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[edit] Radio station cat sorting
Hi! Refering to this edit, is there some doctrine by which the first letter of the radio station sometimes gets omitted by category sorting and sometimes not? --zerofoks 09:11, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Whether or not to soft radio station callsign names by the first letter or the second letter is the subject of a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Radio Stations#Category sorting. I think that both types of sorting are going on. I look at the category listing and try to tell which type of sorting is prevalent. As a general rule, categories that are region, e.g., state or city, are sorted by the second letter, since otherwise all of the listings would begin with W or K. Categories that are global should, I think, be sorted by the first letter, since there would be lots of listings under many different letters. Categories that are national, i.e., U.S. tend to be a mixed bag. I guess a case could be made that my edit was unnecessary. "Category:College radio stations in the United States" seems to be generally sorted by first letter, so I tried to be consistent. However, "Category:Freeform radio stations" should be global in scope, so I would think that first letter sorting should be prevail, but in looking at the listings in the category, I see that they are consistently sorted by second letter. I hope that some rule is promulgated to settle this.--Hillrhpc 22:08, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I believe the naming format of WXYZ, KXYZ, CXY, etc. is mostly a North-American phenomenon. European radio stations do not have such a rigid naming system, see de:Kategorie:Hörfunksender. I believe the best approach would be to sort by second letter only if there are no articles about stations that have a different naming system in WXYZ, KXYZ, CXY, etc. in that specific category (as in Category:Freeform radio stations right now).
- I agree with your suggestion that categories should be sorted by the second letter only if all (or almost all) of the articles in the category have the same first letter. This will usually happen in regional U.S. radio station categories where all of the articles will usually start with a K or a W. Otherwise, the common rule should prevail that the articles are sorted by the first letter. --Hillrhpc 23:00, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe I am missing some important element here, though: What do the oft-repeated initials of the American radio station names signify? --zerofoks 22:35, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- All radio stations in the world have a call sign which consists of a series of letters and numerals. (See the article Call sign.) The first letter or two of the call sign designates what country the radio station is located in (K or W for the U.S.). In the U.S. the governmental authority required that all radio stations identify themselves on the air by call sign twice an hour (at :00 and :30). For this reason, most people began to identify radio stations by their call signs, and the call signs became trademarks. Names came later, but the call sign identification custom prevails.--Hillrhpc 23:00, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hey, that's cool to know, thanks. Elsewise, I think we are in agreement. --zerofoks 23:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- All radio stations in the world have a call sign which consists of a series of letters and numerals. (See the article Call sign.) The first letter or two of the call sign designates what country the radio station is located in (K or W for the U.S.). In the U.S. the governmental authority required that all radio stations identify themselves on the air by call sign twice an hour (at :00 and :30). For this reason, most people began to identify radio stations by their call signs, and the call signs became trademarks. Names came later, but the call sign identification custom prevails.--Hillrhpc 23:00, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I believe the naming format of WXYZ, KXYZ, CXY, etc. is mostly a North-American phenomenon. European radio stations do not have such a rigid naming system, see de:Kategorie:Hörfunksender. I believe the best approach would be to sort by second letter only if there are no articles about stations that have a different naming system in WXYZ, KXYZ, CXY, etc. in that specific category (as in Category:Freeform radio stations right now).
[edit] Freeform radio or Freeform (radio format)
While I am at it... Do you think you could help me figure out which of the above Lemmata would be the better one and should be kept? --zerofoks 04:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- I guess it goes to whether the term of art is "Freeform" or "Freeform radio." From reading the articles and the external links cited in the articles, it appears that the term used is almost always "freeform radio." The word "freeform" is hardly ever used by itself. Therefore, it think that the best article title would be "Freeform radio."
[edit] Categories
Hi. Thanks for all your contributions to the Cleveland broadcast media articles. I just wanted to point out that the category guidelines say that "an article should not be in both a category and its subcategory." Therefore, articles listed in Category:Radio stations in Cleveland should not also appear in Category:Radio stations in Ohio, except for unusual cases like WKSU. Thanks! - EurekaLott 09:28, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message. I noticed the guideline after I had put all the radio stations on the Ohio category, and I had it on my list to change them so that they are only in the Cleveland category. I will fix it soon.--Hillrhpc 17:37, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] WJER
You mentioned on your WJER edit that you think it needs to be split (and wikified, which I can do, now that I have become familiar with Wikipedia.). I am going to have to respectfully disagree. Although WJER is two stations, it's really one body. www.wjer.com has a logo on it showing WJER 1450 AM 101.7 FM. Local residents treat the two as one. However, I am not well-versed in the wikiguidelines for radio stations, so I will leave the decision up to you or someone with more experience. Miguel Cervantes 22:36, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- After looking at the station's website for more than a quick glance, I'm inclined to agree with you. I think both the AM and FM outlets should be in one article, at least until others raise some groundswell of opinion to the contrary. However, I did note one other problem when I looked at the station web site. It appears that you may have copied some of the article text wholesale from the web site. This is not good practice, and it may be a copyright violation. You can use the information on the web site for your article, but don't copy the wording.--Hillrhpc 15:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oh. You're right. I'm afraid WJER was one of the first articles I made, and I was less experienced with the ways of Wikipedia. I even smacked a copyright violation on a page a few days ago, and now I have the embarassing predicament of being mildly guilty of the same thing. I will make sure to clean up the page (Both wiki-fication and original materializing) over the weekend. Thanks for pointing that out. Miguel Cervantes 22:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Barnstar Awarded!!!
[edit] WJER...Again
I don't know what is going on with WJER. I don't listen to it during the summer. I will, however, give it a look. They might be getting ready to update the page. Who knows? Miguel Cervantes 16:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- This is interesting. I gave the page a look-see, and I found a few references to WJER FM. I think we should wait a week or two and see if anything happens.
- I drove past the WJER offices, and the sign still said WJER 101.7 FM 1450 AM. Granted, that may be due to laziness. I'll keep on keeping a look out. Miguel Cervantes 16:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Help researching info on MIT graduate Ed Seykota
--Trade2tradewell 20:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)I need help writing the article about Ed Seykota, I need help researching his time in MIT, I need access to MITs library. I want copies of his thesis, papers etc. I also need official documentation about his degrees at MIT. Please help.
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--Trade2tradewell 20:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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