Talk:History of anime

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To-do list for History of anime: edit  · history  · watch  · refresh
  • Verify pre war anime and add info to available redlinks
  • Expand 1990s
  • Add information on the OVA.
  • Fix spelling mistakes, punctuation, and give article a more wikipedia-like "voice".
  • Mention, if appropriate:

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[edit] Re-Arrange by Eras

Instead of by decade, this article will be more readable by "era". How do we define an "era"? Well, it should be based on the status of anime at the time. For example, the anime explosion into Western markets during the 1990's would be an example of the beginning of one.

In doing so, anime's history would be more logical and readable. While needs fixing, the History of the Chicago Bears had to be re-arranged into era's instead of by decade. This is in due part of trends extending into more than one decade. KyuuA4 17:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

basically a good idea, if done well. I see some problems nontheless: the latest developements aren't easy to call by name. Since the 1960s japanese animation splited in various directions. Best discernable are full and partial animation but there's also experimental animation (it's called manga eiga AFAIK), and now the whole field of Anime-influenced animation came to be. which eras would you discern? --StalkerAT 20:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Indeed. It was far easier modifying the history of a sports team by era. For an art form, it certainly isn't so... definite. I suppose - it'll require laying out the development process (or timelines) of anime and the anime industry itself. Aside from an art form, anime is indeed a business, as companies profit from it. Along with that, significant changes have occured in the industry; to mark those changes, well, that'll be the tricky part. KyuuA4 16:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

I removed the previous text of Animation History: Japan (only a few days old) because it wasn't really relevant to the history of animation in Japan, although it might have had a place in an article about the popular perception of anime in the US. (Also, it looked as though it had been typed in from another source, possibly without permission.)

I'm not qualified to write a history of Japanese animation, but I listed a few important people and places in the hope of inspiring someone else.

-- BenRG 10:41, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Anime Conventions

These have been rather significant in the promotion of anime during the 1990's - particularly in the United States and eventually to the rest of the West. KyuuA4 17:01, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signficant thingies

I've cut the list of "significant whatevers" from the article. We shouldn't have a list, we should have actual text on these subjects. I'm leaving it here, though, to keep track of a few of the things we still need to do.

-℘yrop (talk) 01:37, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] To Do List

I need to put a to do list for other stuff added.

  • Expand pre war anime
  • Expand 1990s
  • Add information on the OVA.

--Neilworms 04:22, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I've added the todo template at the top of this talk page, and added your list to it. -℘yrop (talk) 05:00, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)

For 1990's, might as well make a cut off for the year 2000 and beyond in order to encapsulate the 1990's. KyuuA4 21:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The earliest known anime

I've got a bad feeling, that this might be a hoax of some sort. I didn't find any information at the provided link[1] and apart from that I don't think that a little animation (even if it's the first one on celluloid) has a great impact on the developement of animation in Japan, compared to the different versions of shadowplay. This is just on animation that has survived till now or has been restored to some degree. There should be many animations alike but they were destroyed, sold or just thrown away. -- User: StalkerAT 09.01.2006 12:00

For starters, the concept of animation began in the United States - or elsewhere. The origin of animation was not certainly in Japan. Therefore, the "first anime" arrived after the invention of animation. KyuuA4 21:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Someone needs to change the title to History of Anime in Japan since this has no info but Japan. Anime was first produced in Europe NOT Japan and that should be noted. Irishgt 23:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
The history stuff really takes time. El Apostle, in theory the very first animation ever is still a completely untouched article. I cannot tell you how wide open this stuff is if you got the research capacity to take it. This page is strictly Japanese stuff to my knowledge. I am not so sure there is enough info globally to put it all together yet. Benjwong 18:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Failing

Please add references. Highway Rainbow Sneakers 16:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

What the hell are you talking about? It has a references secton! -- Ned Scott 06:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
There are still some statements marked [citation needed], until that is fixed, this article can't be featured. At least, that's my opinion. Shinobu 15:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mushi Bankruptcy

"During the 1970s, the Japanese film market shrunk due to competition from television. Mushi Productions went bankrupt"

As far as I can tell, there was television in Japan before that. What changed? Also, note that this makes it seem like competition with television killed Mushi, while actually the resignment of Tezuka, who took all the rights to his works with him caused Mushi to go bankrupt. [2] Shinobu 10:11, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1970s experimentation

"An example of this experimentation is with Isao Takahata's 1974 television series Heidi."

Isn't this a bad example considering that Takahata did not come from Mushi productions, but from Toei, after the flop of Hols? Shinobu 10:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Influences of Cutey Honey and nudity?

What are the influences of Cutey Honey and nudity in anime? KyuuA4 16:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent history

Wikipedia's strenght is usually good coverage of up-to-date history, yet this article seems to have little to say about most recent animes. This should be fixed, at the very least we should have some lists of anime per season, or such.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  02:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean like a list? Notable anime TV series listed by year, Notable anime movies listed by year It's expanding. Benjwong 18:08, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New DVD release of 1920s silent anime

There seems to be a pretty significant and interesting DVD release coming up, here. Maybe it should be mentioned briefly. Esn 07:12, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. Very interesting if it's going to be released. But it can't be mentioned in the article as something other than a reference because it would be advertising (and inappropriate). This section lacks references anyway --StalkerAT 11:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
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