User talk:Hibernian

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Djegan 10:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Technocracy

Hi, glad to see you on wikipedia. If we get some more people active here we will have to start up a wiki technocracy group.

Trfs 04:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Dublin Riots (25-02-06).JPG

Great image, has been renamed per your request. --Duk 01:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks.--Hibernian 02:38, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Wow, the image is fantastic! You must have some stories. . . Peace, – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 01:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good photo

I like the photo of the Dublin riot, but you seem to have spent more time on your user page info boxes than on Wikiepdia articles. Just my impression. AWM -- 68.122.118.161 13:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Federation Credit

About the Federation credit article, I agree it needs to be redone. I can't claim to be an expert on the topic, so I'm not sure I can contribute much more than what I said in its Talk page. Still, I can help you give it a go when I have time. Not just yet, though; I want to see to it when I have time to do it properly. Aridd 11:35, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Price systems

Actually, communism is not a price system; that's the whole point. Communism is based more or less on a gift economy, and certainly would not employ currency. I invite you to read anything written by any communist on the subject; you will find that I am correct. I would also highly doubt that communism is in any way better known than socialism. The communist movement is just a branch of the wider socialist movement, after all. -- Nikodemos 22:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok I assume the "Communism" you are talking about is "final state Communism", in that case you are correct that it is theorized to be a society without money (and I would assume not be categorized as a price system by Technocrats). However the Commonly understood meaning of the Word "Communism" is the System practiced by the Government of the Former USSR and that advocated by Communist Parties in the world today. That is what I and Technocracy are Talking about when we says Communism is a Price system, as those examples all involve Money.

You may say (and may be technically accurate in saying), that the USSR was a Socialist Country not a Communist one, however this will not be understood by most readers, and thus the Common meaning of the word should be used as per Wikipedia’s policy on naming.

So it should be clear what the sentence in the article is saying, that is that Technocracy is unlike any political ideology, the 2 main ideologies being listed as examples, i.e. Capitalism and Communism. You don't hear people talking about Capitalism vs. Socialism, they will always say Communism, even if that is not technically accurate it will be understood.

Anyway to reiterate people understand the term "Communism" to mean the "Socialist" system of the USSR, and that is the way it should be termed in the article.

--Hibernian 03:02, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

We actually have two separate articles for the two different understandings of the term "communism" on wikipedia: Communism, which is about "final state communism", and Communist state, which is about USSR-style social and economic systems. It's a useful way to avoid confusion. However, I disagree that "you don't hear people talking about Capitalism vs. Socialism". I do in fact hear that a lot, and I talk about it myself quite a bit. I think it largely depends on where you live, but overall socialism is more widely known and talked about than communism. -- Nikodemos 06:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Alright then how about editing it to...

The Technocratic movement aims to establish a [[socio-economic]] system known as '''technocracy''', which is based upon [[abundance (economics)|abundance]], as opposed to [[scarcity]]-based economic systems like [[capitalism]] and [[Communist state|Communism]].

Which will look like this...

"The Technocratic movement aims to establish a socio-economic system known as technocracy, which is based upon abundance, as opposed to scarcity-based economic systems like capitalism and Communism."

Or perhaps it should be rewritten to something like...

"The Technocratic movement aims to establish a socio-economic system known as technocracy, which is based upon abundance, as opposed to scarcity-based economic systems used in Capitalist and Communist states."

Would that satisfy you?

Also I don't really like some of your edits to the Urbanates Article I wrote, Thanks for eliminating the capitalization and standardizing spelling, but I think I'm going to rewrite some of those other edits as I don't think they are very useful.

--Hibernian 23:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for not replying sooner. Due to my current schedule, I can only spend time editing wikipedia once every few days. So there might be a delay in my replying to your messages or reacting to any edits you make. I do agree with your compromise, in a slightly modified form: "...[[scarcity]]-based economic systems like [[capitalism]] and the system used by [[Communist state]]s." I hope that will settle our dispute.

By the way, I want to mention that, although I am by no means a Technocrat myself, I do sympathise with some of the ideas and goals of Technocracy. So if you need my help in editing Technocracy-related articles, just ask. :) -- Nikodemos 02:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Dyslexic Wikipedians

Category:Dyslexic Wikipedians which you have included on your user page has been proposed for deletion you can comment at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Wikipedians by mental condition. --Salix alba (talk) 16:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Technocracy Movement

Hello! Thanks for your message, it is a clear rebuttal by a member which I have to take into account. I'm not really sure about the distinction he makes between "managing machines", and "engineers replacing politics" — as I understand it, engineers can replace politicians only insofar as politics become managing of machines & not anymore of humans — this, by the way, reminds Marx & Engels' "administration of things" which would replace politics... This is an interesting subject, which would need more time and analysis. In the time being, thanks for having provided an explanation! Regards, Tazmaniacs 15:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Ashmoo vandalism by Hilter

Thanks for that. I was actually aware but thought I'd leave it until her lost interest to save multiple reverts. Ashmoo 01:44, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology

Since you are interested in flags and emblems I would like to inform you that the WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology has just been created. Why not take a look? I hope you can join. Inge 20:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Irish Army

Hi,

Good work on the Irish Army page. I'm wondering if we need a seperate page for the History section, or perhaps for the UN missions alone? I'm interested in your opinion.

Jdorney 19:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Well thanks. Nice work on the history section BTW. Eh, I'm not sure if we need to split the article into a separate History or UN article, but I suppose it is very large now. I think I'll leave that decision up to you, if you think there is enough material to make separate articles then I suppose go for it. I think what I'd really like for the article would be a much more thorough analysis of the Irish Army's capabilities and doctrines. I wrote a small part about the army's weapons and equipment but because information is somewhat hard to find and because I'm not an expert on this, it's difficult to write satisfactorily. It would be good if we had someone who knows about the Army's Philosophy and Doctrine of War/Defence in detail. --Hibernian 22:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

That sounds good. I don't have any specialist military knowledge however, so I wouldn't be of any use in writing about their capabilities/doctrines. I'll leave the history where it is for now. Howevr, I can get my hands on quite a lot of info about the foundation of the army, the civil war era, the 1924 mutiny and the emergency, so I might start a history article based on that in the future.

Cheers, Jdorney 07:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userboxes

Thanks for fixing the boxes. It was only last night that I saw they'd been 'nicked' (Wikipedia:Userbox migration) Hope you found some good ones - Culnacréann 18:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Hibernian, Thanks for using the userbox that I created (the one about supporting environmental protection). I'm glad that there're people in the world who care about the environment just as much as I do. Currently I am doing double major (Biology and Environment Science) at University of Toronto. If you have any questions about environmental protection, please don't hesitate to contact me by wiki.
OhanaUnited 04:42, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Userboxes

I've been meaning to put a note on my page saying they are free to take, I just forget and/or get lazy. BTW, I don't think you have enough userboxes yet. Ungovernable Force^{Got something to say?} 05:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Similar Interests

I was just noting the huge number of similarities of beliefs and interest to myself in your page. Atheism, evolution, Isaac Asimove (who I quote lots in my politics books (see Bob_Fink. Also see "Role of the Drone in the Development of Harmony" [here http://www.greenwych.ca/drone.htm] -- Bob F. 65.255.225.36 12:07, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh hi there. Well it's always good to meet someone of similar interests, so Hi. So you're the guy on the Bob Fink page? Wow, Interesting stuff. I took a look through some of your Website a while ago (when I came across the Prehistoric music page), it's very interesting stuff, though a lot of it is a bit over my head. I do find the subject of Prehistoric music quite interesting, although because I don't have any Musical training, it can be very difficult to understand the Jargon. I really liked hearing the "Oldest Song" on your site, very Cool! You know, you should really get yourself a User account, instead of editing as an anonymous user, people don't really respect anons. Anyway, it's good to see people of your calibre contributing to Wikipedia. --Hibernian 13:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clondalkin Toastmasters

Why did you delete the Clondalkin Toastmasters Entry in the Local Clubs Section? You claim it's "Blatant Advertising". Toastmasters is a worldwide nonprofit educational organisation for the purpose of helping its members improve their communication, public speaking and leadership skills. Surely if you're deleting the Clondalkin Toastmasters Entry, you have just as much right to go and delete the "Toastmasters" Entry? I'm new to Wikipedia so maybe I'm missing something? I'm simply letting people know what it is we do. If there's an acceptable form of entry, let me know. Odhranobrien 09:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Odhranobrien, I removed that entry on Toastmasters because of the way it was written. I can understand that you're new to Wikipedia, but you've got to learn the rules of how things are written and included. Wiki is an Encyclopaedia not a place to put up advertising (even if you mean well), there can of-course be an entry about the Clondalkin Toastmasters club, but only if it's written in a neutral and factual way (i.e. in Encyclopaedic language). I'm going to go over and rewrite the entry to make it NPOV, it should then be acceptable. --Hibernian 15:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Grand stuff Hibernian - I was annoyed that it was taken out altogether. I see what you mean regarding how things need to be written. I got carried away in my role of Public Relations Guy for the Club :)

[edit] Image sizes

Please don't change image thumb sizes as you did in the X-38 article. This is contrary to the Manual of Style. By hard-coding the size, you force people to view them at that size. If you leave a size out, the user preferences then dictates the size that the image is seen at. Thanks. Akradecki 04:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I must say I've never heard of that rule before. I've seen hundreds of Pictures all across Wikipedia with specific sizes in the code, I assumed that was fine. I was under the impression the one should attempt to make the images as big as practically possible as displaying the detail of the pics was important. It seems strange to me that you advocating that there should only be thumbnail sized images on Wiki, if you think that then you're going to have to go change thousands of articles. Anyway I still don't see what was wrong with larger images on that page, I think they looked quite good and I was quite happy with my work there, oh well. --Hibernian 05:10, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] EU vote

Hi Hibernian, I noticed your comment on EU talk. I really appreciate it, because so far there are many deletionists trying to reduce what they can in the article. If your are still interested in keeping all of the pictures which make sense, then vote and keep an eye on it in talk. Would be great. all the best Lear 21 03:19, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hahaha

Umm, homophobia m ans a "fear of gays" which I have none of. All I am doing is pointing out the truth that it isn't natural and it is wrong. If you're not born with it, then it can be fixed and is down to your choice, and therefore it is wrong. Why are you so offended, are you unlucky enough to be gay ??? ahahahahaha. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.50.24.18 (talk) 05:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC).

You know, most people would just delete the moronic ravings of a Vandal from their Talk pages immediately, but I think I will keep it here for people to see just how Moronic you truly are. Let's begin, "hahaha", I don't see what you're laughing at, nothing particularly funny here (although it did give me a bit of laugh to see you actually wrote that), perhaps you thought of something funny to say but neglected to write it down...

Yes you are defiantly Homophobic, you may not fear gay people, but you fear a world in which Gay people have rights. It is by no means the "Truth" that Homosexuality is unnatural or wrong in any way actually. In-fact if you would take the time to research it, you would find that Homosexuality occurs in all animals (including humans) naturally. The explanation is not necessarily certain, but it's got to be somewhere in the genes, which By Definition makes it Natural (things don't get much more natural than stuff that's in our genes). "Wrong" is a moral standpoint that has no objectivity. Religion (which is I assume what you base your claim on) certainly provides no definitive morality, a few centuries ago Christianity saw Slavery as right, now it is wrong, see how easily morals change?

As for being gay myself, no (I'm sure you'll be relieved to hear) I'm not gay, if I was I'd have put it on my User page (read my page, I'm what you'd call a Left-wing Radical, I'm sure you and I would really hate each other). Though I do like defending gays and keeping Wiki clean of crap, and certainly enjoy getting rid of Homophobe Bull Shit. By the way I'm not offended what so ever, I don't get offended by Right-wing trolls on the Internet, LOL. When I saw your stuff I just though "Yawn. Another dumb Vandal, time to revert him. Why do these people waist there time? Don't they know they'll never get away with that kind of crap on Wikipedia? Oh well". So please don't give yourself any credit of Offending me, it would take a lot to do that. "ahahahahaha", wow a bizarre maniacal laugh when there is again nothing funny, perhaps the sign of a deranged mind?

And of-course I hope you know that I'll be watching everything you do on Wiki from now on and reverting any crap, that is, if the Admins don't just ban you very soon (which is very likely). I suggest you save yourself the trouble and just get off Wikipedia. Find another place to spill Garbage, perhaps the KKK's website would be more to your tastes.

I'd like to close with the interesting observation made by many, that Homophobes are often closet Homosexuals themselves, and that it is their insecurity of their sexuality that drives them to persecute others. I've always found that highly amusing. --Hibernian 06:33, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Now this is funny, you actually tried to Vandalise me, that's a first! I'll see it as a badge of honour, most people who tackle Vandals get their page done at one time or another, now I'm part of the club, Hehe. Man it just shows once again what a total Child you are, you discredit your whole cause and all those like you. And I didn't even have to revert it myself, thanks Persian Poet Gal! --Hibernian 06:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] We can't allow fair use images in user pages

You have fair use image Image:Murphy-CoA.jpg on your use page. We can't allow that because of Rule #9 in the fair use image rules. You will need to remove it.

BTW: It appears that one of your images (probably either a flag or a coat of arms), was replaced with a SVG image. You might want to upgrade in case the old image is deleted. Will (Talk - contribs) 07:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, are you sure that applies? The image is of the Medieval Coat of Arms of the Murphy Clan/Family, how can that be copyrighted? If so, who could possibly hold the copyright? I mean I used to draw that image in Primary school, I don't see how it can be anything but public domain. Maybe I could argue that, seeing as I am a Murphy, I can use it? What's the world coming to if a person doesn’t even have the right to display their own family heritage without getting sued?! --Hibernian 19:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use images aren't allowed in user pages

I found you are using the fair use images listed below on your user page. As per Rule #9 of the fair use image rules, you will need to remove those image. You can link to them, but not display them. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

If you don't understand why this is nessecary, you can ask the administrator Durin. He is better at explaining the problem than I am. You could also go to the policy portion of the village pump and ask there.

The list: Image:Murphy-CoA.jpg

I will probably check back in a day or so to verify the images were either removed or converted into links. If you need help making the change, let me know.

I should also note that the image Image:Dwik.PNG does not have a license. You might want to remove it until an appropriate free license is added. Will (Talk - contribs) 10:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You are me

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that you and I are the same person, except you are from Ireland, and I'm from the United States. Wikipedia brown 22:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, sorry for the cryptic message. It's uncanny how much we have in common. I guess it's bound to happen. By the way, I was on technocracy.ca for a while (as PeakToil) but haven't checked it recently. Also by the way, we should trade notes on what's cool (music, movies, subjects), since it appears that we have VERY similar interests. But feel free to ignore me if you have better stuff to do! Wikipedia brown 22:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Connolley using Wikipedia to blog?

~~One administrator thinks so. ~ UBeR 23:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)~~

Well, well, looks like you've got your way on this one. You know, you're a petty, petty man. --Hibernian 18:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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