Talk:Hesiod

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Contents 1 Pronunciation 2 Recent edits 3 Elliptical Redirects 4 The Shield of Heracles

[edit] Pronunciation

How do you pronounce his name? Can someone provide an IPA transcription? 128.12.32.199 22:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

The pronunciation is based on the pronunciation of the vowels eta and omikron. Thus, it is "Hey-si-awed." Sorry, I do not know IPA.

I've never heard anyone say "Hey-si-awed." I'll try to do an IPA transcription tomorrow (I've never done one in cyberspace before) but mine will be a transcription of "Hee-si-ud", so someone will probably revert it ... Andrew Dalby 21:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I pronounce it that way too; I don't think there's much regional variation in the pronunciation of Hesiod.

I do wonder if it's worth adding IPA pronunciations to classical articles, both because it increases the amount of stuff in parentheses in the beginning sentence, and because there are going to be some cases where pronunication differs between regional varieties of English. "Aeschylus" is one example. WP:PRON may be interesting. --Akhilleus (talk) 21:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edits

I'm skeptical of some of the anon's edits [1]; but without an agreed-upon authority, it's hard to know whether to revert. Stan 14:18, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I think they should stand, except that I need to look up the location of Anatolian Kyme/Cumae.

However, this article needs to say something about how current conceptions of Hesiod have changed as we understand more about oral poetry. Like Homeric poetry, Hesiodic poetry comes out of a tradition of orally composed poetry. Most classcial scholars still see Hesiod as a real historical individual, but there are definitely some (like Gregory Nagy) who see Hesiod as a legendary figure, and this should be reflected in the article. For one thing, if we view Hesiod and Homer as legendary figures we can stop worrying about when they lived and who was older than whom. Akhilleus 18:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elliptical Redirects

There are, understandably, several references to Hesiod's Works and Days in this article, however, all links redirect back to this page. I'm not entirely sure the best way to remedy this, however. Any advice left on my talk page would be appreciated, then I'll do it if no-one else wants to. Just thought I'd point it out! Holypeanut 18:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Cheers ! Yes, I noticed the persistent elliptical problem with the link to "Works and Days" in the Hesiod article pointing back to Hesiod ! The choices have always been clear: (1) write the article on Works and Days, (2) de-Wikify "Works and Days", (3) have "Works and Days" point to an external link to the text of "Works and Days", or (4) leave it oddly perplexing as it is ! I haven't had time to write the "Works and Days" article, or I would have ! I think it's preferable to have a real article on "Works and Days" but that's the best case. For the time being, it might be best to either point to the text or de-Wikify until the article can be written. Some might argue to the contrary. Leave it as a dead pointer as a reminder, not a loop back to the Hesiod article. This would involve simply changing the 'redirect' article. Theogony has a veritable article already. Just some thoughts for your query. Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 09:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Shield of Heracles

Here it states that The Shield of Heracles survives in its complete form. However it says on Shield of Heracles that it is but a fragment. Which is correct? 83.92.42.149 13:45, 12 September 2006 (UTC)