I haven't done anything about the white glare in the picture as I'm not sure if it's a photographic flaw or the submarine's diesels starting. I'll see what I can find out about the formatting problem. Ian Dunster 12:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motto

I thought I knew everthing about this sub, not its motto. Anyone? (Khanada 09:53, 18 February 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Dry Inside?

I have stated that HMS Affray is possibly still partly dry inside, I have heard conflicting opinions by two experts. Does anyone have any idea if after almost 60 years it would be fully flooded or not?(Khanada 04:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Suez Crisis

At the time Affray went missing it was such big news in Britain it relegated the Suez Crisis to page two of the national newspapers.

Surely the Suez business occured five years later, or am I missing some early detail of it? Bastie 05:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Interesting, you are correct, I never thought about the actual date, I copied this information from a book I read, but there are other links on the net whick indicate same. I could not find any other event involving suez in 1951, I will have to do more research re same. (Khanada 08:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC))

What did happen on the same date was Iran took over the Anglo-Iranian oil company and for some reason this is actually considered the begining of the Suez crisis which culminated in the events of 56.(Khanada 13:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] YAFFRA

"YAFFRA" is not "Affray" backwards. --68.49.236.45 21:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)