Talk:Heroes

This section is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was Redirect to Hero (disambiguation) and request full protection. - Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 21:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Summary of the issue

As detailed in this page's edit history, there is a dispute over whether this page should redirect to Heroes (TV series) or Hero (disambiguation). It originally redirected to Hero as the plural form of that word, but consensus was to redirect it to the dab page so that other uses—including, but not limited to the TV series—could be more easily found.

Secondarily, we need to decide and agree on whether this redirect should be fully protected from all edits or not. Full protection and consensus will avoid any further disputes. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey I: Redirection

• Question: Should the redirect page go to Hero, Heroes (TV series) or Hero (disambiguation)?

• Method: Add #'''Support''' ~~~~ to one of the following level two subsections. An additional, brief comment is optional.

[edit] Redirect to Hero

[edit] Redirect to Hero (disambiguation)

1. I support this -- thither 03:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC) - I'm a fan of the show and the show is popular, but I don't think it's particularly more important than the other concepts on the disambig page, and it's near the top anyways.
2. Support. To quote Ace, "The plural form and singular form are ... linked. Anyone who types in "heroes" could be looking for the "hero" article and/or other uses." --TorriTorri^{(Talk to me!)} 23:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
3. Support per above two reasons. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 03:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect to Heroes (TV series)

[edit] Survey II: Protection

Should the redirect page be protected or not? Add #'''Support''' or #'''Oppose''' and ~~~~ (an additional, brief comment is optional.)

1. Support seems to me that no matter what the result is, there are going to be people who keep on vandalizing it. --TorriTorri^{(Talk to me!)} 01:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
2. Support Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 00:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Add any additional comments here

Just an idea, maybe there should be a separate disambig page for "heroes" as opposed to "hero"? There are several articles with the "heroes" title, and the list on Hero (disambiguation) is getting rather long. --TorriTorri^{(Talk to me!)} 23:21, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Split the disambig pages and have links to each other.Aexia 23:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Not a viable solution. The plural form and singular form are fundamentally linked. Anyone who types in "heroes" could be looking for the "hero" article and/or other uses. Believe me, any options I've not offered aren't worth considering. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 20:15, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Based on what? While I now see the reasoning behind the redirect (and agree with you), you really shouldn't just dismiss people's suggestions out of hand like that. We're just trying to help. --TorriTorri^{(Talk to me!)} 23:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, because I disagree with the two of the options I've already offered, for starters. Tapping into the realm of possibilities—not reasonability ir common sense, though.—I could probably come up with several other options not considered. We could create a bare bones dab page of the three articles. (Hero (disambiguation), Hero and Heroes (TV series).) However, this would clearly be seen as preferencial treatment to the TV series. We could create a dab page with only the plural uses, plus the "Hero" and "Hero (disambiguation)" articles. Heck, we could redirect the page to heroine. Still, these wouldn't be within the bounds of common sense, viability or reasonabilty. Anyway, I don't mean to come off as arrogant or belittling. I know you were trying to help and I appreciate it. The fact that you came here at all and voiced opinions really helps out. (Maybe I need to make flyers or something...) Still, this little survey works best if we can all agree to one of the options given. Once that's done, I'll make a formal protection request and we can be done with this. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 00:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.