Talk:Herman Li
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Who's Tate?
[edit] what kind of guitar.
What type of guitar does Herman Li use and also what altercations does he use like jumbo frets, filed down frets, and others.
- He uses an Ibanez S Prestige, not sure on the exact model, but you can see it, and the details here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3jGFukH-Mo. Alas, I don't know if a youtube video is accepted as a proper source...
- This is a better answer to your question http://www.dragonforce.com/herman_li.php
[edit] Li struggles?
"Li often struggles to play his passages live."
Can we get some kind of proof, citation, or evidence of this? --K_R 16:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I second that, I was at a DragonForce show yesterday in NYC, Nokia Theater, and his live passages were nearly flawless (and I was watching and listening carefully the whole time DF was on, too).
- Ahem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xbMjRD_qaY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6IoAxx5ptc&mode=related&sear%20ch=
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- There are other videos, including the full one on Google, that show both of them botching solo after solo. Also carefully scrutinize the picture-in-picture closeups of them shredding in their videos; it's clear that it was recorded at a slower rate and sped up by the movement of their hair and clothes' fabric.
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- Ahh, the second link, you mean where he stops playing? Yup, botched that. First link? The harmonising does sound a tad off... Solo obviously isn't like the studio version, but I doubt any show would be just like the studio. But two videos doesn't mean often; I think it's rather redundant to say he has good and bad days like everybody else, especially if there's only two videos. What about every other show they've done? --Dayn 10:18, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Every video I've seen of them playing live has been appalling, the guys not in key with himselflet alone the rest of the band, and take a look at the "betcha can't play this" from guitar world on youtube, as one person commented, "it should be named 'betcha cant play this cos we cant either'"...
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- I think they were drunk then. I notice Sam Totman's page mentions how according to some people, it seems to affect their playing. --Dayn 14:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Still they do struggle to play regardless of why...
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- I've seen them live three times and two of those times their playing has been sub-par and the other time I can't remember.
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- I have been to several live shows, and I can tell you that he only struggles when he has consumed a substantial amount of alcohol
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[edit] Virtuoso?
I've been wondering; is Herman Li considered a virtuoso? Personally, I don't think so at all. Has he actually demonstrated his virtuosity of the guitar? What would be required to be a virtuoso and would he fit the bill?
Thoughts? --Dayn 07:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
While I'm at it, compare him to the likes of Satriani and Vai. All three can play fast; but can Li match them in terms of compositional ability, improvisation, and technical mastery? As much as I like his playing, I can't say he's a virtuoso, just good at playing fast and fun. --Dayn 07:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. There is no way that Li can match ranks with guys like Vai, Shawn Lane, Holdsworth, Satriani, Petrucci, Gilbert, etc - Wade
[edit] This is an encyclopedia
I spotted silly lines among the lines written for this article;
Herman Li is the best guitar player ever. --- Surely he is good, but... -_-'
God It is also known that Herman Li is the master of the universe, which explains his insane shredding skills and extreemly long hair. It is rumored by some of the worlds top theologians that Herman was sent on this Earth by the spirits of dead guitar Gods such as Randy Rhoads and Dimebag Darrell to end the plague of emo. Some even believe Herman Li is god. Even if he is not God, his powers are godlike and he is definitly divine in some way or another. --- Hahahaha...
[edit] COMPLEX HARMONIES?
All the harmony solos I've heard (which are a few) never deviate from thirds or octaves which are the most basic harmonies you can get, there are no polyphonic or contrapuntal textures in his solo either which ultimately means FAIL!!!
- I believe it means the solos themselves are complex with harmony, not implying the harmonising is complex.--Dayn 02:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Well whoever wrote the article should have used a comma, makes a huge difference... or maybe even used a more specific term--88.106.187.25 02:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree with the change to technical, makes more sense. --Dayn 08:48, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Trivia
I removed the trivia section, as all it has is "Herman Li is oriental." which is blatantly obvious, given that it says he was born in Hong Kong, and it has his picture there as well. If there was something trivia-wise, go for it and add it. --Dayn 04:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- See, and I here I was about to add "Has a devoted following of people that take every opportunity to mention Li is either Asian, Chinese, Oriental, or something other than Caucasian" :P T1g4h 14:24, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Report
Im doing a report on Herman Li. I need to know how many notes per second he can play. so if anyone can tell me just leave a post. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.35.241.181 (talk) 03:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC).
- It'll forever be unconfirmed; you'll have to ask him himself, but people can always improve, depending on what techniques they use. But, assuming he does 32nd note tapping at 200bpm...
- 4/4 time
- 200 beats per minute
- 4 beats = 1 semibrieve
- 200/4 = 50 semibrieves per minute
- 50 semibrieves * 4 = 200 crotchets per minute
- 200 crochets * 4 = 800 16ths per minute
- 800 16th * 2 = 1600 32nds per minute
- 1600/60 = 26.6~ notes per second, apparently.
- Of course, they hardly play that fast ALL the time; at best, he'd play around half that usually, since :tapping basically gets in double the amount of notes. --Dayn 03:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Guitar Tricks
Could someone explain what a "drum riser spin bounce" and a "whammy bar lift guitar slam" are? VikingofRock 01:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- I went to a DragonForce show today (on tour with He is Legend, Chimaira, KsE). A move that Herman kept doing that appears to be a "whammy bar lift guitar slam" is lifting the guitar up so that its front is parallel to the floor while hitting a pinch-harmonic and lifting up the whammy bar at the same time. You can see Herman do it at the 1:05 mark of the video that was posted above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xbMjRD_qaY Sean 07:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
UNIX HELP DESK? I doubt it....someone erase that joke
[edit] "In addition to liking men, Li has given guitar clinics multiple sperm samples and now has over 100 children, demonstrating and teaching several self-developed techniques."
WTF? I'm removing this. Sion 23:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
