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[edit] Population
I've based the population on the total for Highbury East (10,278) and Highbury West (11,681). Potentially I could have included Mildmay, which would boost the population to over 30,000, but Mildmay lies in N1 and is south / east of Highbury N5. Rellis1067 11:32, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- for info, London postcodes do not overlay london districts at all well (nor, for that matter, do council or ward boundaries!) thus any population estimates unless using Census data and summing the enumeration districts concerned (which are much smaller) will be a very loose approximation. Postcode N1 is also a problem dues to its size and multi-Borough nature. [[User:VampWillow|Vamp:Willow]] 11:40, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- On the whole this is true, but Highbury and N5 do overlay each other quite closely, so this could be the exception that proves the rule. Rellis1067 12:05, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Regarding Mildmay, right not to include it, as I have now given it its own page, though still a stub. The existing (orphaned actually) page for Newington Green described this as being the area, but it was not inclusive enough IMO to describe the whole Mildmay area, so this demoted to an open space entry. Not wholly happy with 'Mildmay' as I am not sure to what extent residents use the term these days, but I think it is the only viable title for the area - it certainly was never a part of Highbury or Canonbury. Adding it as a neighbour district on this page, too. Tarquin Binary 18:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- Nobody I ever talked to in Highbury/Islington ever mentioned Mildmay, not even the estate agents! Personally I would not regard it as a distinct entity. However, Islington Council use it and there is the Mildmay ward, and therefore there is census info for it. See the link to the census in References in the article. Rellis1067 21:51, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's why I'm not entirely happy about it. I can personally verify that back in the 70s and 80s 'Mildmay' was in some use, though not uniformly so (if you're not really sure of your area, you just tend to use the borough name). I certainly think you may be right about it falling into disuse, but I just do not think 'Newington Green' is an equivalent term. It's a tough one, frankly. I don't think that council wards are much guides, as these are pretty arbitrary, but if they offer some justification in this case, that's something. And I think it is possible to do a write up for 'Mildmay' that establishes its identity - in my mind the whole area, including the green does have a distinct 'feel' to it. Tarquin Binary 23:11, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- Later note. OK, I ditched Mildmay, redirected it to and placed a small entry on Newington Green page. The fact is I have an 1868 source that mentions Newington Green as a district, but does not refer to Mildmay at all. Tarquin Binary 08:07, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
- I think you've come to the right decision. What about your entry on the Highbury article saying that Mildmay is Southeast of Highbury? Are you going to remove that?Rellis1067 19:46, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
- Done. Thx for reminder. Will double-check tomorrow for other entries. Tarquin Binary 00:27, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's why I'm not entirely happy about it. I can personally verify that back in the 70s and 80s 'Mildmay' was in some use, though not uniformly so (if you're not really sure of your area, you just tend to use the borough name). I certainly think you may be right about it falling into disuse, but I just do not think 'Newington Green' is an equivalent term. It's a tough one, frankly. I don't think that council wards are much guides, as these are pretty arbitrary, but if they offer some justification in this case, that's something. And I think it is possible to do a write up for 'Mildmay' that establishes its identity - in my mind the whole area, including the green does have a distinct 'feel' to it. Tarquin Binary 23:11, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- Nobody I ever talked to in Highbury/Islington ever mentioned Mildmay, not even the estate agents! Personally I would not regard it as a distinct entity. However, Islington Council use it and there is the Mildmay ward, and therefore there is census info for it. See the link to the census in References in the article. Rellis1067 21:51, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- Regarding Mildmay, right not to include it, as I have now given it its own page, though still a stub. The existing (orphaned actually) page for Newington Green described this as being the area, but it was not inclusive enough IMO to describe the whole Mildmay area, so this demoted to an open space entry. Not wholly happy with 'Mildmay' as I am not sure to what extent residents use the term these days, but I think it is the only viable title for the area - it certainly was never a part of Highbury or Canonbury. Adding it as a neighbour district on this page, too. Tarquin Binary 18:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- On the whole this is true, but Highbury and N5 do overlay each other quite closely, so this could be the exception that proves the rule. Rellis1067 12:05, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Bias
Some of the language in the section marked doesn't seem to be very neutral - 'gentrification' and 'down market' don't seem to be very appropriate. Totallycrazyman 21:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
