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[edit] Church of Cyprus
I'm not a historian--so this bit may be perfectly clear to anyone who is--but paragraphs 4 & 5 seem to conflict. Can someone explain the parts about the Church of Cyprus gaining independence? Thanks, --KQ 21:17 Sep 21, 2002 (UTC) ?
[edit] Phoenicians, Kition
There is no mention of Phoenician colonization, only Greek. Kition at least should be mentioned. D.E. Cottrell 09:51, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Khirokitia
There is also no mention of Khirokitia. It must be one of the oldest archeological sites in the island (around 6000BC). Anarxia 11:17, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Prehistory
The whole prehistory could do with a lot of expansion, maybe I`ll get around to do it... --Yak 15:45, Mar 2, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Amathus
I did not know how to fit in the ancient city of Amathus in the new version. Is it Mycenean or phoenician? --Yak 09:01, Apr 1, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Publius Claudius Pulcher
Publius Claudius Pulcher here is certainly not the same as in the Battle of Drepana. Any Romanist who can disambiguate this? --217.245.191.165 15:19, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
[edit] page reorg
This page is getting pretty long. Does it make sense to break it into three sub-sections, corresponding roughly to
- Prehistory
- Ancient history
- Modern history
We could keep the chronology section then give links to the new sections, maybe with a synopsis paragraph for each. Mmm 03:17, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
- good idea. Could we somehow link it like the history of France series? I was never very happy with the chronology section. It might be a good idea to incorporate some of the material into the text and reduce it to a chronological table with only short text - lots of work, of course
--Yak 10:31, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I have moved the prehistory to a separate page (Cyprus, prehistory) - a suggestion for the reorganization. Please comment! The flag would have to be replaced by a nice picture, haven't found anything yet, horned god of Enkomi, maybe, if there is a free picture. How do I get a more brownish red? Gow 17:38, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The Knights Templar
"He (Richard the Lionhearted) sold the island (Cyprus) to the Knights Templar, before they moved to Rhodes and finally to Malta."
The Knights Templar never moved away from Cyprus before their order was abolished in the early 1300's. The person who wrote this must have meant the Hospitallers, therefore I will change this matter.
[edit] summary for the main page
Someone should summarize the pre-1960 Cyprus history in a few paragraphs and add it to Cyprus#History. TIA. --Joy [shallot] 21:27, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
[edit] RE: summary for the main page
Pre-1571 Cyprus history added. Pro-Turkish historical inaccuracies corrected.
- re Cypro-Cretan period etc.: should mythology and history not be kept apart? I find this melange extremely annoying and uninformative
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- The Greeks believed it to be history and showed the graves and ancestor temples of these people to visitors. All the kings of Cyprus could trace their ancestry back to Teucer, Agapenor and Kinyras and even the bible mentions one of the Kinyradae, Kethimus (Kittim). From Pygmalion the chronology follows Ovid's Metamorphosis, Apollodorus Bibliothiki and Jerome's Chronicon. Prior to that it follows Plato (Symposium, Critias, Timeaus).
Greek sources partly moved to Ancient Greek History of Cyprus.
[edit] timeline
If hard-pressed, I will admit the National importance of 'The earliest wimemaking in the Mediterranean' though I think it should go to wine-making. But the first perfume-factory (reference?) definitely belongs into the main-article ancient history, not the time-line. The domesticated status of the Shillourokambos-cat is by no means sure. The fascinating thing about the PPNB-settlement is that they definitely introduced wild animals like fallow deer and even foxes, no small feat in small boats. If Argyrosargyrou is so important in firsts, maybe a list of "things first inventend in Cyprus" would do? Gow 17:30, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
- "This is 4,000 years old. Without a doubt, it is the oldest production site for perfume in the world," said Italian archeologist Maria Rosaria Belgiorno, team leader of a mission excavating the Pyrgos-Mavroraki site 55 miles southwest of Cyprus's capital Nicosia." Cyprus Mail Mar 6, 2005 / Scotsman 25 Feb 2005
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- Thanks! I'll shift the reference to MBA (misplaced it in EBA!) Gow 11:40, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Kissinger and the CIA
"1974: On 15 July the military government (junta) in Greece with the support of the CIA and American national security advisor Henry Kissinger orders a coup by the Greek National guard to overthrow Makarios who they see as being too pro-Russian."
This isn't a place for Hitchens' claims, though I personally don't know the extent of the accuracy of this statement. In any case the Greek junta had their own nationalist agenda for provoking the coup, so mentions of CIA support for said junta is out of place in this context. The junta's opposition to Makarios certainly wasn't Cold War-related stuff like "too pro-[Soviet]" J. Parker Stone 07:55, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Movement of Turkish Cypriots into Enclaves
This is virtually overlooked by everyone. Prior to 1963, the Turkish Cypriots owned over 30% of the land, by the time they had moved into enclaves they were in possession of just 3% of the land. It is false to say that they did this to deprive the Greek Cypriots of rent and labour. I have spoken to many people that moved into the enclaves and they all owned houses and land, and left behind the villages they had lived in for generations.
--Son of the Tundra 09:10, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- I've been doing some reading and what it seems that the reason for the enclaves is that the Turkish Cypriots were getting ready for partition from such an early time in Cyprus' independence, the reason why the TMT were insistant in uprooting their people out of their homes. If this is true, then why would the Greek population help in the process if this would have led to the exact opposite of what they wanted, Takism. And that is what happened, isn't it? You're thoughts and KNOWLEDGE please, not your emotions so we can finally fix this debated issue.
Fact: Turkish Cypriots lived in enclaves for 11 years, from 1963 to 1974.
Fact: The enclaves were embargoed by the Greek Cypriot authorities.
Fact: The UN attempted to provided food and medicine to the Enclaves.
It seems wholly reasonable to include these facts in the timeline.
--Son of the Tundra 08:23, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] referendum in cyprus/advantages
[edit] The name
I eliminated this section, as: a) the information does not seem deserving of its own section, at least not one at the very begining, b) the information is covered eslewhere under etymology, and c)the name of the section implies a discussion of the name of Cyprus, not that of copper. Israelite9191 22:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I have re included the name section because the name of the island is an integral part of its history, arguably if the island did not have rich copper ores it most probably would not gain the importance it did in the area at the specific time period. Aristovoul0s 14:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
