Talk:History of the Seventh-day Adventist Church

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WikiProject Seventh-day Adventist Church To-do: edit  Expand "Glacier View Controversy" section, to include more background, history, theological issues, and details of the Glacier View meeting itself Add to "Adventist Responses to Criticisms" section, ideally with material from Adventist scholars etc.

What the...? There are many, many more incidents pertaining to the history of the Seventh-Day Adventist church which aren't included, however this biological study is included. For example, the rise of many doctrines in the church and the Sanitarium are not even mentioned. I'm deleting the last section unless someone can tell me how it is more significant than other significant events not even mentioned. I feel as if some disgruntled ex-SDA has placed this here (not uncommon on Wiki!)m0rt

Contents 1 Nice job on the page 2 Progress Meter 3 More 4 Adventists Affirm? 5 Removed edits from page 6 Helpful reference 7 Breakaway movements

[edit] Nice job on the page

Great work! Now to add the experiments on SDA! Three cheersTravb 16:50, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Progress Meter

Hi! This section will serve as a progress marker for each of the sections of the article. Feel free to act out any of the tasks listed here, they are all in much need of doing. Please ask me if you have any questions! MyNameIsNotBob

Part 1: Early Beginnings

[edit] More

Well, this is a good start for the article, but there is a whole lot more to the History of the Adventist Church than this. All we have right now is "Early Beginnings." Should we take most everything from the history section of the Seventh-day Adventist Church page? --Cromwellt|Talk 20:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I actually started this article with the intention that it would, on its own become more comprehensive than the main page article. Then the history section on the Seventh-day Adventist Church page would thus become a summary of the content here. Unfortunately I've kind of neglected this page... Guess its time to give it some more thought. MyNameIsNotBob 21:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adventists Affirm?

Is it valid to reference Adventists Affirm? What I mean is, given the far-right position of the authors that make up the unoffical publication Adventists Affirm, isn't there a much better source. If I were preparing an essary for submission in an academic setting, I would not reference Adventist Affirm for factual information. In wikipedia talk: I think it is POV. -Fermion 09:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I can understand problems may be had with Adventist Affirm, however I chose the article because of the author, P. Gerard Damsteegt, associate professor of church history at Andrews University and author of Foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Message and Mission. So yes, the publication my be POV, but the author holds enough credence to class the reference otherwise. MyNameIsNotBob 10:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed edits from page

The following edits do not seem to fit on the page in their current pose, not to mention they were in the references section. They should be referenced, book sales links should be removed and they should be put in the appropriate sections:

EG White stated that it was not in fact about the Law & Galatians. But rather about Righteousness By Faith.

When Waggoner spoke, she said 'Amen Brethren, there is great light here'. But when someone got up to give their rebuttal, she walked out.

White supported the message as given by Waggoner and Jones, describing it some 300 times as "The Loud Cry"; "The Third Angel's Message" and as the "Most Precious" message, in various letters to others. These can be seen in "1888 Materials" by EG White, published by the the Ellen G White Estate. No where else in her writings did she describe anything else as "The Loud Cry". She said that the message had been rejected "in a great degree".

She said that 'The Lord could have come by now, had it not been for the brethren in Battle Creek rejecting the message'. She said that the 2nd coming would be delayed, that 'we might have to wait many more years'; her son said that on her deathbed she expressed the hope that her church might repent and accept the message.

E G White's "1888 Materials" can be purchased from http://www.1888msc.org/sales/books/

Ansell 12:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helpful reference

What is Adventist in Adventism? An excerpt from A Search For Identity by George Knight. This looks like a good summary of the development of Adventist beliefs, a perfect reference for this page. George Knight is one of the church's best historians. -Colin MacLaurin 22:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Breakaway movements

Found this on a website about breakaway movements:

"First there was the Messenger Party, then the Seventh-day Adventist Reform Movement. In short order came the Shepherd's Rod. Herbert W. Armstrong launched the Worldwide Church of God, then along came the Branch Davidians. Next, the Brinsmead group, the post-Glacier View “Gospel Fellowship” movement inspired by Desmond Ford's attack on the sanctuary doctrine, then the Steps to Life home church movement."

This site is certainly not NPOV, and I do not recommend it overall. However the list may be helpful to the page if good citations can be provided. Colin MacLaurin 02:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)