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Should governments in developing countries promote adult higher education or should efforts be concentrated on the more youthful population and preparation of the adults for retirement?
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[edit] Durability of higher education
- - Occasionally, it is argued that higher education is no longer necessarly as it become obsolete soon after graduation. This observation is raised of a couple of reasons; - - * Industry changes are so fast these days that a particular know how is only relevant for a short time before it is obsoleted by the next fad. - * The Internet has made information so pervasive that one can understand and undertake most jobs that previously required training after a short on line search. - * Globalization has lead to a decreased emphasis on research as both governments and industries have pursued cost cuttting to the hilt. Employers therefore value an employees who can provide an narrow immediate skill than a broad knowledge but no specific skill. This is ironic in that most government leaders are trying to move their governments to information economy. For example, this is the primary goal for Lisbon Agenda. - * The observation may be driven by delusion as higher education no longer garantee employment as it used to be in the past. - * As governments have cut back on education spending, some higher education have baised their teaching material to a specific vendor in an attempt to secure funding. This however reduce the durability of awarded diploma as its validity is rigidly tied to a particular vendor. - - Despite these observations, higher education especially in universities is still important. Higher education, when well delivered, is supposed to educate the candidate how to acquire a necessary skill and why a specific way of dealing with a problem is superior to an alternative. This is possible as higher education allows one to face a problem from a holistic point of view. Higher education also helps fill information gap, which is very pervasive in skilled but uneducated employees.
Some relevant facts
- I am aware Britian, Canada and USA have cut their education budget substantially in the last 10 to 15 years
- China on the other hand have increased their education spending to a ridiculous level. I can't find it now, but I am very sure I saw an article on BBC that claimed China has over 700,000 government sponsored student in western universities. Thats on top of those they are training locally. On the article, bbc also commented how loyal the students are to their mother country China. I think the only other country that I can think of that have increased investment on education was *Venezuela* (sorry for the spelling)
Just some points that may looks really obvious some years to come, but can't currently be entered in wikipedia. Note, I completely understand why western countries trimmed their education budgets, but I can't help feeling they are misguided for putting too much of their future on IP given these facts. Just my two cents
[edit] Removed section "Catholic higher education"
I temporarily move the text below here. The subject deserves a discussion, possibly even in a separate article, but the particular text below has not found its proper context in the current state of this article. (This unsigned comment was from me --Yuzz 23:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC))
[edit] Catholic higher education
Sacred Heart University of Fairfield, Connecticut, was founded in 1963 by a group of laypersons with the leadership of the Most Reverend Walter W. Curtis, Bishop of Bridgeport, Connecticut. Sacred Heart is the first institution of Catholic higher education established to be administered by the laity.
[edit] Merger
I think the two articles should be merged. Post-secondary education defines itself as higher education in the article so it should be merged. --Noetic Sage 17:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
→Keep Post-secondary education is split into Further Education (FE) and Higher Education (HE). FE is GCE A-Level, Scottish Higher and other non undergraduate post-16 awards. HE is under- and post-graduate courses such as degrees and HNDs. The subjects are not the same. --Andy Hartley 12:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
→Keep There is a clear (legal) distinction between Further Education and Higher Education. The article could do with a re-write to make that a little more apparent. I agree with the above that it not appropriate to merge the articles. Jhamez84 01:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
→Keep Don't merge things just because one of them has the definition wrong! ;) Perhaps it's just that the post-secondary education article needs some work. – Kieran T (talk | contribs) 18:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No Merger
Post-secondary education could refer to any form of education after completing one's Secondary Education. This could be job training, certification (such as HVAC technician), vocational-technical, or Higher Education. While often used synonimously, they are not. Higher Education refers to a degree from a college or university. Elwood64151 18:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Don't merge I came here following a link on tertiary education, a term I was unfamiliar with. It was useful to have a short article explaining it. --Utahredrock 03:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Criticism?
Higher education could definitely have a criticism section, from multiple viewpoints. I know here in the US it's seen as a sad joke from people of all poitical persuasions. - MSTCrow 03:16, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- I believe you mean secondary education, not higher education. Higher education is one of the US's largest exports (three times the size of steel). Also one of the fastest growing (8% annually for the past decade). On the other hand, a high school diploma in the US is virtually worthless. Wikiant 12:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bad merge
There is a distinction between post-secondary education and higher education. Examine:
In many places outside the U.S., there is a notion of a level of education above compulsory secondary education but lower than university-level higher education. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) 00:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Federal Bureau of Investigation created the National Security Higher Education Advisory Board
While that section is interesting, I don't think it belongs on a general page about higher education around the globe. I think it should be relocated.
