Talk:History of hip hop music
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The first paragraph of the section on Hardcore does not reference the genre. It seems like it would be better suited for a page on East Coast hip hop, or New Jersey. ReverendG 17:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Why is this page marked as too long? I do think this is compact enogh --hydrox 21:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
k youre right--Urthogie 21:30, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Would like to see a ref to a mainstream printed publication referring to "rap" music. Was suprised the claim is that rap music was around in early 1970's. More suprised to see a mention of it in print [June 1971 Letters to Editor YIPL/TAP Magazine - http://artofhacking.com/tap/yipl/index.htm http://artofhacking.com/tap/yipl/YIPL0104.GIF ]
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[edit] To do
Still needs a lot more cleanup. Should be merged with Hip Hop's Diversification. Should also include some info from Alternative hip hop. Also could be updated from Hip hop music#history, or from old versions of itself. Still, it's definitely an improvement! Λυδαcιτγ 01:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd love to see some text about crunk and screw. The bling rap should have it's own section too. I would love to write some about it but I'm usally listening to mid 90s gangsta rap and some political rappers plus english is not my mother tongue.--84.217.147.44 00:47, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
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- Just saw that bling already have a section. Good, good.. Over and out. --84.217.147.44 00:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
The section on Southern hip hop needs to be expanded given the influence that that region had over hip hop in the last 10 years. Another option is to talk about the diversification of sites of emergent styles (South, St. Louis, Miami, etc.). --Saurav 10:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Unreferenced
I think the references for this article are its subarticles: Roots of hip hop, for example. I would rather have the unreferenced tags on them than here, since this is basically a summary of those articles. Λυδαcιτγ 02:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- Copied from User talk:Audacity. Λυδαcιτγ 04:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
The reason I tagged the article is because it refers to made up eras in hip hop music (i.e "Bling" era 1998–2001), that are subjective.
"If it wasn't for Kool Herc Hip Hop wouldn't have been created THAT'S BULLSHIT! I woulda created it ten years later..." - Sticky Fingaz
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Chubdub 20:53, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I totally agree that the chronological division here is highly subjective. It might make sense to just leave the years out of the headings, since the text is generally better than the heads.--Saurav 10:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:History_of_hip_hop_music" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jc213 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
[edit] No Silver Age,Hip-Hop Still Commercialized
There is no silver age yet,yes there have been decent albums put out like the blueprint,stillmatic,hip hop is dead,college dropout ect,
But as of 2007 rap is still dominated by mainstream rappers who only rap about cars,girls,money ect.
Since there has been only a small amount of non-commercialized rappers then i suggest we leave the "bling era" to 1998-Present —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jc213 (talk • contribs) 05:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
[edit] No Silver Age,Hip-Hop Still Commercialized
There is no silver age yet,yes there have been decent albums put out like the blueprint,stillmatic,hip hop is dead,college dropout ect,
But as of 2007 rap is still dominated by mainstream rappers who only rap about cars,girls,money ect.
Since there has been only a small amount of non-commercialized rappers then i suggest we leave the "bling era" to 1998-Present
Jc213 05:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Even though you say that the entire last two paragraphs of the "bling era" suggest otherwise. Hip-hop may very well be approaching a new era since three or four years ago albums like "College Dropout" and "Food and Liquor" would've been total failures, especially coming from new artists. They really don't make sense by themselves, so either they should be removed or something should be added to suggest that they are possible forerunners to a Silver Age of hip-hop.
