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Contents 1 Archives? 2 Merges 3 Operation Summer Rains 4 Addition to the Mandate & 1948 sections

[edit] Archives?

Where are the previous discussions from this page? --MZMcBride 01:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merges

All three of these articles seem to discuss the same things in varying degrees of detail. Let's merge all three of them under the name of "Arab-Israeli conflict." --GHcool 18:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. See talk page on Arab-Israeli conflict. --GHcool 03:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Operation Summer Rains

Does anyone else think Operation Summer Rains should be added to the history or is it just a part of the al-Aqsa Intifada? --GHcool 03:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Addition to the Mandate & 1948 sections

I am changing the following from the Mandate section:

The Jewish leadership (Yishuv) "adopted a policy of restraint (havlaga) and static defense in response to Arab attacks."[3]

to read:

Some of Jewish leadership (Yishuv) "adopted a policy of restraint (havlaga) and static defense in response to Arab attacks."[3] However, during this same period, the Irgun, led attacks on the Arab population in which more than 250 Arabs were killed.

Also, I've changed the following from the 1948 section:

The Arabs had rejected the plan while the Jews had accepted it. Arab militias had begun campaigns to control territory inside and outside the designated borders, and an open war between the two populations emerged.

to read:

By March of 1948 however, the US was actively seeking a UN approved trusteeship rather than immediate partition. The Jewish leadership rejected this. By now, both Jewish and Arab militias had begun campaigns to control territory inside and outside the designated borders, and an open war between the two populations emerged.

EllenS 02:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

EllenS 02:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Where do you get the figure of "more than 250 Arabs were killed?" In what time period was this? Certainly Begin wasn't responsible for this (assuming it can be proven it actually happened) because he didn't lead the Irgun until 1943.

And where did you get the info about the UN approved trusteeship that the Yishuv rejected? Its not even mentioned in The Continuum Political Encyclopedia of the Middle East. And what evidence do you have of the claim that "both Jewish and Arab militias had begun campaigns to control territory inside and outside the designated borders?" Please cite your sources. If there is no citation within one week, I reserve the right to revert that passage. --GHcool 03:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Added citations as well as corrected an inaccuracy regarding the Peel Commission (citation included). EllenS 19:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

And I clarified your Peel Commission correction. I hadn't know about the UN trusteeship proposal. I wonder if the Arabs accepted it ... --GHcool 20:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Can you please include a citation for this? Every documentary source I can find says the opposite: that the zionists ultimately rejected the Peel Commission proposal. EllenS 00:01, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I looked it up in the Continuum Encyclopedia and it appears that you are correct. I always assumed the Yishuv accepted the Peel Commission because they accepted the idea of partition (a big first step toward the two-state solution). --GHcool 06:49, 17 February 2007 (UTC)