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Contents 1 Help 2 Pop Metal? 3 WTF?? 4 Too many errors 5 Biased much? 6 Style 7 Winkler 8 Why two of the same article? 9 Two of the same article, and fake site 10 Dead? 11 Request Temp Lock 12 Are vs. Is 13 Can this be locked?

[edit] Help

can someone please explain how Hinder is considered Rock? just listen to their latest single. (i am assuming it is there latest single, i am not sure of the name but i heard it on the local mix station). there was not one element to the song that made me think of rock. the instruments are barely adubile for gods sake. hinder is 100% pop. 

have you heard their entire album? its definitely rock. there is a pop-mix of better than me for the pop stations, but there is still the rock ballad version for the rock stations. plenty of bands do that.

well no i would never waste money and buy a hinder album, i dont really care if you like them, i just think that they would better be classified as a pop band. rock is nothing like hinder. listen to "lateralus" from Lateralus, or NIN's "Were in this together now" that is rock. hinder is pop rock at best

[edit] Pop Metal?

Pop Metal is Glam, so I believe Pop Metal should be changed to Glam... Even if they don't have the look.

• They aren't Hair Metal either. Heck, post-grunge is a style, not a genre. On top of that, any rock from the 90s is considered "grunge" so if it was made after the 90s, its "Post Grunge." Its all ridiculous. DJKingpin 04:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

this band is the pimp yaya

you better shut up you ghetto fag!!! haha Hinder id no longer a band, the lead signer has died. im not joking. He had killed him self or drug over dose

hi!!! im ~somebody!!!~ haha... i betcha dont know who though... huh??

• • Hunh. You'd've thought Firehouse, Trixter, and Nelson were Hair Metal, not grunge. lol

Look not all music is post grunge, Metal is gonna make a comeback I assure you. Not all rock was Grunge in the 90s. It was popular but doesnt mean everyone was on its awful bandwagon.

What are Hinder? people Post Grunge or Heavy Metal, cause I am fed up of seeing pseudo punk untalented school kids controlling music.

Hinder is a Modern Pop Metal/Post Grunge band. The get mis-classified, but how can you not hear any GNR or AC/DC in the band. If they're post-grunge, start calling GNR post-grunge. I think Post-Grunge is a dead genre. All the Post-Grunge bands of today are considered Metal anyways, Staind, Hidner, Stone Sour, Nickelback, etc. HINDER IS POP METAL! They are no different from Buckcherry, which is a Pop Metal band. Also, the guy who said not all rock in the 1990's was grunge is right. AiC and Soundgarden are considered Heavy Metal and I think that the same goes for Hinder, if you consider Hair Metal to be Metal.

That's an ignorant statement, Buckcherry is far from "Pop-Metal" They don't even sound remotely the same as Hinder or Nickelback...

Alice in Chains and Soundgarden are pretty much the epitomy of grunge. Whoever said they are heavy metal and not grunge doesn't know what they are talking about. --BennyD 14:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Staind, Stone Sour, Nickelback, etc. considered "metal"? On what planet? AiC and Soundgarden were not "metal" either. Not even close. Those statements are completely ignorant, and any article on a site that's meant to be factual should not call Hinder a "metal" band. Not "Pop metal" either, because there's no such thing. Hinder sounds exactly like every alternative rock band of the early-to-mid 90's, so they should be called alternative 128.237.250.77 05:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I am the guy who said not all bands in the 90s were grunge & its true. But the media fed grungers seem to have a problem with glam metal. Buckcherry are more of a 70's hard rock band with some glam metal in them. So they are not post grunge. The guy is right AIC & Soundgarden are very much Heavy Metal bands. Plus all the alt-metal bands post 98 have included metal in there sound as well as punk & grunge. Right now thankfully most bands are becoming metal in the main!

• Imagine for moment that it's Axl Rose singing the song, and it's not hard to hear a strong GNR influence there, with 00's Nickelback sound production, complete with cliched chord progressions a la Firehouse. The band would have been multi-millionaires had it been released in 1991. They still might end up that way, but it'll take them two years rather than two weeks to rake in the bling. Daskunt 18:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

We need to remember that Wikipedia is not a message board. This is not the area to discuss if Hinder "rawx/suxxx" Doc Strange 12:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

At least I see someone has a bit of a mind here. For the people who grew up in the 90's and after, I could understand why they would have a hard time seeing Hinder as a rock band. You don't really have a lot to compare it to. To really see it, you have to do as mentioned above, pull out the Guns & Roses, the Whitesnake, Van Halen, Queensryche and the like. If the only example of rock you have to compare them to is Nirvana and the rest of the Grunge bandwagon, you have a very misconstrued view of what rock really is.

[edit] WTF??

um...where the hell is the page??????

Mention feud with OK Go? 70.145.154.52 09:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too many errors

This article is littered with errors about Hinder. Not opinion based error but fact based.

[edit] Biased much?

Maybe I'm wrong but... "The band's second single, "Lips of an Angel", became a smash hit as the song made its way up the charts and the band received nationwide attention."

Is smash hit a technical term? If so how is a "smash hit" defined? This article definitely needs some editing from someone who has never heard of them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.102.159.206 (talk) 00:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

It is leading the iTunes charts. Thats a pretty good indicator. I actually changed "nationwide" to "international" in that sentence, which I felt as being more appropriate as they are also acheiving significant success on the Australian charts. AussieNickuss 12:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Style

The article reads like a fanzine not an encyclopedia. -- Beardo 22:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Winkler

lol liek i herd a rumer that austin winkle is henry winklers son lol the FONZ!!!1 eyyyyy! (thumps up)

[edit] Why two of the same article?

Am I the only person who's noticed the article was duplicated on the same page? Tried to delete the second one but was told i was blanking pages anmd committing vandalism. Little help? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.211.253.57 (talk) 16:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

I am watching it intently. Someone keeps adding the bottom part back on, so I am going to keep deleting it until they go away. DJKingpin 18:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two of the same article, and fake site

I noticed the double article problem, I've been cleaning that up as well. But also, on the links, someone keeps putting www.ilovelipsofanangel.com as a source.

[edit] Dead?

A few days ago, I read on this page that the lead singer of Hinder died late December/January ((I forget what I read)) of alcohol poisoning. Now I can't find it. Was the "he's dead" thing a lie, or was it real?

I heard he died of an OD Wikizilla ^{(Signme!)Talk} 20:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Austin didn't die, all you have to do is go look at any news page on the web. I constantly keep watch on this page to delete things like that when they come up. DJKingpin 22:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request Temp Lock

I have just deleted over 20 cases of "Hinder is Gay" vandalism. I would like to request a temporary lock on this page to stop future vandalism by the same ISP and retain neutralty on the musical act on this page. Doc Strange 22:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Are vs. Is

The band name "Hinder" is a collective term, therefore when using the name of the band in a descriptive manner, it should be said that "Hinder are a..." etc, rather than "Hinder is a..." etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.241.3.79 (talk) 07:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Can this be locked?

Every time I check Hinder's page, there is at least one comment about them being gay. Something probably should be done about this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merzie250 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC).