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[edit] Hitler (disambiguation)
A while back someone had the brilliant idea of changing Hitler from a redirect to a disambiguation page, because, let's face it, when someone mentions "Hitler" it's not quite clear who they're talking about. I moved this to Hitler (disambiguation) and restored the redirect, but now we have this orphan, which seems just useless. Everyone on this page (except Adolf Lu Hitler Marak, who probably doesn't even belong) is already on the Adolf Hitler page. Even a disambig notice at the top of Adolf's page seemed stupid, so this has been sitting here, basically unsearchable. Time to delete it. -R. fiend 09:03, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep and add a link to it from the main Adolf Hitler page. The dab page is harmless. That Indian politician could be notable in that country. --Gene s 09:21, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Delete, I don't think this page is really necessary. If necessary at all, a reference to Adolf Lu Hitler Marak can be added to the main Hitler article, and we have the same effect with a lot less clutter -- Ferkelparade π 10:57, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- To the page Adolf Hitler I prepended a pointer to Hitler (disambiguation). Anthony Appleyard 11:05, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Redirect to A.H., there is no ambiguity about the name or what it refers to. Most people with the surname Hitler changed it over fifty years ago. Wyss 12:37, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)- Er... are you sure about redirecting? Nothing should link to a disambig page, so having it redirect to a regular page doesn't seem like a good idea. It's usually the other way around. JRM 14:03, 2004 Dec 10 (UTC)
- Thanks JRM, typing Hitler into the search box already takes the user directly to AH's page, so I vote Delete Wyss 14:13, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. There clearly are Wikipedia articles on more than one "Hitler". Since one is clearly more notable than the others it makes sense that Hitler should redirect there, but a disambig page should still exist, per Wikipedia policy. --L33tminion | (talk) 13:30, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Gene and L33tminion have points, but it's worth nothing that the other Hitlers are notable relatives of Adolf, and they're all mentioned in the "Hitler's family" section. That's not worth a separate disambig page if it's linked to from Adolf Hitler.
As for the aforementioned Adolf Lu Hitler Marak, from that page: "It may be noted that his name is not particularly curious within Meghalaya, where other local politicians are named Lenin R. Marak, Stalin L. Nangmin, Frankenstein W. Momin, or Tony Curtis Lyngdoh." Are those worth disambigs too? Rotten precedent. If we're going to quote policy, there's always Wikipedia:Disambiguation: "Disambiguation in Wikipedia and Wikimedia is the process of resolving the conflict that occurs when articles about two or more different topics have the same natural title." (Emphasis in the original.) Is "Hitler" or even "Adolf Hitler" a natural title for Adolf Lu Hitler Marak? No. My bold conjecture is that people searching for or linking to Hitler do not want Adolf Lu Hitler Marak and should look in Adolf Hitler for his relatives, and hence the disambig is too pointless to exist. JRM 14:03, 2004 Dec 10 (UTC) - I saw keep. A while back I wrote an article on Everything2 about the name 'Hitler' (rather than the person), and I'm sure there's space for something similar here. A 'panga' is a type of bladed weapon popular in Kenya; Mel Gibson's first name is not short for anything, it is just 'Mel'. -81.179.194.227 15:22, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, doesn't seem to do any harm, although I suppose it is kind of useless. Certainly Hitler should redirect to Adolf's article, but this can still exist, can't it? The note shouldn't be at the top of the page, though. Maybe at the bottom if really necessary. I'd actually like to see an article about the Hitler name itself, which I think would be interesting, and then that could be linked here in addition to the individuals. Everyking 04:50, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Re that last: absolutely. If 81.179.194.227 could put the material here, that would be wonderful. JRM 13:34, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC)
- Sorry, forgot to log in (again). The article is here [1], although too shallow and self-indulgent to be ported over directly. 'Hitler' is an interesting name because, unlike the names of many other famous leaders of the 20th Century, it is (a) extremely well-known, to the extent that 'Adolf' is almost redundant (b) not a common name but (c) not a fabricated 'nom de guerre', either. General opinion seems to be that it's a corruption of 'Hutter' and 'Hiedler', and that Adolf Hitler and has family were the only ones who used it. -Ashley Pomeroy 16:26, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- There is lots of interesting information in there that would make a nice addition to Wikipedia, but I think it would be best put on Hitler (name) or something similar (with a link at the top or (better) in a section of Adolf Hitler). This would also be the place to mention Adolf Lu Hitler Marak. However: I just don't think the disambig page should stay. There is nothing to disambiguate here. I'm all for keeping the information, I'm all for a new Hitler (name), but certainly not Hitler (disambiguation). That's just silly. Disambig pages are not indexes. People who are saying that it doesn't hurt are, IMO, missing the point: this sets a bad precedent for disambiguation pages; we have enough confusion on them as it is. This page should not stay, because it encourages people to add information at a place where nobody will think to look for it. And that does hurt. JRM 17:11, 2004 Dec 11 (UTC)
- Keep. --JuntungWu 14:33, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- keep Anthony's approach seems correct to me Wolfman 05:33, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. The Recycling Troll 21:15, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. As long as there are multiple pages that refer to someone/something named 'Hitler', I think it should be kept. Somebody in the WWW 06:52, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] "Little Hitler"
Is there any source for the court ruling that made "Little Hitler" an illegal insult? I'm going to remove the section unless someone can source it. Jdavidb 18:35, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] This is a disambig page
This is a disambiguation page, not a list of articles to do with Hitler. See WP:DAB and WP:MOSDAB for further information. Downfall (film) should not be listed here because it is unlikely that someone will type in "Hitler" when trying to specifically find that film article. Thanks/wangi 12:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pre-1889
Is there any record of any people of merit being named Hitler before 1889? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nog64 (talk • contribs) 23:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC).
